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Ms_ladyblue

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I hear in some cases people end up with schizophrenia if the batch is not the degradable kind. That stuff can store in places like you spine & something like cracking your back can lead to an involuntary trip.
I believe that’s true. I don’t know if you’re too young to remember a television personality, Art Linkletter, host of a popular kid’s TV show. Anyway, the story back in the late 60’s was well known that his daughter in her earlier teen years had done LSD.
But it wasn’t until years later that she died because, it was reported that she had a flashback from an LSD trip and jumped out of her sixth floor window.

From what you were saying then, that explains what would‘ve caused something like that to happen.
 

Sunshower

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My 2nd brother was taking Prozak, and I have always been convinced that was part of the reason he took his own life!
This could well be the reason. It’s even in the leaflet that you can get suicidal. Like being depressed doesn’t mess you up enough already 😞
I too was a victim of using pharmaceuticals. Years ago when I had trouble with panic attacks and some depression, my NP prescribed me an anti-depressant anxiety medicine called Klonopin but neglected to tell me that if I decided to get off of them to taper off. So, a few years later and not knowing any better,I decided to get off them cold turkey.
I tried to do it in two weeks once and I was just physically sick. So when I tried last year it took me about 3-4 months to get off it. It’s horrible stuff.
 

MickHewitt

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This could well be the reason. It’s even in the leaflet that you can get suicidal. Like being depressed doesn’t mess you up enough already 😞

I tried to do it in two weeks once and I was just physically sick. So when I tried last year it took me about 3-4 months to get off it. It’s horrible stuff.
I'm sure some are designed to really make you ill and depressed. After taking them you think wow I felt better before them! Read the warnings on them. 'Do not take if feeling suicidal as increased suicidal thoughts may occur'....I mean come on!
 

יהוה_saves

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i’m following your guys’s convo. very interesting- and I agrée 100% that all this pharmakeia junk exacerbates the conditions that they’re supposed to cure.

The whole chemical imbalance in the brain narrative never made sense to me either. Anytime i was ever suffering from anxiety or depression, there was always, everytime, an external situation in my life causing both.

And doctors don’t care- they simply pull out their prescription pads and write scripts for multiple drugs not knowing or caring about the damage they inflict.

And no wonder- JD Rockefeller captured orthodox medical and health care in the early 1930s turning it into an “industry” with his money-backed petroleum based pharmaceutical poison.
 

MuleJule

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@PJ54 Thank you for sharing your life story. I saw you post it a while back and I didn't have time, so I bookmarked & just now had a minute. I love hearing people's stories. We've all been through so much, some like you have been through sooooo much trauma. I am amazed at how some people are able to endure and keep their senses. You have a strong conscience and you seem to have been more aware, observant and sensible than most youth. I have recently been listening to a lot of life stories of former JWs and it's interesting how many of them say they have ADHD.

I agree with what others said on this thread about phrarmaceuticals and SSRIs etc. I have been told over and over through the years... just get on prozak, lexipro, etc. Many of witnesses I know are able to continue their "spiritual routine" because they are heavily medicated with that stuff. But something inside me said no. When I was a teenager, helping my grandma with her pills, I told myself NEVER will I get hooked on any kind of medications, and to this day I have taken none.

So, i wonder if anyone watched the part of the convention where they had the very emotional interviews with the sick little girl etc? There was a sister who was a nurse, who said she suffered from depression etc, and that she tried journaling, exercising and other self help, but nothing worked, so she decided to go to her doctor and now she's doing much better. We all know that if she went to her doctor, she got put on meds. So it seems to me the org is saying this is the way to go. It was supposed to be an inspiring segment, but I got upset. My husband doesn't see eye to eye with me about this. He thought it was wonderful. So i was just wondering if anyone else caught that.
 

kirmmy

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There was a sister who was a nurse, who said she suffered from depression etc, and that she tried journaling, exercising
Good for you for resisting our drugged culture. Going on medication should be an absolute last resort. Regarding exercise, I find it strange it didn't work for her. I knew a guy who was clinically depressed when it first began to strike him. He was physically lazy but he was desperate so he began jogging. He was amazed to see it worked. As long as he put forth the effort, he could manage the illness. Today? He's on more drugs than Pfizer makes. He asks his shrink for drugs for the slightest problem he may run into. It's pathetic. Getting some regular, physical exercise was just too much for him. He gave up and decided drugs were the "easy way". Today, he's just not all there, he became really strange, a different guy. But, he's a Brother in good standing, so that's what's important...I guess...

If the system collapses and he can't get his drugs, it makes me wonder what will happen with him.

BTW, this isn't saying exercise will work for all. But it's an option that should be tried before drugs are resorted to. There are a lot of options that should be tried before drugs...
 

PJ54

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If the system collapses and he can't get his drugs, it makes me wonder what will happen with him.
Considering the tension between the West & China w/ India right now, it'll be hell. After taking so many pills, the side effects will likely put you on the opiate painkillers. Between the lack of pain killers & anti-psychotic drugs missing, the red horseman will be able to easily influence the masses.
 

PJ54

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@PJ54 Thank you for sharing your life story. I saw you post it a while back and I didn't have time, so I bookmarked & just now had a minute. I love hearing people's stories. We've all been through so much, some like you have been through sooooo much trauma. I am amazed at how some people are able to endure and keep their senses. You have a strong conscience and you seem to have been more aware, observant and sensible than most youth. I have recently been listening to a lot of life stories of former JWs and it's interesting how many of them say they have ADHD.

I agree with what others said on this thread about phrarmaceuticals and SSRIs etc. I have been told over and over through the years... just get on prozak, lexipro, etc. Many of witnesses I know are able to continue their "spiritual routine" because they are heavily medicated with that stuff. But something inside me said no. When I was a teenager, helping my grandma with her pills, I told myself NEVER will I get hooked on any kind of medications, and to this day I have taken none.

So, i wonder if anyone watched the part of the convention where they had the very emotional interviews with the sick little girl etc? There was a sister who was a nurse, who said she suffered from depression etc, and that she tried journaling, exercising and other self help, but nothing worked, so she decided to go to her doctor and now she's doing much better. We all know that if she went to her doctor, she got put on meds. So it seems to me the org is saying this is the way to go. It was supposed to be an inspiring segment, but I got upset. My husband doesn't see eye to eye with me about this. He thought it was wonderful. So i was just wondering if anyone else caught that.
I've had my fair share of bovine manure throwing in my face & in my mouth many times (figuratively, not literally I hope). I remember when I almost was put on Ritalin or Adderall in which had I used it long term, I'd likely end up with schizophrenia since it runs in the family. It's why I struggle daily & come off chaotic (the ADHD mixed with depression). My mind is a vicious tormentor & it's to the point one of my aunts thinks I have PTSD/shell shock. It's likely why I don't handle stress well. Plus, it's been challenge to interact with the friends since I struggle to be on the same wavelength as them. In the end you can only take it one day at a time.
 

CyndiaS

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@PJ54 Thank you for sharing your life story. I saw you post it a while back and I didn't have time, so I bookmarked & just now had a minute. I love hearing people's stories. We've all been through so much, some like you have been through sooooo much trauma. I am amazed at how some people are able to endure and keep their senses. You have a strong conscience and you seem to have been more aware, observant and sensible than most youth. I have recently been listening to a lot of life stories of former JWs and it's interesting how many of them say they have ADHD.

I agree with what others said on this thread about phrarmaceuticals and SSRIs etc. I have been told over and over through the years... just get on prozak, lexipro, etc. Many of witnesses I know are able to continue their "spiritual routine" because they are heavily medicated with that stuff. But something inside me said no. When I was a teenager, helping my grandma with her pills, I told myself NEVER will I get hooked on any kind of medications, and to this day I have taken none.

So, i wonder if anyone watched the part of the convention where they had the very emotional interviews with the sick little girl etc? There was a sister who was a nurse, who said she suffered from depression etc, and that she tried journaling, exercising and other self help, but nothing worked, so she decided to go to her doctor and now she's doing much better. We all know that if she went to her doctor, she got put on meds. So it seems to me the org is saying this is the way to go. It was supposed to be an inspiring segment, but I got upset. My husband doesn't see eye to eye with me about this. He thought it was wonderful. So i was just wondering if anyone else caught that.
Yes, I had the same reaction to those experiences as you described.
 
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