Stepping down as an elder

Citrine

Well-known member
Letter submitted, meeting with 2 other elders tonight. Actually really excited.
SH
This should be interesting! I’m sure you know what to avoid saying but at some point the question will probably come up if you still feel Jehovah is directing the organization. That’s definitely a trap to take things further. As an update my husband avoided all discussions with the elders after he submitted his letter in November. Last week after many requests to meet he texted several of them back saying after the December letter from the org about all schools require the vx his decision was reinforced and there was no need to talk. They finally announced he was no longer an elder this week. It’s over and he’s relieved. Please update us how it goes with them!
 

Liz

Active member
Good afternoon,
As we enter 2023, I have made the decision to step down as an elder here in New York, upstate.

The last 3 years have opened my eyes, with the nail in the coffin being the "vaccine is a gift of Jehovah" and "land of the living" lie. We all know this experimental gene therapy is poison and part of something much more evil. (at best, money; at worst, satanic depopulation) To hear the GB push it told us that they are not speaking to Jehovah.

At first(summer 2020), my wife and I said that they just probably get their info from CNN and the CDC, which we all know are corrupt. They are just naive and dont know any better. But then it became apparent, that they DO know. All those "covid deaths" reported in the broadcasts were fear mongering lies.

They also went from "Zoom is an amazing privilege" to "elders, dont use zoom anymore" because the scamdemic is now "over".

Our field service groups now consist of people driving around to RVs who dont answer for hours or sitting at a cart with zero visitors. Doesnt feel right at all.

To tell pure bloods to essentially not reach out is disgusting and wrong. To even ask your vaccine staus is criminal. The brothers in our hall are good men, but they are all rule followers. They enjoy the title/status and will not go against anything from "mother." (Cringed typing that)
95% of the congregation is jabbed up and beyond reason.

Sorry for the rant. Here is my question:

For those with experience, what is the best way to word the resignation? I dont want to be talked out of it and also dont want to cause divisions.
I KNOW that we have the truth on the vaccines as we spent years researching. But all of our best friends/family are JWs and wish not to cause conflict.

SH
Please consider these various scriptures I tell myself regarding the unChristian behaviour of the GB (Governing Body) regarding the covid19 vaccines -
Matthew 13:24-30 - the parable of the weeds growing the wheat till the harvest, then the weeds and wheat are separated, then the weeds are burnt. 1 Corinthians 3.16,17 - we are God's temple and hence we need to look after our body. If we do not look after our body God will destroy us. There are other scriptures that support my feelings on JWs not taking the vaccine.
The GB are showing themselves up ie it appears that maybe they are not praying and do not have faith that Jehovah will look after them if they defended and supported us in court. If they did have faith they would have told us not to take the covid19 vaccines. The GB cannot claim that since they have no medical training that it is not their role to support their flock in not taking the covid19 vaccine when they have done an excellent job on the blood issue. Jehovah's Witnesses are famous for not taking blood under any circumstances, even though most Jehovah's Witnesses have no university medical training as the GB frequently tell us not to go to university. The GB have the legal expertise and resources to defend us in court and they have had prior experience in defending their flock with the flag salute and not joining army issues. So the GB have no excuse to not defend us!!!
 

Liz

Active member
Please consider these various scriptures I tell myself regarding the unChristian behaviour of the GB (Governing Body) regarding the covid19 vaccines -
Matthew 13:24-30 - the parable of the weeds growing the wheat till the harvest, then the weeds and wheat are separated, then the weeds are burnt. 1 Corinthians 3.16,17 - we are God's temple and hence we need to look after our body. If we do not look after our body God will destroy us. There are other scriptures that support my feelings on JWs not taking the vaccine.
The GB are showing themselves up ie it appears that maybe they are not praying and do not have faith that Jehovah will look after them if they defended and supported us in court. If they did have faith they would have told us not to take the covid19 vaccines. The GB cannot claim that since they have no medical training that it is not their role to support their flock in not taking the covid19 vaccine when they have done an excellent job on the blood issue. Jehovah's Witnesses are famous for not taking blood under any circumstances, even though most Jehovah's Witnesses have no university medical training as the GB frequently tell us not to go to university. The GB have the legal expertise and resources to defend us in court and they have had prior experience in defending their flock with the flag salute and not joining army issues. So the GB have no excuse to not defend us!!!
I have been dealing another major issue since late 2011 where I needed the support of my local elders, but I got the opposite!!! This major issue has not yet been finished, but I have not left Jehovah or his organisation as he has let know that it is the wheat and weeds growing together till the harvest and other scriptures to tame my anger at the local elders and GB. Many other JWs in my situation leave the organisation as they are too hurt and disgusted with the GB polices and all the elders do exactly what the GB tell them. It would not help me or my major issue that is not yet finished to leave the Jehovah's Witness organisation, so I grumble to myself about the various problems I am dealing with as a result of the GB not doing their job properly. I also do PRAY especially when I need Jehovah's help, but my prayers do not alleviate the GB from doing their job properly.
Know that there are Jehovah's Witnesses not happy with the GB policies and procedures, but are grumbling like me and praying. :)
 

mts

Well-known member
Hi @Liz are you new to the forum? Didn't see any introduction for you in that thread. Anyway, can totally empathize with your situation. It is unfortunate that many elders (generalizing) don't measure their words or reflect on how they can hurt more than motivate or encourage. You are not alone by no means. Perhaps if you would like support, feedback, advice or comments on how best to handle your major issue, etc. perhaps create a new Thread to create discussion? Psalms 119:165, applied generally, focuses in on us continuing to love Jah and follow/live by his laws, wherever you are. In that respect, no one can be stumbled by the actions of another as we don't serve man/men, but yet only the father, Jehovah.
 

BillyRay

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I have been dealing another major issue since late 2011 where I needed the support of my local elders, but I got the opposite!!! This major issue has not yet been finished, but I have not left Jehovah or his organisation as he has let know that it is the wheat and weeds growing together till the harvest and other scriptures to tame my anger at the local elders and GB. Many other JWs in my situation leave the organisation as they are too hurt and disgusted with the GB polices and all the elders do exactly what the GB tell them. It would not help me or my major issue that is not yet finished to leave the Jehovah's Witness organisation, so I grumble to myself about the various problems I am dealing with as a result of the GB not doing their job properly. I also do PRAY especially when I need Jehovah's help, but my prayers do not alleviate the GB from doing their job properly.
Know that there are Jehovah's Witnesses not happy with the GB policies and procedures, but are grumbling like me and praying. :)
Hello Liz. Welcome.
 
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KevinB

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Sutter home, a good and convincing point to get across to others is to say baptism means our dedication to Jehovah, not a vaccine. And if privileges are withheld because they are following their far leftist NY politicians orders because they are listening to the superior authorities. They are wrong. The superior authority of the United States of America is the U.S. constitution, not some corrupt politician that took vaccine company bribe money for enforcing rules and regulations. And the vaccines affect your body and your blood. It's not a blood transfusion but it's genetically modified material entering your bloodstream, which is supposed to be kept sacred. So you feel like you have to step down in good conscious which makes sense as they're really pushing it hard in areas with much enforcement with that corrupt witch Kathy Hochel. Imagine taking orders from that witch and saying it's aligned with Jehovah's way. And for the Canadian brothers and sisters seeing much COVID enforcement from Justin Trudeau government. A guy who sides with woke politics than anything Godly or Christian. Imagine listening to those enemies of God. It would bother my conscience too but I'm in Florida and we have someone who has undone the COVID madness. I don't think the GB cares about his so called superior authority even though he doesn't have that power anyways as the U.S. constitution supersedes their authority as governor's of the state.

Because most JW's don't pay attention to politics is the reason why so many will die because of lack of knowledge. As I'm seeing a lot of deaths happening sadly from the brothers and sisters who were coerced into getting vaccinated, believing in the false premise of loving their neighbors. What they don't realize is that evil takes advantage of good hearted people by making them believe they are doing something good. Much like how Satan convinced Eve she would be doing something good if she ate from the fruit. I see the vaccination propaganda in the same light.
"Much like how Satan convinced Eve she would be doing something good if she ate from the fruit. I see the vaccination propaganda in the same light" - That's an excellent point, it was also a point of no return. The GB really messed up will they ever recover? The Watchtower is done and done
 
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KevinB

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I know this is not going to be a popular nor widely accepted method of exit... but if I were you and in your position of relative authority, I would go out with a bang... if you still have speaking privileges, I would wait til your next assigned talk and write two talks, submit one on the topic you are given for review and give another talk full of useful information on the vaccines to the congregation. That way you would not just be getting yourself out quietly but you would have a chance to rouse some other sheep to perhaps follow your lead. Jehovah’s people are being misled and strongly deluded by the GB who appear to be under Satan’s control and influence. If you do choose to go this route, please video record it and share it with the world. The GB wants nothing more than to silence people like us and you make their job very easy when you just submit a letter and slink off in the dark, leaving the rest of your congregation in the dark as well.
I know it is an extreme way to go out but if we keep dropping out silently without a fight then Satan wins on a technicality. Recall how bold Jesus was when he went and spoke to the congregations in the synagogues, often in direct opposition to the Pharisees and their mind control slave grip they had over Jehovah’s people.
Agreed! Although, that makes for sweaty palms syndrome, but it's better than "sudden death syndrome". I think of the work of the two witnesses The message: "Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues” (Re 18:4)
 

DoubleThink333

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Agreed! Although, that makes for sweaty palms syndrome, but it's better than "sudden death syndrome". I think of the work of the two witnesses The message: "Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues” (Re 18:4)
YES! It’s not going to be a comfortable and happy message to deliver but I believe someday soon, Jehovah will give someone currently in a position of power in the JW org the courage and more importantly the words to speak so that Jehovah’s people will listen and take heed.
That scripture you cited is exactly the one that put a fire and urgency in me to get out of the JW.org religion when I did, just a few months ago...
 
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KevinB

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Uggh, I was going to say you would lose freeness of speech and then I saw Robert said that as your first answer. It's maddening but I think there are more reasons to stay than to go. I was just at two LDC projects with different groups of people. Nice time, I can see the benefit of this organization and how everyone was getting along and accomplishing things. Everyone super PIMI but almost no masks, even though its in the guidance that its not optional on the LDC sites indoors. Yay for them, all of them collectively not being rigid about it even though the directions are. If people like you leave positions of authority what fills the void?
Not to be a jerk, but I'm going to kindly disagree. What is the job of the two witnesses? Is their message directed only to Christendom or does it include JW's. What about the message “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues". Who is that message directed against, just Christendom or JW's also? (Re 18:4) I'm guessing you get were I'm going with this.

Personally I believe when they identified themselves as the "faithful slave" back in 2012 that was the straw that broke the camel's back, or Jehovah's last straw, because they took Christ's place "over" his congregation, apparently by a direct appointment from Christ. A HUGE LIE. They began to disfellowship any anointed who called them out on it. So it was a PURGE. They put the power to say who's anointed into their own hands and wrestled it from God. The vaccination mandates seems to be a symptom of this big lie, and this situation reveals to spiritually astute people that the GB, the org and the Corporation have lost God's spirit. Now they are killing people physically by enforcing VAX mandates. Faithful slave? Right!

My point is this, the longer people stay in the more danger they face, both spiritually and physically. Besides the WT corporation is done, it's done like dinner, because corporations must obey the laws of the land. Does it seem like their willing to abandon the corp. to remain faithful to Jah? Nope! They proved that in 2012 when they identified themselves as the faithful slave to cuddle up to this world. But what you do see happening is real spiritual people who love Jehovah and the truth leaving and separating themselves from the org. What is Jehovah telling us when we see this happening more frequently? They are trying to protect their spirituality and relationship with Jah.

Also if people leave in droves then there is hope that maybe this will shock the remaining brothers and they may repent and see a need to set matters straight. If people leave they can always go back if things are set straight and reorganized around the truth. That is better than being involve in a conspiracy against Jehovah that is literally and spiritually being used to fight against those who love God and the truth. However logic dictates the Watchtower corporation will never recover.

To me the two witnesses and the message to get out of her my people serve as instructions for those who wake up to this situation.
 

DoubleThink333

Well-known member
Not to be a jerk, but I'm going to kindly disagree. What is the job of the two witnesses? Is their message directed only to Christendom or does it include JW's. What about the message “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues". Who is that message directed against, just Christendom or JW's also? (Re 18:4) I'm guessing you get were I'm going with this.

Personally I believe when they identified themselves as the "faithful slave" back in 2012 that was the straw that broke the camel's back, or Jehovah's last straw, because they took Christ's place "over" his congregation, apparently by a direct appointment from Christ. A HUGE LIE. They began to disfellowship any anointed who called them out on it. So it was a PURGE. They put the power to say who's anointed into their own hands and wrestled it from God. The vaccination mandates seems to be a symptom of this big lie, and this situation reveals to spiritually astute people that the GB, the org and the Corporation have lost God's spirit. Now they are killing people physically by enforcing VAX mandates. Faithful slave? Right!

My point is this, the longer people stay in the more danger they face, both spiritually and physically. Besides the WT corporation is done, it's done like dinner, because corporations must obey the laws of the land. Does it seem like their willing to abandon the corp. to remain faithful to Jah? Nope! They proved that in 2012 when they identified themselves as the faithful slave to cuddle up to this world. But what you do see happening is real spiritual people who love Jehovah and the truth leaving and separating themselves from the org. What is Jehovah telling us when we see this happening more frequently? They are trying to protect their spirituality and relationship with Jah.

Also if people leave in droves then there is hope that maybe this will shock the remaining brothers and they may repent and see a need to set matters straight. If people leave they can always go back if things are set straight and reorganized around the truth. That is better than being involve in a conspiracy against Jehovah that is literally and spiritually being used to fight against those who love God and the truth. However logic dictates the Watchtower corporation will never recover.

To me the two witnesses and the message to get out of her my people serve as instructions for those who wake up to this situation.
I agree with you 100% continuing to stay in a corrupt religious organization is dangerous to your physical and spiritual health. It would take a very strong personality and spirit to endure the ungodliness which permeates that organization and be able to maintain individual integrity to Jehovah and Jesus. I don’t think it is right to encourage those sheep who have been bruised and beaten to continue to stay with their abusive and callous shepherd. HOWEVER, I do see the other side f this argument as valid in SOME VERY SPECIAL CASES. If there is such a mentally and spiritually strong individual who could endure to the end, to be there as a “trusted” brother or sister to those bruised and battered sheep, essentially suffering from Stockholm syndrome, if and when they ever realize the true nature of their abusers it would be beneficial to them to have someone that even their abusers still consider a trustworthy individual, in order to lead more away from the evil slave. But the amount of people who could actually withstand such torment would be very few indeed! Perhaps that is why the Bible only speaks of TWO witnesses (LoL joking!) because two is not a lot of people and I don’t think a lot of people will have the ability to stay in the false religion. But if they can, they may be of help to others as more and more wake up and need help to move out....
 

A B

Well-known member
Not to be a jerk, but I'm going to kindly disagree. What is the job of the two witnesses? Is their message directed only to Christendom or does it include JW's. What about the message “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues". Who is that message directed against, just Christendom or JW's also? (Re 18:4) I'm guessing you get were I'm going with this.

Personally I believe when they identified themselves as the "faithful slave" back in 2012 that was the straw that broke the camel's back, or Jehovah's last straw, because they took Christ's place "over" his congregation, apparently by a direct appointment from Christ. A HUGE LIE. They began to disfellowship any anointed who called them out on it. So it was a PURGE. They put the power to say who's anointed into their own hands and wrestled it from God. The vaccination mandates seems to be a symptom of this big lie, and this situation reveals to spiritually astute people that the GB, the org and the Corporation have lost God's spirit. Now they are killing people physically by enforcing VAX mandates. Faithful slave? Right!

My point is this, the longer people stay in the more danger they face, both spiritually and physically. Besides the WT corporation is done, it's done like dinner, because corporations must obey the laws of the land. Does it seem like their willing to abandon the corp. to remain faithful to Jah? Nope! They proved that in 2012 when they identified themselves as the faithful slave to cuddle up to this world. But what you do see happening is real spiritual people who love Jehovah and the truth leaving and separating themselves from the org. What is Jehovah telling us when we see this happening more frequently? They are trying to protect their spirituality and relationship with Jah.

Also if people leave in droves then there is hope that maybe this will shock the remaining brothers and they may repent and see a need to set matters straight. If people leave they can always go back if things are set straight and reorganized around the truth. That is better than being involve in a conspiracy against Jehovah that is literally and spiritually being used to fight against those who love God and the truth. However logic dictates the Watchtower corporation will never recover.

To me the two witnesses and the message to get out of her my people serve as instructions for those who wake up to this situation.
I don't think you are being a jerk. I understand why you are saying what you are saying. I have a slightly different take on some of it. I believe when we reason on Jesus' words at Luke 12:41 & 42 it is very evident that the appointment to distribute food is rooted in the first century and comparing subsequent verses and also Matt 24, whoever is found faithful to that assignment will be appointed over all the belongings at Jesus' future coming. I do not believe the Bible supports a third appointment of a title of faithful and discreet before they are actually found faithful and discrete at Jesus coming.

But within that context, the change in 2012 was rooted in protecting an older anointed sister in Australia who was named as a defendant in a law suit because she was part of the 'faithful and discrete slave'. The change was announced in court testimony that was put forth (of the new understanding) to get her excused from the suit before it was published in the literature, that is how I know the change was made to protect her. And in reality, it didn't really change much or any of the way business was conducted.

To me the overreach was to say 'faithful and discrete' prematurely regardless of who is or isn't supposedly filling that role. I don't understand how or why you think the change in 2012 was to cuddle up to this world. ??

For the record, I cringed when they said, "What does Jehovah know" about the vaccines. They have admitted that they are not infallible on organizational or doctrinal matters yet for some reason Jehovah is going to step in and not let them get this wrong? I do not understand this but that is far as I go in my mind right now but I am paying attention.
 
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KevinB

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I don't think you are being a jerk. I understand why you are saying what you are saying. I have a slightly different take on some of it. I believe when we reason on Jesus' words at Luke 12:41 & 42 it is very evident that the appointment to distribute food is rooted in the first century and comparing subsequent verses and also Matt 24, whoever is found faithful to that assignment will be appointed over all the belongings at Jesus' future coming. I do not believe the Bible supports a third appointment of a title of faithful and discreet before they are actually found faithful and discrete at Jesus coming.

But within that context, the change in 2012 was rooted in protecting an older anointed sister in Australia who was named as a defendant in a law suit because she was part of the 'faithful and discrete slave'. The change was announced in court testimony that was put forth (of the new understanding) to get her excused from the suit before it was published in the literature, that is how I know the change was made to protect her. And in reality, it didn't really change much or any of the way business was conducted.

To me the overreach was to say 'faithful and discrete' prematurely regardless of who is or isn't supposedly filling that role. I don't understand how or why you think the change in 2012 was to cuddle up to this world. ??

For the record, I cringed when they said, "What does Jehovah know" about the vaccines. They have admitted that they are not infallible on organizational or doctrinal matters yet for some reason Jehovah is going to step in and not let them get this wrong? I do not understand this but that is far as I go in my mind right now but I am paying attention.
I get what your saying. Have your read https://mybelovedreligion.no/

I tossed it a bit and he also makes some good points. Worth considering another perspective. He was quite prominent and disfellowship couple years ago because he said the GB had become authoritarian. He does a deep linguistic dive in MT 24 Luke 12 about the faithful slave. Made me think outside of the box.

Just something else to consider I guess.
 

mts

Well-known member
Yes and he is also the 'researchers' mentioned in the 11/1/11 Watchtower p.25 that said all 13 sets of lunar observations on VAT4956 support 607. (They don't and anyone can verify this.)

Jesus taught clearly, the slave that is faithful and discreet is identified at his coming.
Yeah, Rolf Furuli in that site also mentions why we should not trust/accept the shifting views of the GB. Makes strong arguments as to why, which only compounds on many of the things @Watchman has highlighted in his writings and videos. The lunar observations article reference is linked here. Yeah, does conclude that 607 B.C.E. is the date of Jerusalem's destruction, which would be the starting date of the gentile times... and used to arrive at the 1914 calculation. I'll leave it at that...🤷‍♂️
 

Liz

Active member
This should be interesting! I’m sure you know what to avoid saying but at some point the question will probably come up if you still feel Jehovah is directing the organization. That’s definitely a trap to take things further. As an update my husband avoided all discussions with the elders after he submitted his letter in November. Last week after many requests to meet he texted several of them back saying after the December letter from the org about all schools require the vx his decision was reinforced and there was no need to talk. They finally announced he was no longer an elder this week. It’s over and he’s relieved. Please update us how it goes with them!
Your husband is the only elder that I know of that refused to have the covid-19 "vaccine". Your husband has more guts and brains than all the elders in my local area. All the elders in my local area have taken the covid-19 "vaccine". I do not yet know of any JWs in my city that have had died from the covid-19 "vaccine", even though there are few JWs that have mild side affects like cold or flu like symptoms. One elder and his wife frequently get cold or flus months after his covid-19 vaccination. The wife refused to get the covid-19 "vaccine", but her husband got the covid-19 "vaccine". The wife has not yet connected the dots and realised that their cold and flus are possibly from the covid-19 "vaccine" :eek: .
I refused to have the covid-19 "vaccine", as it has and is still causing death and injury. Sometimes the covid-19 "vaccine" injuries are permanent and the person with these injuries cannot hold their job, but they were forced to get the covid-19 "vaccine" to keep their job😭. Not taking the covid-19 "vaccine" caused me alot of stress last year when I had to get work that required me to get the covid-19 "vaccine". I will not take the covid-19 "vaccine", as Jehovah has let me know not to take the covid-19 "vaccine", as it is the same category as smoking. ie it is bad for your health and hence you should not take the covid-19 "vaccine" into your body. 1 Corinthians 3.16,17 - we are God's temple and hence we need to look after our body. If we do not look after our body God will destroy us. There are other scriptures that support my feelings on JWs not taking the vaccine.
The GB will have to answer for not taking care of their flock when we needed them:eek:.
 

Liz

Active member
Agreed! Although, that makes for sweaty palms syndrome, but it's better than "sudden death syndrome". I think of the work of the two witnesses The message: "Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues” (Re 18:4)
I have tried to talk to a few JWs in my local area regarding the covid-19 "vaccines" not being safe for us and the GB should not be telling anyone or even suggesting to take this medical injections/"vaccines". All the JWs I spoke to regarding the covid-19 "vaccines" totally refused to consider what I was trying to tell them. This is exactly like trying to tell people who are not JWs that there is no hell, and no trinity etc!!! It also has shown that most JWs are sheep and do what ever the GB tell them to without doing any research for themselves if what the GB tells to is correct. For along time the GB have told us do your own research using the Bible and other tools and make your own decisions if this is a correct option for you. But with the covid-19 "vaccines" the GB did not force us to take the covid-19 "vaccines", but they definitely tried to encourage us take the covid-19 "vaccines", by their multiple videos on jw.org talking about the benefits of these "vaccines":eek:. It is their job to take care of their flock and defend us and support us if needed in court or suchlike, by using their lawyers to help us. We have helped the GB financially and with prayers for years, and in return they have thrown us to the wolves and lions😭. Jehovah sees all the GB have done and will hold them accountable in the future🙏.
 

Liz

Active member
Yes and he is also the 'researchers' mentioned in the 11/1/11 Watchtower p.25 that said all 13 sets of lunar observations on VAT4956 support 607. (They don't and anyone can verify this.)

Jesus taught clearly, the slave that is faithful and discreet is identified at his coming.
 

Liz

Active member
I wonder who the faithful and discreet slave will be when Jesus comes. The GB have shown to us with their atrocious behavior with the child sex abuse issue and the covid-19 vaccines that they are not behaving like the faithful and discreet slave, as they have not been faithful to their heavenly father Jehovah and to their flock in these major issues.
 

SusanB

Well-known member
I have tried to talk to a few JWs in my local area regarding the covid-19 "vaccines" not being safe for us and the GB should not be telling anyone or even suggesting to take this medical injections/"vaccines". All the JWs I spoke to regarding the covid-19 "vaccines" totally refused to consider what I was trying to tell them. This is exactly like trying to tell people who are not JWs that there is no hell, and no trinity etc!!! It also has shown that most JWs are sheep and do what ever the GB tell them to without doing any research for themselves if what the GB tells to is correct. For along time the GB have told us do your own research using the Bible and other tools and make your own decisions if this is a correct option for you. But with the covid-19 "vaccines" the GB did not force us to take the covid-19 "vaccines", but they definitely tried to encourage us take the covid-19 "vaccines", by their multiple videos on jw.org talking about the benefits of these "vaccines":eek:. It is their job to take care of their flock and defend us and support us if needed in court or suchlike, by using their lawyers to help us. We have helped the GB financially and with prayers for years, and in return they have thrown us to the wolves and lions😭. Jehovah sees all the GB have done and will hold them accountable in the future🙏.
This entire issue has revealed who are following commands of men and who are actually looking to Jehovah and his Son for guidance. Thank you for your comments. You are not alone.

Mark 7:6-8: “He said to them: “Isaiah aptly prophesied about you hypocrites, as it is written, ‘This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me. It is in vain that they keep worshipping me, for they teach commands of men as doctrines.’ You let go of the commandment of God and cling to the tradition of men.”
 

SusanB

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I wonder who the faithful and discreet slave will be when Jesus comes. The GB have shown to us with their atrocious behavior with the child sex abuse issue and the covid-19 vaccines that they are not behaving like the faithful and discreet slave, as they have not been faithful to their heavenly father Jehovah and to their flock in these major issues.

There is a thread on Chapter 5 of Robert King’s book that explains what the bible says about the revealing of the sealed anointed ones after Jesus appears to them.

 
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