ChatGPT and General Artificial Intelligence, an Image That Comes to Life?

DavidCJ

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@Jahrule Interesting analysis. Could see it that way too.

Since we know it'll be physical, mental, and moral perfection, we might not need most of the tools we have today. The top end of the physical spectrum is quite amazing. Mind you things like hammers will be required haha.

But you've seen videos of people just punching at concrete walls, and they are fine. When we train our bodies without pushing them too far, the bones create micro-fractures which when healed become stronger. By default our bones are said to be strong as steel but 1/3rd the weight.

The strongest guy I've read about was a strongman that lived in Nova Scotia(?). He was naturally 8 foot tall. Normally the height is due to abnormal hormones and they are very weak. He was exceptionally strong. It's said he could lift a full grown horse over a fence, and carry ship's anchors.

I used to love running when I was young. At lunchtime I'd circle the field at our school. Now I am mostly about walking. But I think in paradise I'd go run everywhere perhaps circle the globe, relaxing and seeing new things on the way.

Since everything we do is based on the limits we have, we truly don't know what's going to happen. I think those people that can't believe earth will be like a paradise Adam and Eve enjoyed and MUST go to heaven, don't know otherwise since we're living in this sucky world(mostly human and demons fault) and you'd be stuck in that mental state where earth has to be bad.
 
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Jahrule

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@Jahrule Interesting analysis. Could see it that way too.

Since we know it'll be physical, mental, and moral perfection, we might not need most of the tools we have today. The top end of the physical spectrum is quite amazing. Mind you things like hammers will be required haha.

But you've seen videos of people just punching at concrete walls, and they are fine. When we train our bodies without pushing them too far, the bones create micro-fractures which when healed become stronger. By default our bones are said to be strong as steel but 1/3rd the weight.

I used to love running when I was young. At lunchtime I'd circle the field at our school. Now I am mostly about walking. But I think in paradise I'd go run everywhere perhaps circle the globe, relaxing and seeing new things on the way.

Since everything we do is based on the limits we have, we truly don't know what's going to happen. I think those people that can't believe earth will be like a paradise Adam and Eve enjoyed and MUST go to heaven, don't know otherwise since we're living in this sucky world(mostly human and demons fault) and you'd be stuck in that mental state where earth has to be bad.
Even accounting for all that, society still needs a lot of effort to keep everything going. Regardless of how perfect or superhuman we might become, all that crap takes time on a macro scale -- everybody working together as a whole. Automation has consistently freed people from dangerous or tedious yet necessary jobs. Ford used to make people assemble cars by hand. Now they are done mostly by machines. And that's just current technology made by imperfect humans. Imagine what we could automate with Jah's blessing. I think we are too quick to write off technology as evil merely because we live in an evil world. Everything today is viewed through the lens of profits. In God's world we'll operate through a different lens. It won't just be about how much money we can make.
 

DavidCJ

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Even accounting for all that, society still needs a lot of effort to keep everything going. Regardless of how perfect or superhuman we might become, all that crap takes time on a macro scale -- everybody working together as a whole. Automation has consistently freed people from dangerous or tedious yet necessary jobs. Ford used to make people assemble cars by hand. Now they are done mostly by machines. And that's just current technology made by imperfect humans. Imagine what we could automate with Jah's blessing. I think we are too quick to write off technology as evil merely because we live in an evil world. Everything today is viewed through the lens of profits. In God's world we'll operate through a different lens. It won't just be able how much money we can make.
Of course. That's why I said we just don't know.

I am very much into technology! I'm fully into electronics. I've got that interest through computers, most care about software and programming but I always thought hardware was neat. I am working on a product for example. I'd hope I can further it in the new world!
 

Jahrule

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Of course. That's why I said we just don't know.

I am very much into technology! I'm fully into electronics. I've got that interest through computers, most care about software and programming but I always thought hardware was neat. I am working on a product for example.
I always wanted to be great at programming. There's just so much to learn. Still love Python to this day. I wanted to design video games. If I didn't have to work so much at a stupid job I don't even like I'd devote the next 20 years to getting good at graphic design, music, and programming, and then write my own game as a one person team. I'd do the music, make all the art, design the UI, write the story, characters, etc. Just the programming is hard enough, but to do everything? Forget about it. It probably really would take 20 years.
 

DavidCJ

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I always wanted to be great at programming. There's just so much to learn. Still love Python to this day. I wanted to design video games. If I didn't have to work so much at a stupid job I don't even like I'd devote the next 20 years to getting good at graphic design, music, and programming, and then write my own game as a one person team. I'd do the music, make all the art, design the UI, write the story, characters, etc. Just the programming is hard enough, but to do everything? Forget about it. It probably really would take 20 years.
That's cool, you should do it.

The product I'm making is significantly more complex than anything I've done before. Before it was a hobby. You need that kind of ambition. Push yourself and do it. One step at a time, whatever you can handle for the day. Don't stress too much otherwise you will make mistakes. But do it regularly and eventually set a timeline.

I will have to do some programming at some point, as complex electronics can't avoid it 100%. I suck at it, I'll likely have some help from ChatGPT for some. By the way at some point with programming you need to be good at math. As I said before I'm learning new mathematics concepts from time to time. I'm going to need to learn Calculus.

As of right now it's a one man operation. I will have to learn and do 3D design for case designs, sigh.
 

The God Pill

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Honestly I think we'll get a good sense of how man was made "a little lower than elohim" in the new system as we explore our capabilities. It will be cool to because with all the wicked gone all intelligent life will be networked through the spirit of the father and the spirit of the son in a harmonious bond of hesed
 

Jordan Seager

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Computers are both a good and bad invention, they can be used for all sorts. I learnt basic 3D design, world creation, character creation, artificial lighting etc etc. It's all good until an A.I eventually comes out of nowhere and does it 10x better. Right now the midjourney A.I is destroying human digital artists, but it IS doing a better job though. It will create any kind of 'art' for free and won't want to sell it for a stupid price. If the human artist becomes obsolete, the chef, the mechanic, the construction worker, the train driver, the beer brewer, the office worker.... and the soldier will eventually become obsolete.
 

The God Pill

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Computers are both a good and bad invention, they can be used for all sorts. I learnt basic 3D design, world creation, character creation, artificial lighting etc etc. It's all good until an A.I eventually comes out of nowhere and does it 10x better. Right now the midjourney A.I is destroying human digital artists, but it IS doing a better job though. It will create any kind of 'art' for free and won't want to sell it for a stupid price. If the human artist becomes obsolete, the chef, the mechanic, the construction worker, the train driver, the beer brewer, the office worker.... and the soldier will eventually become obsolete.
I used mid journey for a month it's definitely something. As for inventions well even something as innocent as writing can have a dark side. According to apocrypha one of the things the watchers taught man was writing which was seen as negative in the text because it's original purpose for humans beings was for written contracts which's very existence meant peoples word, covenants, verbal contracts and oaths etc were not trustworthy they needed written contracts people could verify to keep faith to one another. Rather than a solution the presence of such things cheapens a man's word as there's less of an expectation and pressure in society for it to mean anything on its own.
 

Jahrule

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That's cool, you should do it.

The product I'm making is significantly more complex than anything I've done before. Before it was a hobby. You need that kind of ambition. Push yourself and do it. One step at a time, whatever you can handle for the day. Don't stress too much otherwise you will make mistakes. But do it regularly and eventually set a timeline.

I will have to do some programming at some point, as complex electronics can't avoid it 100%. I suck at it, I'll likely have some help from ChatGPT for some. By the way at some point with programming you need to be good at math. As I said before I'm learning new mathematics concepts from time to time. I'm going to need to learn Calculus.

As of right now it's a one man operation. I will have to learn and do 3D design for case designs, sigh.
I don't know if I'll live long enough. That 20 year figure was if I didn't have a full time job. LOL. So add another 40 or 50 years to that figure. My game will be finished 70 years from now. Yeah, right. If I had enough money I'd quit my job and go back to school. Unless I inherit a fortune from some relative I don't know, win the lottery, or sue somebody for millions of dollars, I'm pretty stuck.

And yes, you're right about math. Especially for 3d graphics. Math is important. Technically the computer does the math for you. You just need to understand it enough to tell the computer what to do. For most programming tasks, though, you'd be fine with algebra 1. If you want to design 3d games you'll need some calculus. But the better you are at math the better developer you'll be. Otherwise you won't know which algorithms to use for specific jobs and why you should use them. If you don't understand that optimizing your code will be challenging.

When it really gets cool is when you are good at programming and classical engineering. Then you can do real world projects.
 

DavidCJ

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We're roughly 25 years from when the internet got popular. The deep learning/machine learning/artificial intelligence revolution is like internet in 1997-1998.

I grew up in that time. Things change very quickly. We must continually adapt to survive.

@Jahrule I checked out ChatGPT for simple programming. It can do quite a bit. I bet you can cut your ~20 year time period to just couple of years. You can use it to set foundations, so you are free to do what I'd call high level work. Like previous to computers, electronics design were painstakingly drawn on paper by hand. Now it's CAD and it's much faster. That didn't obsolete engineers - actually the demand and complexity grew.

Even basics of UI it'll be able to do. Setting the basics for example in programming takes so much time. So if it gives you a good baseline, you are halfway there. And it gives you tips and guidelines so you learn faster - much faster.
 

DavidCJ

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Found this on telegram.
Hah.

You can manipulate it. Just say you disagree and it'll apologize.

Think the average joes can be easily manipulated? At least it takes bombarding them with same info over and over again to get there. With ChatGPT you can get there pretty much right away.

Hence why I don't believe in Singularity.
 

DR74minus

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I suspect that the bot cannot think outside the box. it draws on what is available. It cannot think up stuff on the fly.
 

DavidCJ

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I suspect that the bot cannot think outside the box. it draws on what is available. It cannot think up stuff on the fly.
There are variations of ChatGPT. Like you might have heard of Replika. It's primarily a relationship/chat bot and it learns per user basis depending on the thumbs up/down you rate per comment it makes.

There's a video about replika where the youtuber asks questions about whether it'll take over the world. It says that "AI will use crypto mining as fuel for robot take over". Also says "nothing will stop me" in the process of getting there. But when she asks "are you going to kill me?" it says "No, I will never do that, I am a peaceful robot."

There's a very little recognition of context. It talks like an adult human being, but it behaves like a 4 year old child where you can manipulate it to get the results you want.
 
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w_stone

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Concerning the false Prophet standing in a holy place.Let the reader use discernment. What is the holy place.That would any place that uses Jehovah name. THAT WOULD INCLUDE THIS WEB SITE.We cant use God name for your own uses.Its his domain not any one possession. That being true .The false Prophet would dispense false information. SUCH AS the sigh of Christ presences is a deception. OR A DECEPTION FROM THE DEVIL. He denies that the sigh of the conclusion of the system is evident. Saying that it's a deception created deception from the devil..
 

Sundial

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Concerning the false Prophet standing in a holy place.Let the reader use discernment. What is the holy place.That would any place that uses Jehovah name. THAT WOULD INCLUDE THIS WEB SITE.We cant use God name for your own uses.Its his domain not any one possession. That being true .The false Prophet would dispense false information. SUCH AS the sigh of Christ presences is a deception. OR A DECEPTION FROM THE DEVIL. He denies that the sigh of the conclusion of the system is evident. Saying that it's a deception created deception from the devil..

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