Peace and security - Then what?

[Medi-tator]

when it comes to those whom demonstrably push back hard on Robert and his interpretations/teachings... I get a little protective. Not for the purpose of equating him to one that should never be upheld w/out question and/or constructive critique as the GB are outwardly held by active JW's. (I for one personally know he at times can be like dry toast. But made from great high quality bread tho). But because I've known him so long and recognize he has a unique insight and has no desire for a "following". So we all here are complicit in being here understanding his viewpoints/teachings synergizes well with us and just frankly, make sense. To the point where it seems undeniable he has been used by God for a purpose as a tool for the humble purpose to help maintain the faith of a few who are intensely seeking.

Really well stated Brother Jehu!! I will give Driven a well deserved holy hug as suggested LOL.

 

[goldie]

I don’t know anything about w_stone but White Stone is a honest truth seeker. I’m sure we all seem absurd to each at one time or another. But I hope that White Stone is not discouraged from expressing his honest questions. After all it takes investigation of different thoughts to truly seek something.

Driven, you are a very kind sweet person.

 

[kenmuldoon55]

Hey now if it’s Chanel I’ll take it! Always wanted it but have never had it.

And Gulp 😳 if there is a plus to the guillotines At least it’s quick.

(Btw…That’s a joke about Chanel. Never had it bc I never cared about it).

Remember reading long ago about a scientist fellow who during the Middle Ages period was sentenced to death be guillotine,
Being the ever inquisitive researcher that he was, he set out to use his own death as a post humus experiment to reveal whether a persons head was still conscious for a while after it was severed.
He told his assistant, who was to be present at the execution to watch his eyes and see how many times they would blink after the beheading as he would attempt to blink as many times as possible.
The assistant was able to count 13 blinks.
Of course those faithful to Jehovah ,if subjected to that same fate, won’t even get to the first blink as they’ll be transitioned to glory in the twinkling of an eye.

 

[TheJehuChariot]

Remember reading long ago about a scientist fellow who during the Middle Ages period was sentenced to death be guillotine,
Being the ever inquisitive researcher that he was, he set out to use his own death as a post humus experiment to reveal whether a persons head was still conscious for a while after it was severed.
He told his assistant, who was to be present at the execution to watch his eyes and see how many times they would blink after the beheading as he would attempt to blink as many times as possible.
The assistant was able to count 13 blinks.

I've heard this story too. Gives me weird chills when I think of it. Hope the Devil isn't reading this. Lol

 

[Patricia]

Driven, you are a very kind sweet person.

Agreed and smart too

 

[w_stone]

Time will tell if The call of Peace and Security comes from The nations ( United Nation) Oh they will have some Big announcement That they have achieved some kind of Peace and Security.Like anyone would think there right.Ok destruction come upon them ( Somekind of nuclear destruction) Ok so millions of people die.How is Jah name sanctificated by his.How are the Two Wintesses in involved in this? Ok I'll stop there?

 

[Jess]

Remember reading long ago about a scientist fellow who during the Middle Ages period was sentenced to death be guillotine,
Being the ever inquisitive researcher that he was, he set out to use his own death as a post humus experiment to reveal whether a persons head was still conscious for a while after it was severed.
He told his assistant, who was to be present at the execution to watch his eyes and see how many times they would blink after the beheading as he would attempt to blink as many times as possible.
The assistant was able to count 13 blinks.
Of course those faithful to Jehovah ,if subjected to that same fate, won’t even get to the first blink as they’ll be transitioned to glory in the twinkling of an eye.

Oh my. Double gulp 😳 and 🙏🏼

 

[PJ54]

Time will tell if The call of Peace and Security comes from The nations ( United Nation) Oh they will have some Big announcement That they have achieved some kind of Peace and Security.Like anyone would think there right.Ok destruction come upon them ( Somekind of nuclear destruction) Ok so millions of people die.How is Jah name sanctificated by his.How are the Two Wintesses in involved in this? Ok I'll stop there?

Sometimes prophecy doesn't make much sense until it is fulfilled & then the understanding comes. So in this regard let's keep on the watch & see how things will unfold.

 

[w_stone]

Yes let not shoot the message.We are told not to despise prophecy .Jah works with strange and usually works.Strange messages.Peace and Security to all of goodwill.

 

[SpicySpice]

Rev 20:4

Berean Standard Bible
Then I saw the thrones, and those seated on them had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image, and had not received its mark on their foreheads or hands. And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years


Contemporary English Version
I saw thrones, and sitting on those thrones were the ones who had been given the right to judge. I also saw the souls of the people who had their heads cut off because they had told about Jesus and preached God's message. They were the same ones who had not worshiped the beast or the idol, and they had refused to let its mark be put on their foreheads or hands. They will come to life and rule with Christ for 1,000 years.

With all this talk about the beheading it's kind of interesting that so many nations talk about guillotines especially in freemasonry

Here's a recent design from Chanel

I have seen the chanel guillotine....I wonder...does it smell like Coco Mademoiselle or No 5?
Well at least they'll kill us with a designer guillotine how fancy! Imagine us, not living in, but dying in the lap of luxury!

 

[Watchman]

The February 2023 Watchtower has an article entitled Keep Your Senses Be Watchful. The 5th paragraph states:

When discussing Bible prophecy, however, we should avoid speculating. Why? Because we would not want to say anything that could cause disunity in the congregation. For instance, we may hear world leaders talk about how they can solve a particular conflict and bring peace and security. Instead of speculating that such a statement fulfills the prophecy at 1 Thessalonians 5:3, we need to keep up-to-date with the latest published information. When we base our discussions on material published by Jehovah’s organization, we help the congregation to remain united “in the same line of thought.”

It appears that the WT is doing some preemptive suppression of the truth that appears to be aimed at me; ironically, all in the name of being watchful. The WT will never admit that the fulfillment of their saying "peace and security" is the beginning of the end and not Armageddon. In their fantasy, they apparently imagine that they will be able to control what JW's think when prophecy is fulfilled before our eyes. For the Watchtower being united in falsehood is better than knowing the truth.

 

[w_stone]

Who are the "They" in 2 Thessalians. From the Scpricture.Rev11:6 "They "have the authority to strike the earth.The "They "here our the Two Witnesses. They are the ones like John the Baptist (Eljah) who are the forerunners of the announcement of the coming of the the Christ. They proclaim the message of Peace (a announcement from the Prince of Peace)and Security.Why Security too, because the Devil has come to the earth having great anger. UNLESS those day were cut short no flesh would survive. Those day will be cut short because of the message of Peace and Security proclaimed by the 2 witnesses.This will gather the great crowd.And Divide the Goat from Sheep.Peace and Security my Brothers and Sisters.

 

[BARNABY THE DOG.]

The February 2023 Watchtower has an article entitled Keep Your Senses Be Watchful. The 5th paragraph states:

It appears that the WT is doing some preemptive suppression of the truth that appears to be aimed at me; ironically, all in the name of being watchful. The WT will never admit that the fulfillment of their saying "peace and security" is the beginning of the end and not Armageddon. In their fantasy, they apparently imagine that they will be able to control what JW's think when prophecy is fulfilled before our eyes. For the Watchtower being united in falsehood is better than knowing the truth.

So announcing 1975 as the end of this system a good ten or more years before hand and trumpeting it practically every month etc etc, does not come under the term “speculation”? Watchtower have exhausted every thesaurus ever compiled and now have no option other than to create their own dictionary. Here is an example; Soliciting. Verb. The act of indirectly procuring money in every way known to man without actually asking for it out right. There is only one other profession well versed in that technique and they get a mention in the bible too - riding a dragon I believe. Who has been teaching who I wonder.

 

[Watchman]

Who are the "They" in 2 Thessalians. From the Scpricture.Rev11:6 "They "have the authority to strike the earth.The "They "here our the Two Witnesses. They are the ones like John the Baptist (Eljah) who are the forerunners of the announcement of the coming of the the Christ. They proclaim the message of Peace (a announcement from the Prince of Peace)and Security.Why Security too, because the Devil has come to the earth having great anger. UNLESS those day were cut short no flesh would survive. Those day will be cut short because of the message of Peace and Security proclaimed by the 2 witnesses.This will gather the great crowd.And Divide the Goat from Sheep.Peace and Security my Brothers and Sisters.

You are clueless

 

[w_stone]

No scripture ? Please stop .

 

[Back to True Worship]

Jw's have a very poor understanding of the mark of the beast

It's stunned me how they discount the jabs immediately with very little reasoning that something that was introduced into our society that prevented people from buying and selling things.. .That did not receive the jab

The mark of beast will be apart system of things and gbs will encourage its people to take it.... Most likely using video and GB updates

Because if they don't they will surely lose their 501c3
Is something they will definitely not want to give up

The society will need to encourage the receiving of the mark in order to save their finances within this system of things

They will come up with every form of manipulation to ensure that its members receive it

with regard to their 501c-3 standing there was a book entitled " the committee of 300" that reveals that any religion with this classification of tax relief is part of the global elites . Where that is true remains to be seen but with the GB following the dictates of the global elites it may indicate this to be true.

 

[Back to True Worship]

I agree but it also is more then just a metaphorical heart condition




I have been in business for a long time now and never once have I ever asked one of my clients what religion they are, what God they worship, or What their opinion is on world conditions Or if they complied with some mandate of the government

I always take their money because they have it and I have provided a service for them to receive it at an agreed price

For me as a business to integrate the thought that I have to approve of something that they did personally in order to sell them something

They would literally need a physical sign of approval of whatever the government regulated/mandated

Example: vaccine passport Which many received automatically once they complied with the Government mandates - Which allowed them not to lose their jobs eating restaurants purchase certain things and go on vacations and go on an airplane

All while forcing businesses to verify that these individuals who are about to make a purchase received the jab


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On another note all of this would have to take place during a time when the economy was good and people were actually still "buying and selling things"

During World War 3, and the coming famine, I'm not sure if all these things will be "Buying and selling" will still be taking place


This is the time of the end prophecy is happening all around us please do not discount anything

"my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6

I love to read everyone's comments here , it is very interesting to see how many of us are really being alert to who, how and what is going to be part of the scriptures fulfillment.
I have really struggled with the jabs just being a medical procedure without being pegged into the mark of the beast. However , if I may add my two cents , I wonder if it is not the mark but a way in which they are conditioning or even advancing peoples thinking and actions to accept the mark of the beast. Worshippers of Jehovah God are very alert and keen to the tactics of the devil, and an outright attack often fails even in the face of death. But the devil knows that subtlety is the best offence, as it is very unsuspecting. The Jab is not over either and it could very well turn out to be the mark, as we know many more will come, and the purpose of them is depopulation and it is working. Many will assume or be told that the unvaccinated are the ones causing the rising death rate, which will cause many to turn on and maybe even have a hand in killing them, we shall see, making them like Cain. But one thing is certain, this is and has been reported as a transhuman agenda, changing us from free will creatures to non free will animals as has been stated. Thus having our being made in the likeness of God away, being a controlled animal, unreasoning , and incapable of worshipping God with love, in fact making persons ...anti God and Antichrist. What will follow will be an outright act of disobedience and irreverence to God, a Satanic ritual worship will no doubt follow. Perhaps Halloween will be the date of the worship of the beast as Satans instrument for his rulership. I would not be surprised if what is to follow will be very much like the demand to worship Nebuchadnezzars image on the plains of Durham.

It is noteworthy that many that are anti-vaccination , but are not doing so out of concern for worship of Jehovah God , but for health and freedom reasons, political and medical freedoms. They have no desire to change any immoral or improper lifestyle to match Gods requirements or exclusive devotion to our God Jehovah, which is what Revelation seems to indicate that this is the reason why they are approved and written in the book of life....only True Christians both of the Chosen anointed and the great crowd of other sheep. However we do not know how many will be alive , who took and will continue to take the jab, when the final judgment of God is done and names are written in the book of life.

 

[Watchman]

No scripture ? Please stop .

Post this nonsense again and you'll be done here

 

[Back to True Worship]

Also Jesus words concerning the ride of the horsemen , we cannot assume that the pestilences here are of natural cause but as we have seen of manmade origin which causes so much death: War , extreme inflation , famine and death by disease....are the riders after Jesus is riding as conquering king. All proceed the mark of the beast.

 

[Back to True Worship]

Been thinking. As you know, it is near impossible to reason with Jehovah’s Witnesses. If the GB says it, then it is true. That’s the end of the matter. Yet, at some point, the residents of the modern “Jerusalem” will have to make a life-and-death decision. Jesus was quite clear about it and gave very explicit instructions: “Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken about by Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place (let the reader use discernment), then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains. Let the man on the housetop not come down to take the goods out of his house, and let the man in the field not return to pick up his outer garment.”

It remains to be seen what form the disgusting thing will take. However, it is becoming evident that the leadership of the WT has cut a deal with the Devil in regard to the vaccine. Still, most JWs, even if they chafe at the intrusion of the WT into their personal health decisions are inclined to endure it so as to be loyal to Jehovah. So, it will take something more impacting, something undeniable—unequivocal, to serve as the signal to flee to the mountains.

I have explored the topic of peace and security in a number of videos and articles on e-watchman. It seems most probable to me that whenever it is they are saying peace and security will come about when world leaders imagine that they have averted nuclear disaster. The visitation of “sudden destruction” will be the upheaval that brings about the great tribulation. At present, JWs are under a powerful delusion, imagining that the great tribulation will involve the destruction of Babylon the Great. If their saying “peace and security” is quite pronounced and obvious to all and yet the WT does not acknowledge it, then the sons of light and sons of day will see the light, so to speak. They will not need anyone to tell them the WT is the antichrist then, it will be open and obvious.

I have often wondered on this proclamation of Peace and Security, just who is saying it and what is its meaning. I would like to inject a reference given in the Reference Bilble of the New World Translation. In the scripture of 1 Thessalonians 5:3 the reference to they is "d" and takes us to Jeremiah 8:9. here is the connection that the WT places to they. As we know the GB says that unfaithful Jerusalem refers to Christendom and as such the nations of Christendom are the sayers of "peace and security" . And verse 11 identifies them as Jerusalem...of course you and many others of us recognize that unfaithful Jerusalem is the organization headed by the FS and GB .
Thus the ones calling "peace and security " would be the organization, and the peace and security would be their false claim to having this peaceful and secure relationship with Jehovah which would very much cause many to put trust in the organization. But the sudden destruction is caused not by Jehovah but by the ten horns and the wild beast as they devour any who claim to be christian at all. Will this be the start of the attack on the unfaithful organization of Jehovah's worshippers , which would lead to the dismantling and scattering of Gods people .


what do you think? Anyone?