Driven crazy!

SusanB

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I initially didn’t want to write anything personal about me, but I did enjoy all of the others who told us something about themselves and so I thought I’d put a few things on this thread. I was born in 1955 in a Catholic Family. I once asked a Catholic Priest, how do you know that Catholicism is the true religion? His answer was that it was because they taught the Trinity. I was only about 9 years old at the time and so I just accepted that. But then as I grew up I realized that pretty much all “christian” religions teach the Trinity. At 19 years old I wanted to study the bible, but back then, the Catholic church didn’t really have bible studies. Instead of telling me, “no, Catholics don’t do that”, they just said “no bible studies at this time.” So, I spent several days calling many different Catholic Churches with the same response. I gave up and tried to read the bible on my own, but gave up on that too. Couldn’t get past the lineage without falling asleep. So, I put my spiritual hunger on ignore, got married had a family and then divorced.

My first husband was Pentecostal (holy roller) and by then I was very suspicious of “religious” people having seen so much hypocrisy. But I gave it an honest look and realized that it was all garbage. And, it had no effect on my first husband, with the exception of making him more of a fake. By the way, he turned into a drug addict, a criminal and he died a few years ago from a drug overdose. This not a bible quote but still a true saying: “Those who live without discipline, die without dignity.”

A very kind sister found me door to door at a time when I was out of work. I was very cautious but agreed to a bible study. Then she surprised me by bringing her husband, which really threw up the red flags to me since I did not trust men (both my father and my husband were abusers.). But I listened and the brother was very kind and humble. I could not deny that the bible was true. The puzzle pieces fit and it had the ring of truth. Something I realize today too when reading Robert’s book and his comments on the daily texts. So, off I went as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

My children were pre-teens when I came into the truth. My fleshly family abandoned and opposed me for becoming one of Jehovah’s Witnesses and my ex-husband’s family also opposed everything taught by Jehovah‘s Witnesses. My children fell under their influence and rejected the truth of the bible and they rejected me because of it, down to this day. But I met Medi-Tator at the weekly book study in 1995 and we got married in short order. We were both in Southern California at that time but Medi-Tator missed living in Hawaii and so when the opportunity presented itself, he returned to live in Hawaii and brought me with him in 1999 and we’ve been here ever since.

I have been plodding along in the truth until this vax fiasco. I always knew it was knowledge of God’s word that would prevent me from becoming prey to spiritual wolves and that has proven true and so here I am. My husband has a daughter from his first marriage and she is a full-time worker for LDC the building work. Her husband is a contractor and Elder. They are both vaccinated but she was coerced into getting it and now does not want to talk about it. Most recently she has had a bad ”cold” for about 2 weeks and we are hoping that she won’t be permanently damaged by the vaccine. She took many health remedies and procedures to remove the spike protein but we will see how it goes and we hope she will not get the booster.

My husband found Robert’s site years ago and I just thought my husband had apostate leanings. My husband actually had many more years in the truth than I had and recognized the beginnings of this apostasy long ago, which was really a stumbling block to him making progress in the truth. I wouldn’t read anything on the website until my desperation from this vaccine issue. Now that I’ve read it, I realize that timing is everything. I could not have accepted the message before realizing that the GB was apostate. So, you are now up to date. Thank you for reading.
 
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Medi-tator

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Yes indeed, timing is everything! Jehovah is everything! Combining Jehovah and timing is Super Awesome!! Your transformation to this refined way of thinking reminds of when Saul Of Tarsus became Paul the apostle to the nations, although obviously a much scaled down version. All praise goes to Jehovah and Jesus for blasting the scales from your eyes! Your spiritual I.Q. is in top shape and your willingness to see and your recognition of the real truth played a huge role in your flight to freedom. Strong work Driven!!
 

Sarah

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I initially didn’t want to write anything personal about me, but I did enjoy all of the others who told us something about themselves and so I thought I’d put a few things on this thread. I was born in 1955 in a Catholic Family. I once asked a Catholic Priest, how do you know that Catholicism is the true religion? His answer was that it was because they taught the Trinity. I was only about 9 years old at the time and so I just accepted that. But then as I grew up I realized that pretty much all “christian” religions teach the Trinity. At 19 years old I wanted to study the bible, but back then, the Catholic church didn’t really have bible studies. Instead of telling me, “no, Catholics don’t do that”, they just said “no bible studies at this time.” So, I spent several days calling many different Catholic Churches with the same response. I gave up and tried to read the bible on my own, but gave up on that too. Couldn’t get past the lineage without falling asleep. So, I put my spiritual hunger on ignore, got married had a family and then divorced.

My first husband was Pentecostal (holy roller) and by then I was very suspicious of “religious” people having seen so much hypocrisy. But I gave it an honest look and realized that it was all garbage. And, it had no effect on my first husband, with the excepting of making him more of a fake. By the way, he turned into a drug addict, a criminal and he died a few years ago from a drug overdose. This not a bible quote but still a true saying: “Those who live without discipline, die without dignity.”

A very kind sister found me door to door at a time when I was out of work. I was very cautious but agreed to a bible study. Then she surprised me by bringing her husband, which really threw up the red flags to me since I did not trust men (both my father and my husband were abusers.). But I listened and the brother was very kind and humble. I could not deny that the bible was true. The puzzle pieces fit and it had the ring of truth. Something I realize today too when reading Robert’s book and his comments on the daily texts. So, off I went as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

My children were pre-teens when I came into the truth. My fleshly family abandoned and opposed me for becoming one of Jehovah’s Witnesses and my ex-husband’s family also opposed everything taught by Jehovah‘s Witnesses. My children fell under their influence and rejected the truth of the bible and they rejected me because of it, down to this day. But I met Medi-Tator at the weekly book study in 1995 and we got married in short order. We were both in Southern California at that time but Medi-Tator missed living in Hawaii and so when the opportunity presented itself, he returned to live in Hawaii and brought me with him in 1999 and we’ve been here ever since.

I have been plodding along in the truth until this vax fiasco. I always knew it was knowledge of God’s word that would prevent me from becoming prey to spiritual wolves and that has proven true and so here I am. My husband has a daughter from his first marriage and she is a full-time worker for LDC the building work. Her husband is a contractor and Elder. They are both vaccinated but she was coerced into getting it and now does not want to talk about it. Most recently she has had a bad ”cold” for about 2 weeks and we are hoping that she won’t be permanently damaged by the vaccine. She took many health remedies and procedures to remove the spike protein but we will see how it goes and we hope she will not get the booster.

My husband found Robert’s site years ago and I just thought my husband had apostate leanings. My husband actually had many more years in the truth than I had and recognized the beginnings of this apostasy long ago, which was really a stumbling block to him making progress in the truth. I wouldn’t read anything on the website until my desperation from this vaccine issue. Now that I’ve read it, I realize that timing is everything. I could not have accepted the message before realizing that the GB was apostate. So, you are now up to date. Thank you for reading.
Thank you for sharing..my husband became a JW after years of searching. He thinks I have issues with the gb/structure of the org because of my past and being brought up as a JW. It’s encouraging that you’ve seen issues now and your husband saw things a while ago. In fact today I was able to say something about 1914 and Jesus return without a cross word. Our neighbour said to him he believes the vaccine is to do with the mark of the beast, I agreed at least it’s a pre cursor, it turns out he’s a 7th day evangelist so I linked Russel with them and turned it to 1914 and said about Christ return not being invisible..who knows but drip feeding
 

SollaSollew

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Thank you for sharing..my husband became a JW after years of searching. He thinks I have issues with the gb/structure of the org because of my past and being brought up as a JW. It’s encouraging that you’ve seen issues now and your husband saw things a while ago. In fact today I was able to say something about 1914 and Jesus return without a cross word. Our neighbour said to him he believes the vaccine is to do with the mark of the beast, I agreed at least it’s a pre cursor, it turns out he’s a 7th day evangelist so I linked Russel with them and turned it to 1914 and said about Christ return not being invisible..who knows but drip feeding
"He thinks I have issues the GB" - your not the only one who has issues with the GB lol, and there will be a lot more in the coming months.
 

SusanB

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Thank you for sharing..my husband became a JW after years of searching. He thinks I have issues with the gb/structure of the org because of my past and being brought up as a JW. It’s encouraging that you’ve seen issues now and your husband saw things a while ago. In fact today I was able to say something about 1914 and Jesus return without a cross word. Our neighbour said to him he believes the vaccine is to do with the mark of the beast, I agreed at least it’s a pre cursor, it turns out he’s a 7th day evangelist so I linked Russel with them and turned it to 1914 and said about Christ return not being invisible..who knows but drip feeding
Yes, I’m certain that the vaccine is as you say, at least a precursor. It’s interesting that in the Life and Ministry meeting they are right now studying Ezekiel in the Pure Worship book. This week their study will include Ezekiel 36:23: “’I will certainly sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the nations, which you profaned among them; and the nations will have to know that I am Jehovah,’ declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, ‘when I am sanctified among you before their eyes.’”. Notice it is Jehovah who does all the sanctifying. When he says ”you” he is obviously referring to his worshippers who have “profaned” his name among the nations. And when he says “their eyes” he is referring to the nations. Interesting to now view it this way.
 

יהוה_saves

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I initially didn’t want to write anything personal about me, but I did enjoy all of the others who told us something about themselves and so I thought I’d put a few things on this thread. I was born in 1955 in a Catholic Family. I once asked a Catholic Priest, how do you know that Catholicism is the true religion? His answer was that it was because they taught the Trinity. I was only about 9 years old at the time and so I just accepted that. But then as I grew up I realized that pretty much all “christian” religions teach the Trinity. At 19 years old I wanted to study the bible, but back then, the Catholic church didn’t really have bible studies. Instead of telling me, “no, Catholics don’t do that”, they just said “no bible studies at this time.” So, I spent several days calling many different Catholic Churches with the same response. I gave up and tried to read the bible on my own, but gave up on that too. Couldn’t get past the lineage without falling asleep. So, I put my spiritual hunger on ignore, got married had a family and then divorced.

My first husband was Pentecostal (holy roller) and by then I was very suspicious of “religious” people having seen so much hypocrisy. But I gave it an honest look and realized that it was all garbage. And, it had no effect on my first husband, with the excepting of making him more of a fake. By the way, he turned into a drug addict, a criminal and he died a few years ago from a drug overdose. This not a bible quote but still a true saying: “Those who live without discipline, die without dignity.”

A very kind sister found me door to door at a time when I was out of work. I was very cautious but agreed to a bible study. Then she surprised me by bringing her husband, which really threw up the red flags to me since I did not trust men (both my father and my husband were abusers.). But I listened and the brother was very kind and humble. I could not deny that the bible was true. The puzzle pieces fit and it had the ring of truth. Something I realize today too when reading Robert’s book and his comments on the daily texts. So, off I went as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

My children were pre-teens when I came into the truth. My fleshly family abandoned and opposed me for becoming one of Jehovah’s Witnesses and my ex-husband’s family also opposed everything taught by Jehovah‘s Witnesses. My children fell under their influence and rejected the truth of the bible and they rejected me because of it, down to this day. But I met Medi-Tator at the weekly book study in 1995 and we got married in short order. We were both in Southern California at that time but Medi-Tator missed living in Hawaii and so when the opportunity presented itself, he returned to live in Hawaii and brought me with him in 1999 and we’ve been here ever since.

I have been plodding along in the truth until this vax fiasco. I always knew it was knowledge of God’s word that would prevent me from becoming prey to spiritual wolves and that has proven true and so here I am. My husband has a daughter from his first marriage and she is a full-time worker for LDC the building work. Her husband is a contractor and Elder. They are both vaccinated but she was coerced into getting it and now does not want to talk about it. Most recently she has had a bad ”cold” for about 2 weeks and we are hoping that she won’t be permanently damaged by the vaccine. She took many health remedies and procedures to remove the spike protein but we will see how it goes and we hope she will not get the booster.

My husband found Robert’s site years ago and I just thought my husband had apostate leanings. My husband actually had many more years in the truth than I had and recognized the beginnings of this apostasy long ago, which was really a stumbling block to him making progress in the truth. I wouldn’t read anything on the website until my desperation from this vaccine issue. Now that I’ve read it, I realize that timing is everything. I could not have accepted the message before realizing that the GB was apostate. So, you are now up to date. Thank you for reading.
Driven- wow, your story is so intersting. I had to laugh a bit when you mentioned how you tried to read the bible on your own but couldn't get past the lineage parts without falling asleep. the exact same thing happened to me!

i knew at a young age that the “church” and the bible were two different things- i always felt a revulsion toward church (“going to church”) but a curiosity about the bible. Nobody was ever willing or able to help me with my curiosity about the bible, but then I too got a visit by JWs. it was a man accompanied with a young boy. Some years would go by (and multple moves across the country) and i would be in a stable enough position accept a bible study with the next JW that came around. I was 26 years old.

i too nudged along in the truth. looking back, i can see where there were red flags but at the time they weren’t anything i would have left Jehovah over. And to be sure, church was never and would never have been an option. still now, it’s not an option for me. Many EXJWs revert to church or church teachings- i often wonder if they have to compromise. I couldn’t do that so for months i was spiritually lost in the ether until i connected with e-watchman.

I too, was bewildered, and felt betrayed by the organization when it became more and more emphatic about the injections- finally culminating in my disassociation.

and here we are! :))))))

i loved reading your story! I see so many elements of my own story laced throughout. it’s so cool. :)))))
 

יהוה_saves

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Thank you for sharing..my husband became a JW after years of searching. He thinks I have issues with the gb/structure of the org because of my past and being brought up as a JW. It’s encouraging that you’ve seen issues now and your husband saw things a while ago. In fact today I was able to say something about 1914 and Jesus return without a cross word. Our neighbour said to him he believes the vaccine is to do with the mark of the beast, I agreed at least it’s a pre cursor, it turns out he’s a 7th day evangelist so I linked Russel with them and turned it to 1914 and said about Christ return not being invisible..who knows but drip feeding

Sarah - I too had issues with the GB so you’re definitely not alone in that respect. It seems like things changed for the worse in the org when the GB came out of the closet, and when they designated themselves the sole faithful and discreet slave, relegating the rest of the anointed to mentally/emotionally unstable.
 

MuleJule

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I really enjoyed reading your experience. Thank you for being so open and honest and letting us all get to know and appreciate you, as well as your husband. It is truly a blessing that you are both on the same page. My husband refuses to discuss any of this with me, which is his right, but it's lonely and I hate feeling like I'm hiding part of myself from him. A pretty big part of myself. That's why I'm here.
 

Medi-tator

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Hi MuleJule!

They teach us at the K-Hall that empathy is "your pain / my heart". That is absolutely how I feel about your situation, but you are the one living it and words sometimes are just not enough. For example, I would like to say "hang in there" but those are such empty words. However those empty words actually did work in my case as you can see by Driven (my wife) and her much appreciated escape from the asylum. As things get stranger, less logical and less practical (see paragraph 15 of the February 2022 issue of WT on our JW App, article entitled "Do You Trust In Jehovah's Way of Doing Things?"), it is quite likely your husband's eyes will be opened more fully to accept the fact that "in order for things to change, he has to change" (non-witness worldly saying). So yes, hang in there please and just keep letting your light shine. Jehovah will answer your prayers in due course. I hope you know that to be true! Have a nice a peaceful weekend!
 

MuleJule

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Hi MuleJule!

They teach us at the K-Hall that empathy is "your pain / my heart". That is absolutely how I feel about your situation, but you are the one living it and words sometimes are just not enough. For example, I would like to say "hang in there" but those are such empty words. However those empty words actually did work in my case as you can see by Driven (my wife) and her much appreciated escape from the asylum. As things get stranger, less logical and less practical (see paragraph 15 of the February 2022 issue of WT on our JW App, article entitled "Do You Trust In Jehovah's Way of Doing Things?"), it is quite likely your husband's eyes will be opened more fully to accept the fact that "in order for things to change, he has to change" (non-witness worldly saying). So yes, hang in there please and just keep letting your light shine. Jehovah will answer your prayers in due course. I hope you know that to be true! Have a nice a peaceful weekend!
Wow. Thank you for those genuinely loving and insightful words. I really appreciate that. I have read that article and I am preparing myself for what's coming. My husband is (so far) resisting the injections and has doubts about this whole "pandemic" but he is 100% bowing to the GB. I know waking up is a very gradual process for some people, and I am being patient, giving him little truth bombs here and there. He is also patient with me and my "crazy conspiracy theories!" The thing that really blows my mind is for the entirety of our marriage he was inactive, and all I wanted was for him to be serving Jehovah beside me. Now that I am going through what I am going through, he has decided he's jumping in to the truth, suddenly Mr. spiritual head. What a paradox.
 

Medi-tator

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Wow. Thank you for those genuinely loving and insightful words. I really appreciate that. I have read that article and I am preparing myself for what's coming. My husband is (so far) resisting the injections and has doubts about this whole "pandemic" but he is 100% bowing to the GB. I know waking up is a very gradual process for some people, and I am being patient, giving him little truth bombs here and there. He is also patient with me and my "crazy conspiracy theories!" The thing that really blows my mind is for the entirety of our marriage he was inactive, and all I wanted was for him to be serving Jehovah beside me. Now that I am going through what I am going through, he has decided he's jumping in to the truth, suddenly Mr. spiritual head. What a paradox.
Your husband is indeed changing. He just needs to KEEP changing LOL. I love the fact that you are "giving him little truth bombs"! When he finally arrives here on this forum, please have him name himself "Mr. Spiritual Head" LOL
 

יהוה_saves

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Wow. Thank you for those genuinely loving and insightful words. I really appreciate that. I have read that article and I am preparing myself for what's coming. My husband is (so far) resisting the injections and has doubts about this whole "pandemic" but he is 100% bowing to the GB. I know waking up is a very gradual process for some people, and I am being patient, giving him little truth bombs here and there. He is also patient with me and my "crazy conspiracy theories!" The thing that really blows my mind is for the entirety of our marriage he was inactive, and all I wanted was for him to be serving Jehovah beside me. Now that I am going through what I am going through, he has decided he's jumping in to the truth, suddenly Mr. spiritual head. What a paradox.
the thing is, if he is 100% bowing to the gov body then how can he be resisting the injections? Or he still thinks that it’s a personal decision? I have run into JWs that still think it’s a personal decision, or perhaps i’m wrong and they think it’s both a personal decision AND in compliance to the gov body’s wishes. The whole thing is confusing actually.

I hope your husband comes around. He simply MUST keep rejecting these injections and not comply just because someone else wants him to. that would be a tragedy. Yes Mr Spiritual Head is a great name for him. haha
 

surfergirl

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Thanks for sharing your story. Everyone here is at a point where we realize that the Watchtower is just a stepping stone. There is light and truth and life beyond.
That is so encouraging! :) I do feel so much freedom, now that I am not attending meetings. And we really do need hope to be emphasized now that we have escaped from the tyranny of an apostate GB. Thank you so much for pointing this out!!! There REALLY is light and truth and life beyond.!
 
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MuleJule

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the thing is, if he is 100% bowing to the gov body then how can he be resisting the injections? Or he still thinks that it’s a personal decision? I have run into JWs that still think it’s a personal decision, or perhaps i’m wrong and they think it’s both a personal decision AND in compliance to the gov body’s wishes. The whole thing is confusing actually.

I hope your husband comes around. He simply MUST keep rejecting these injections and not comply just because someone else wants him to. that would be a tragedy. Yes Mr Spiritual Head is a great name for him. haha
Yes exactly. He believes it is still a personal decision. His grandma asked him yesterday if he has gotten the injection yet and he told her he is not answering that question because it is nobody's business. I explained to him that I agree, but that in my parent's congregation the elders are not letting my dad participate in KH maintenance or assisting the elderly becaue he isn't injected, so it's getting to the point where if you don't comply, you will be casted aside.
 

Sarah

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Hi MuleJule!

They teach us at the K-Hall that empathy is "your pain / my heart". That is absolutely how I feel about your situation, but you are the one living it and words sometimes are just not enough. For example, I would like to say "hang in there" but those are such empty words. However those empty words actually did work in my case as you can see by Driven (my wife) and her much appreciated escape from the asylum. As things get stranger, less logical and less practical (see paragraph 15 of the February 2022 issue of WT on our JW App, article entitled "Do You Trust In Jehovah's Way of Doing Things?"), it is quite likely your husband's eyes will be opened more fully to accept the fact that "in order for things to change, he has to change" (non-witness worldly saying). So yes, hang in there please and just keep letting your light shine. Jehovah will answer your prayers in due course. I hope you know that to be true! Have a nice a peaceful weekend!
Do you have a link to that article? I can’t seem to find it..thanks 😊
 
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