Stepping down as an elder

Liz

Active member
However, Luke clarifies there are some who didn’t do the right thing out of ignorance and they will receive a few strokes:

Luke 12:47-48: “Then that slave who understood the will of his master but did not get ready or do what he asked will be beaten with many strokes. But the one who did not understand and yet did things deserving of strokes will be beaten with few. Indeed, everyone to whom much was given, much will be demanded of him, and the one who was put in charge of much will have more than usual demanded of him.”
The GB have judgement coming to them due to their atrocious behaviour mandating elders to get the covid-19 fake "vaccines", and not defending us legally to not take vaccine. As these fake "vaccines" are dangerous the GB should be defending us, they choose to do the opposite. Hence Jehovah will hold our GB accountable, as these vaccines have killed and injured many millions of people around the world. :eek:
 

SusanB

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The GB have judgement coming to them due to their atrocious behaviour mandating elders to get the covid-19 fake "vaccines", and not defending us legally to not take vaccine. As these fake "vaccines" are dangerous the GB should be defending us, they choose to do the opposite. Hence Jehovah will hold our GB accountable, as these vaccines have killed and injured many millions of people around the world. :eek:
I understand your feelings. However, I am not aware of any mandate for Elders. I did know about the mandate for full time workers.
 

Eventhorizon

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Oh there is a mandate for attending theocratic schools-and it is a purge. Presented as you do not have to take, but you can’t attend the school in person(no zoom option). In my opinion just presenting it this way to see who will comply willingly because of the desire to be in attendance or peer pressure. The shoe will drop later for the ones who did not comply
 

SusanB

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Oh there is a mandate for attending theocratic schools-and it is a purge. Presented as you do not have to take, but you can’t attend the school in person(no zoom option). In my opinion just presenting it this way to see who will comply willingly because of the desire to be in attendance or peer pressure. The shoe will drop later for the ones who did not comply
I forgot about the schools. Definitely coercion and separating.
 

SusanB

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Oh there is a mandate for attending theocratic schools-and it is a purge. Presented as you do not have to take, but you can’t attend the school in person(no zoom option). In my opinion just presenting it this way to see who will comply willingly because of the desire to be in attendance or peer pressure. The shoe will drop later for the ones who did not comply
And, I guess I’m happy to be separated out by people pushing the Satanic vaccine.

Acts 5:41: “So they went out from before the Sanʹhe·drin, rejoicing+ because they had been counted worthy to be dishonored in behalf of his name”.
 

KevinB

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Thank you for your kind words, but know that I am not stumbled. Although I am angry at the GB for their atrocious behaviour in regards to a personal issue that I have been dealing with for over 30 years. Since late 2011 I particularly needed the support of the local JWs in my area, but I got the exact opposite!!! This personal has not yet been finished - it still ongoing 😭 . It would achieve nothing and help no one if I left JW org, but I know that many JWs in my local area would rather I was not at their meetings so that they would not see a constant reminder of their atrocious behavior they have done to me. But that is their problem - not my mine. As I serve Jehovah - not men or the GB or the JWs causing me trouble.
But more importantly the GB's behavior in regards to the covid-19 "vaccine" not protecting and supporting their flock from this "vaccine". Instead the GB have been actively encouraging their flock to take this "vaccine", and mandating the elders to take this "vaccine"!!! Jehovah will hold the GB to account. The GB will not escape Jehovah's wrath!!!
I believe JW's themselves are at fault too not just the GB. It seems the GB capitulated to the general feelings of JW's in regard to the "vax". Imagine if the had the stones to analyze the rMNA "vaccine" which is really gene therapy and warned them. There would have been an backlash the likes they had never scene from the congs and the world. Jehovah has left them. Few realize it's a personal choice and there are adverse affects.
 

SusanB

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I believe JW's themselves are at fault too not just the GB. It seems the GB capitulated to the general feelings of JW's in regard to the "vax". Imagine if the had the stones to analyze the rMNA "vaccine" which is really gene therapy and warned them. There would have been an backlash the likes they had never scene from the congs and the world. Jehovah has left them. Few realize it's a personal choice and there are adverse affects.
Interesting thought that they actually took their marching orders from brothers and sisters. I think it is possible, sadly.
 

Joe MacTeeg

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Interesting thought that they actually took their marching orders from brothers and sisters. I think it is possible, sadly.
No way. The GB took their marching orders from Satan's beast system. My son called it from the very first update in 2020, long before the jabs. They immediately began to instill fear in the members: '5,000 of our dear brothers and sisters have died from the virus.' The handwriting was on the wall right from the start. The GB never wavered in their desire to curry favor from "the authorities." The sheep were sold to the slaughter.
 

SusanB

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No way. The GB took their marching orders from Satan's beast system. My son called it from the very first update in 2020, long before the jabs. They immediately began to instill fear in the members: '5,000 of our dear brothers and sisters have died from the virus.' The handwriting was on the wall right from the start. The GB never wavered in their desire to curry favor from "the authorities." The sheep were sold to the slaughter.
I agree this is the most likely scenario but the CNN watching brothers and sisters were all too happy about the direction. They gleefully promoted it in their comments.
 

Sundial

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These are "sheep" who are predisposed after years of intense indoctrination to follow the leader no matter how odd. It gives them a deep sense of pride and virtue. What other organization professing "love" could get parents and loved ones to totally turn their backs on their own kids and family members for any number of perceived missteps, yet hide criminals from the law that have violated them? That is true brainwashing. It is sad few ever survive long enough to question the insanity.
 

Joe MacTeeg

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I agree this is the most likely scenario but the CNN watching brothers and sisters were all too happy about the direction. They gleefully promoted it in their comments.
For sure. We lived it too. Zoom field service was the Twilight Zone. I was still an elder, and my wife was still regular pioneering. Often she just had to turn the sound off. They just kept regurgitating CNN talking points. While in Saturday service, I tried to straighten out an elder who was likening the Pfizer and Moderna jabs to two kinds of cookies, 'one like chocolate chip, and the other like chocolate chip with nuts'. So, I went into the VAERS report. 😵‍💫
 

Arctic Cat

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No way. The GB took their marching orders from Satan's beast system. My son called it from the very first update in 2020, long before the jabs. They immediately began to instill fear in the members: '5,000 of our dear brothers and sisters have died from the virus.' The handwriting was on the wall right from the start. The GB never wavered in their desire to curry favor from "the authorities." The sheep were sold to the slaughter.
I was telling my father the very same thing.. if only he had been as receptive and awake as you, things could have been alot different for my family at least.
 

BagdadBill

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The governing body have a method of putting an idea out to the congregations. I call it dancing around the fire. They are forbidden to actually walk through the fire but they will dance around it until you notice the fire. It is your job to walk through the fire and that is what they want but they can't actually say it aloud. All of Jehovah's people know how this works, if they can be honest with themselves. They never actually say it but you know what they meant. I refer to the remarks of David Splane who came very near to being singed by the fire.
Jesus sent an angel with a can of gas and if they are smart, they will step away from the fire. They will pay for their undue influence in getting the friends to take the injection. God as my witness.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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And, I guess I’m happy to be separated out by people pushing the Satanic vaccine.

Acts 5:41: “So they went out from before the Sanʹhe·drin, rejoicing+ because they had been counted worthy to be dishonored in behalf of his name”.
I expect that there must be some move from the evil slave to denounce those who expose or resist their lead. I’m not sure it is the vaccine though that may be the first rung of the ladder. I would expect a far more critical challenge on a scriptural matter of faith from the evil slave to be the turning point for the very reason that faith is a critical component of the issue to hand. I have never seen it as an issue of do as you are told, but of believe what we tell you. The issue is of allegiance to the core values of Jehovah and of our relationship with and acceptance of those values. There were ten plagues upon Egypt and it was only the last one that broke the camels back. I don’t know if there is an analogy there. I’m not exactly a theologian in these matters.
 

BagdadBill

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I expect that there must be some move from the evil slave to denounce those who expose or resist their lead. I’m not sure it is the vaccine though that may be the first rung of the ladder. I would expect a far more critical challenge on a scriptural matter of faith from the evil slave to be the turning point for the very reason that faith is a critical component of the issue to hand. I have never seen it as an issue of do as you are told, but of believe what we tell you. The issue is of allegiance to the core values of Jehovah and of our relationship with and acceptance of those values. There were ten plagues upon Egypt and it was only the last one that broke the camels back. I don’t know if there is an analogy there. I’m not exactly a theologian in these matters.
Jehovah does not appreciate those who fail to acknowledge that we are HIS slaves, not theirs. Jehovah is the only being who has slave who don't feel like slaves. Slavery or servitude to the Creator is not a bad thing nor is it a burden. I'm not making this up. You can read it for yourself in this amazing new book called The Bible.
 

Joe MacTeeg

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I expect that there must be some move from the evil slave to denounce those who expose or resist their lead. I’m not sure it is the vaccine though that may be the first rung of the ladder. I would expect a far more critical challenge on a scriptural matter of faith from the evil slave to be the turning point for the very reason that faith is a critical component of the issue to hand. I have never seen it as an issue of do as you are told, but of believe what we tell you. The issue is of allegiance to the core values of Jehovah and of our relationship with and acceptance of those values. There were ten plagues upon Egypt and it was only the last one that broke the camels back. I don’t know if there is an analogy there. I’m not exactly a theologian in these matters.
It was a Scriptural matter of faith, because no matter how one personally viewed the jabs, the governing body violated the Scriptures by placing so-called respect and obedience to the authorities over one's personal Bible trained conscience. It is Bible 101. (Romans 14) It even violated their own published application of these principles. Elders, fellow Christians, government authorities, and the governing body have no Biblical right to override personal conscience and informed consent in 'health' matters. So, all elders and all Christian JW's had a responsibility before God to stand for the Bible principles, and call out the GB for violating them. The GB "helpers", instead of being mature true Christian men, became 'enablers'. There will be no bigger test in the future, in my view.
 

Jess

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For sure. We lived it too. Zoom field service was the Twilight Zone. I was still an elder, and my wife was still regular pioneering. Often she just had to turn the sound off. They just kept regurgitating CNN talking points. While in Saturday service, I tried to straighten out an elder who was likening the Pfizer and Moderna jabs to two kinds of cookies, 'one like chocolate chip, and the other like chocolate chip with nuts'. So, I went into the VAERS report. 😵‍💫
Same here! It was so bizarre!
 
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