Seven Jehovah's Witnesses killed in Kingdom Hall shooting in Hamburg, Germany.

Cristo

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Yes, of course I agree with you and Robert, that it is the wicked spirit forces/angels who are directing these things. I realize that, and most here do as well. But until you are specifically targeted for "decomposition" by the angles physical minions here on earth, you simply cannot understand the tremendous influence it can have on your psyche if you have never been targeted before. People cannot know something fully until they have experienced it themselves. Just as Satan could not know what the Knowledge of Bad was until he actually used his free will to choose bad. Up to that point, badness was only a thought without an action associated to it.
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We are all being "gang stalked" by demons. That is a reality. Humans are largely inconsequential. That is why the apostle reminded us that our fight is not against flesh and blood, but against wicked spirits.
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You state the obvious, but that doesn't diminish the effects this has on those who do not understand what is happening to them, as the shooter no doubt was going through a tremendous struggle in his perception of reality. Empathy is a good thing Robert, although everything can be looked at as black and white, a lot is missed seeing only two colors.
 
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The valid question still remains. Did Jehovah's angel have cause to withhold his protection or leave his post, making it possible for the tragedy to occur? Regardless of whether the shooter was conflicted or plain evil. Reports say he took his own life immediately afterwards.
 
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BagdadBill

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Seadog said:
This is on the mark BTG
I actually think I’m depressing myself with the reading I’m undertaking on the net. The system is rotten to the core and you’re absolutely correct there are so many truly evil and selfish people out there eg big pharma and money. Mate I’m gunna take the pledge and read more bible plus prayer👍
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I can vouch for this. The first two years of Covid I immersed myself in trying to understand what was happening and what else was connected to it. It's enough to say that they have a master planner who isn't human, but hates humans.
 
The God Pill

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Cristo said:
Yes, of course I agree with you and Robert, that it is the wicked spirit forces/angels who are directing these things. I realize that, and most here do as well. But until you are specifically targeted for "decomposition" by the angles physical minions here on earth, you simply cannot understand the tremendous influence it can have on your psyche if you have never been targeted before. People cannot know something fully until they have experienced it themselves. Just as Satan could not know what the Knowledge of Bad was until he actually used his free will to choose bad. Up to that point, badness was only a thought without an action associated to it.
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I have no desire or intention of minimizing the experiences of you and other targeted individuals I've experienced electronic harassment and stalking from masons on occasion peaked in early 2022. Never hesitate to share your lived experiences. I've been very stoic though for almost six years because I had to too survive some very messed up situations in 2016-2017 so that kind of stuff doesn't phase me much alert most certainly cautious as serpents and innocent as doves but the most inadvisable thing would be for any of us to live in fear that only leaves us more vulnerable to parasitism.
 
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One thing I do find interesting is the fact that both recent shooting murder incidents on Kingdom Hall grounds resulted in the killer then shooting himself. It's as the scripture says a eye for a eye tooth for a tooth. Yes it does happen at other such tragic incidents elsewhere but both recent events the shooter has taken his own life. I believe the demons will be preying more and more on those who are vulnerable to their attacks. On those eho open doors for demons to enter into them. Anger and revenge of those who have been disfellowshipped shunned hurt betrayed become targets for demons to attack and possess. I believe more JW or ex JW will be in the news for such attacks. As the scripture says brother will betray brother mother will turn on daughter, father on their son. Those who shun their family and friends at WT human made unscriptual basis are creating pain and anger that open doors to demons to take over.
 
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Jehovahsloyalchild said:
One thing I do find interesting is the fact that both recent shooting murder incidents on Kingdom Hall grounds resulted in the killer then shooting himself. It's as the scripture says a eye for a eye.
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Yeah, that, but didn't Judas kill himself? Son of destruction. As I said, there are zillions of zombie killers out there. Jehovah either protects us or He doesn't. If He doesn't, then there's a problem. WT - we have a problem.
 
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Yeah, that, but didn't Judas kill himself? Son of destruction. As I said, there are zillions of zombie killers out there. Jehovah either protects us or He doesn't. If He doesn't, then there's a problem. WT - we have a problem.
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Amen...jehovahs protection is contingent on loyalty and exclusive worship and obedience. He was loyal and protected the Isrealites as long as they OBEYED Him and worshipped Him and Him alone. It's unfortunate but many witnesses are following man and idolize the WT. Jehovah is beyond angry and is rightfully so. The WT has exulted themselves as a God and slave for money and worship Satan and yhe demons....big problem I would definitely agree.
 
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I have never sent a message that was received well, not one, at least that has communicated to me, and I have sent hundreds of thousands over the last 20-some years.
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I am not really following the reasoning here, as I am far from the sharpest knife in the drawer- but what is the purpose of the campaign? to deliver a hailstone message? to antagonize? or is it an get an acknowledgement, apology, and hope for reform?
 
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Eventhorizon said:
I am not really following the reasoning here, as I am far from the sharpest knife in the drawer- but what is the purpose of the campaign? to deliver a hailstone message? to antagonize? or is it an get an acknowledgement, apology, and hope for reform?
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The Watchtower has long campaigned to expose Christnedom's false doctrines and hypocrisy. Using their criteria, I present to elders the hypocritical, backdoor dealings and phony prophetic interpretation of the Watchtower. They can make of it what they will. Truth is truth. Like I have said, to date no a single JW has been able to refute what I say. They can only say get away, never contact me again, blah, blah, blah. So, the end result is that those who claim to be in the truth are no different then the householders who tall the witnesses to get off their porch, or whatever
 
Niobium

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Watchman said:
The Watchtower has long campaigned to expose Christnedom's false doctrines and hypocrisy. Using their criteria, I present to elders the hypocritical, backdoor dealings and phony prophetic interpretation of the Watchtower. They can make of it what they will. Truth is truth. Like I have said, to date no a single JW has been able to refute what I say. They can only say get away, never contact me again, blah, blah, blah. So, the end result is that those who claim to be in the truth are no different then the householders who tall the witnesses to get off their porch, or whatever
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“The pot calling the kettle black” as the saying goes.
 
Melinda

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Watchman said:
If anyone is so inclined please help me distribute this Kingdom Bulletin. Here is the PDF for print. As most of you know, I have been doing mass mailings for a long time. I have used up several printers and mechanical paper folders. On the first mass mailing, I hired a professional company to mail every kingdom hall in America, impelling about half the congregations to remove their mailboxes. Anyway, now that this mass shooting in Germany has got their attention I would like to give them my message. Yes, it is hard-hitting. That's the only way I know how. But I believe the message is from Jehovah. If I didn't believe that I wouldn't be doing this. But it has to get out there quickly. Please email a link to the article to elders or CO or print out a copy or two, or three and send them to individuals at Warwick or to assembly halls or branch offices, the addresses of which are on the drop-down menu of the main contact page. Here is their mailing address: of Warwick, Patterson and Walkill. If you wish to remain anonymous use a kingdom hall address for your return address. That's what I do now. Hey, theocratic warfare and all. ;)

Thanks for your support.
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Robert I have a cousin who is 80 years old from Arkansas and has been in the Truth since she was 20. I introduced you to her when I found you a year ago. She is the one that has 2 grandchildren who are elders and also a son that monitor her emails. So I send to her thru the mail your watchman posts on a regular basis. She does not want her grandchildren to think she is apostate so she is always careful for them to get her email thats why I sent your posts thru the mail. Well let me tell you what changed to night. She called me just 30 minutes ago because I sent to her thru the mail Kingdom Bulletin #24 she just got it today . She told me...."Girl I am ready...everything Robert said in that letter is 100% true ....she said me and Jack (her husband we want to help what can we do" I told her about how Robert wanted email addresses of elders...well she has plenty. She was trying to figure out how to get them to me. So I told her I will call her tomorrow and I will write down every address she wants to share and I will forward to Robert.
 
Ms_ladyblue

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Although many of you may not like to listen to Kim I will actually only listen to her updates on events such as this or on the organization. I don’t like to see or listen to it when Mikey‘s on there. But here’s some interesting information she brought out on this short video.

 
alan ford

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Just imagine if some mass killer went into a Catholic or Lutheran church and shot up a bunch of parishioners and the JWs hold a ceremony for the dead and expect Catholics to go to their Kingdom Halls and listen to them pontificate.
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I can understand why. But the reason they stated is that it impacted the whole of Hamburg so that's why...
 
alan ford

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Here is an article on it. It seems rather bias, even describing the reaction of JW's as "outrage." The female bishop says she wants to pray together with JWs. What nonsense. Who is she going to pray to?
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Yeah that's the same article I read, posted by Ms_ladyblue. My initial reaction was about the empathy and solidarity these guys want to show. And JW are outraged about it. The reason you mention is more important to them and I understand why. My initial reaction was empathetic and went beyond religious reasons but now that I think about it, it's possible that this will create more controversy for the JW...
 
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alan ford said:
Yeah that's the same article I read, posted by Ms_ladyblue. My initial reaction was about the empathy and solidarity these guys want to show. And JW are outraged about it. The reason you mention is more important to them and I understand why. My initial reaction was empathetic and went beyond religious reasons but now that I think about it, it's possible that this will create more controversy for the JW...
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Yeah, you would think that if the community was serious and wanted to show their support they would just go to a JW funeral. Instead, they want to host it and make a show of ecumenicism.
 
Ms_ladyblue

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Ms_ladyblue said:
Can you believe this? Kim Mikey has been keeping updated on all the information concerning this

news.https://www.indonewyork.com/breaking/jehovah-s-witnesses-ecumenical-commemoration-for-victims-of-the-h77000.html
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Hmm 🤨 I don’t know why it didn’t post it here. But I thank you for posting it Robert @Watchman ☺️
 
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