Driven crazy!

I wouldn’t read anything on the website until my desperation from this vaccine issue. Now that I’ve read it, I realize that timing is everything. I could not have accepted the message before realizing that the GB was apostate.

@Driven I was the same. I never would have dreamed of coming here or reading Robert's website before that. I'm an old die-hard and my love for the organization runs deep, so for me to be here is really something. But my love for Jehovah and for the truth runs much deeper.

Thank you for telling your story!
 
Yes exactly. He believes it is still a personal decision. His grandma asked him yesterday if he has gotten the injection yet and he told her he is not answering that question because it is nobody's business. I explained to him that I agree, but that in my parent's congregation the elders are not letting my dad participate in KH maintenance or assisting the elderly becaue he isn't injected, so it's getting to the point where if you don't comply, you will be casted aside.
wow. unbelievable they won’t let him do those jobs. shocking really.
 
That is so encouraging! :) I do feel so much freedom, now that I am not attending meetings. And we really do need hope to be emphasized now that we have escaped from the tyranny of an apostate GB. Thank you so much for pointing this out!!! There REALLY is light and truth and life beyond.!
Yes, there is real freedom in worshipping Jehovah. I too feel more free now.
 
Yes exactly. He believes it is still a personal decision. His grandma asked him yesterday if he has gotten the injection yet and he told her he is not answering that question because it is nobody's business. I explained to him that I agree, but that in my parent's congregation the elders are not letting my dad participate in KH maintenance or assisting the elderly becaue he isn't injected, so it's getting to the point where if you don't comply, you will be casted aside.
Yes it’s true what you are saying. A while back in the pre-meeting Zoom conversations, an anointed sister was asking the group if they were all vaccinated and it’s showing wisdom like Proverbs says to get your vaccine. I said what about health decisions being a personal matter and each one will carry his own load? It got REAL quiet. Then the next local needs talk was that if someone upsets you, don’t say anything just leave it in Jehovah’s hands. I had to laugh, as if that would intimidate me! So, they no longer talk about the vaccine online but they do extoll the video updates as if its Jehovah speaking directly to us. In private conversations when it turns to the vaccine, I tell them in no uncertain terms that I am not vaccinated, do not intend to ever get vaccinated and I am 100% confident in that decision. They then say “OH!” and get real quiet. It is never mentioned again. But from what I have heard, they do think the GB is divinely directed and they do think the GB has said the vaccine is safe and so it is to them. It looks to me like the GB is the new Pope and I left the last organization that had a Pope and I have no intention of following a new Pope, even if he/they go by a different name.
 
Yes it’s true what you are saying. A while back in the pre-meeting Zoom conversations, an anointed sister was asking the group if they were all vaccinated and it’s showing wisdom like Proverbs says to get your vaccine. I said what about health decisions being a personal matter and each one will carry his own load? It got REAL quiet. Then the next local needs talk was that if someone upsets you, don’t say anything just leave it in Jehovah’s hands. I had to laugh, as if that would intimidate me! So, they no longer talk about the vaccine online but they do extoll the video updates as if its Jehovah speaking directly to us. In private conversations when it turns to the vaccine, I tell them in no uncertain terms that I am not vaccinated, do not intend to ever get vaccinated and I am 100% confident in that decision. They then say “OH!” and get real quiet. It is never mentioned again. But from what I have heard, they do think the GB is divinely directed and they do think the GB has said the vaccine is safe and so it is to them. It looks to me like the GB is the new Pope and I left the last organization that had a Pope and I have no intention of following a new Pope, even if he/they go by a different name.
I find people whom are obsessed with knowing whether others have had their vaccine, are frankly asking primarily and foremost because they are frightened to death of being alone in having made such an imbecellic decision themselves. Tho in fairness an elderly being afraid to die, may want the jab in fear...but why worry about what others do? So as not to feel alone in their decision. Ironically, you'd think the seemingly "anointed sister" would want to get Co-Vid to get the hell off planet earth ASAP and see the face of God finally whilst not being so worried of death.
 
I find people whom are obsessed with knowing whether others have had their vaccine, are frankly asking primarily and foremost because they are frightened to death of being alone in having made such an imbecellic decision themselves. Tho in fairness an elderly being afraid to die, may want the jab in fear...but why worry about what others do? So as not to feel alone in their decision. Ironically, you'd think the seemingly "anointed sister" would want to get Co-Vid to get the hell off planet earth ASAP and see the face of God finally whilst not being so worried of death.
Yes, and I have to wonder what happened to “be courageous“?
 
I initially didn’t want to write anything personal about me, but I did enjoy all of the others who told us something about themselves and so I thought I’d put a few things on this thread. I was born in 1955 in a Catholic Family. I once asked a Catholic Priest, how do you know that Catholicism is the true religion? His answer was that it was because they taught the Trinity. I was only about 9 years old at the time and so I just accepted that. But then as I grew up I realized that pretty much all “christian” religions teach the Trinity. At 19 years old I wanted to study the bible, but back then, the Catholic church didn’t really have bible studies. Instead of telling me, “no, Catholics don’t do that”, they just said “no bible studies at this time.” So, I spent several days calling many different Catholic Churches with the same response. I gave up and tried to read the bible on my own, but gave up on that too. Couldn’t get past the lineage without falling asleep. So, I put my spiritual hunger on ignore, got married had a family and then divorced.

My first husband was Pentecostal (holy roller) and by then I was very suspicious of “religious” people having seen so much hypocrisy. But I gave it an honest look and realized that it was all garbage. And, it had no effect on my first husband, with the exception of making him more of a fake. By the way, he turned into a drug addict, a criminal and he died a few years ago from a drug overdose. This not a bible quote but still a true saying: “Those who live without discipline, die without dignity.”

A very kind sister found me door to door at a time when I was out of work. I was very cautious but agreed to a bible study. Then she surprised me by bringing her husband, which really threw up the red flags to me since I did not trust men (both my father and my husband were abusers.). But I listened and the brother was very kind and humble. I could not deny that the bible was true. The puzzle pieces fit and it had the ring of truth. Something I realize today too when reading Robert’s book and his comments on the daily texts. So, off I went as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

My children were pre-teens when I came into the truth. My fleshly family abandoned and opposed me for becoming one of Jehovah’s Witnesses and my ex-husband’s family also opposed everything taught by Jehovah‘s Witnesses. My children fell under their influence and rejected the truth of the bible and they rejected me because of it, down to this day. But I met Medi-Tator at the weekly book study in 1995 and we got married in short order. We were both in Southern California at that time but Medi-Tator missed living in Hawaii and so when the opportunity presented itself, he returned to live in Hawaii and brought me with him in 1999 and we’ve been here ever since.

I have been plodding along in the truth until this vax fiasco. I always knew it was knowledge of God’s word that would prevent me from becoming prey to spiritual wolves and that has proven true and so here I am. My husband has a daughter from his first marriage and she is a full-time worker for LDC the building work. Her husband is a contractor and Elder. They are both vaccinated but she was coerced into getting it and now does not want to talk about it. Most recently she has had a bad ”cold” for about 2 weeks and we are hoping that she won’t be permanently damaged by the vaccine. She took many health remedies and procedures to remove the spike protein but we will see how it goes and we hope she will not get the booster.

My husband found Robert’s site years ago and I just thought my husband had apostate leanings. My husband actually had many more years in the truth than I had and recognized the beginnings of this apostasy long ago, which was really a stumbling block to him making progress in the truth. I wouldn’t read anything on the website until my desperation from this vaccine issue. Now that I’ve read it, I realize that timing is everything. I could not have accepted the message before realizing that the GB was apostate. So, you are now up to date. Thank you for reading.
This is us too, the vaccine triggered the flood of back burner queries and a close look. We knew that the blood fractions had to be available from someone breaking Jehovahs law on blood - donating and storing - and wrote off to Bethel but got no real answer just fobbed off but thought well we can choose to refuse it. Now we think this may have been the marking work starting as we all carry in our bags YES I will accept fractions or NO I wont. A decision made not to benefit from the sins of others. Now the vaccine and the benefitting from the sin of abortion. Only this time it was mandated. Yes I believe the timing was right. Interesting that the marking by the man with inkhorn is going on at same time as the marking by wild beast. Inkhorn man only starts after sacrifices at the sanctuary had ceased aka field service. This stopped mar 13 2020. its all happening so fast I can feel it.
Nice meeting you x
 
This is us too, the vaccine triggered the flood of back burner queries and a close look. We knew that the blood fractions had to be available from someone breaking Jehovahs law on blood - donating and storing - and wrote off to Bethel but got no real answer just fobbed off but thought well we can choose to refuse it. Now we think this may have been the marking work starting as we all carry in our bags YES I will accept fractions or NO I wont. A decision made not to benefit from the sins of others. Now the vaccine and the benefitting from the sin of abortion. Only this time it was mandated. Yes I believe the timing was right. Interesting that the marking by the man with inkhorn is going on at same time as the marking by wild beast. Inkhorn man only starts after sacrifices at the sanctuary had ceased aka field service. This stopped mar 13 2020. its all happening so fast I can feel it.
Nice meeting you x
Thank you. Important points that you are making. Thank you.
 
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Thank you. Important points that you are making. Thank you.
Actually we - me included- go on about free will and personal choice but really the GB should have rejected it at the beginning. Not given us the choice. I wrote them and they admitted that aborted cells were in the jabs but not many and JW's did not kill the babies. They knew we were sharers of the sins of others....
So they knew this from the outset and did not warn anyone but increased pressure to take it.
 
I initially didn’t want to write anything personal about me, but I did enjoy all of the others who told us something about themselves and so I thought I’d put a few things on this thread. I was born in 1955 in a Catholic Family. I once asked a Catholic Priest, how do you know that Catholicism is the true religion? His answer was that it was because they taught the Trinity. I was only about 9 years old at the time and so I just accepted that. But then as I grew up I realized that pretty much all “christian” religions teach the Trinity. At 19 years old I wanted to study the bible, but back then, the Catholic church didn’t really have bible studies. Instead of telling me, “no, Catholics don’t do that”, they just said “no bible studies at this time.” So, I spent several days calling many different Catholic Churches with the same response. I gave up and tried to read the bible on my own, but gave up on that too. Couldn’t get past the lineage without falling asleep. So, I put my spiritual hunger on ignore, got married had a family and then divorced.

My first husband was Pentecostal (holy roller) and by then I was very suspicious of “religious” people having seen so much hypocrisy. But I gave it an honest look and realized that it was all garbage. And, it had no effect on my first husband, with the exception of making him more of a fake. By the way, he turned into a drug addict, a criminal and he died a few years ago from a drug overdose. This not a bible quote but still a true saying: “Those who live without discipline, die without dignity.”

A very kind sister found me door to door at a time when I was out of work. I was very cautious but agreed to a bible study. Then she surprised me by bringing her husband, which really threw up the red flags to me since I did not trust men (both my father and my husband were abusers.). But I listened and the brother was very kind and humble. I could not deny that the bible was true. The puzzle pieces fit and it had the ring of truth. Something I realize today too when reading Robert’s book and his comments on the daily texts. So, off I went as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

My children were pre-teens when I came into the truth. My fleshly family abandoned and opposed me for becoming one of Jehovah’s Witnesses and my ex-husband’s family also opposed everything taught by Jehovah‘s Witnesses. My children fell under their influence and rejected the truth of the bible and they rejected me because of it, down to this day. But I met Medi-Tator at the weekly book study in 1995 and we got married in short order. We were both in Southern California at that time but Medi-Tator missed living in Hawaii and so when the opportunity presented itself, he returned to live in Hawaii and brought me with him in 1999 and we’ve been here ever since.

I have been plodding along in the truth until this vax fiasco. I always knew it was knowledge of God’s word that would prevent me from becoming prey to spiritual wolves and that has proven true and so here I am. My husband has a daughter from his first marriage and she is a full-time worker for LDC the building work. Her husband is a contractor and Elder. They are both vaccinated but she was coerced into getting it and now does not want to talk about it. Most recently she has had a bad ”cold” for about 2 weeks and we are hoping that she won’t be permanently damaged by the vaccine. She took many health remedies and procedures to remove the spike protein but we will see how it goes and we hope she will not get the booster.

My husband found Robert’s site years ago and I just thought my husband had apostate leanings. My husband actually had many more years in the truth than I had and recognized the beginnings of this apostasy long ago, which was really a stumbling block to him making progress in the truth. I wouldn’t read anything on the website until my desperation from this vaccine issue. Now that I’ve read it, I realize that timing is everything. I could not have accepted the message before realizing that the GB was apostate. So, you are now up to date. Thank you for reading.
I assumed brother Medi-tater was related to brother potato. Not sure why. Anyway, so pleased you are here.
 
Hi Driven
its really good to hear your story,
The same theme seems to apply to many of us who were not from JW families, we all seemed to be seeking answers about life and something moved us to start reading the bible., it was as if by instinct we knew that it must have the answers.
I have come to believe that Jehovah has a timing/ trigger system for us all , whether it is waking up to bible truths or waking up to false doctrines, i was also born into a catholic family and learnt to chant prayers that i never understood, lead on by priests and nuns who could be quite frightening at times, but i woke up in my early thirties when i started reading the bible especially when i met A JW at work
i think the vaccine event is a massive wake up for many Jws and i reckon there is many more wake up events to come. especially within the WTO
But Jehovah does not waken people, whether it be to the bible as having answers, or to a person unknowingly following false teachings without providing answers to their new questions. hence Robert's work.
 
…But Jehovah does not waken people, whether it be to the bible as having answers, or to a person unknowingly following false teachings without providing answers to their new questions. hence Robert's work.
Great and encouraging point. Thank you.
 
Thank you for sharing..my husband became a JW after years of searching. He thinks I have issues with the gb/structure of the org because of my past and being brought up as a JW. It’s encouraging that you’ve seen issues now and your husband saw things a while ago. In fact today I was able to say something about 1914 and Jesus return without a cross word. Our neighbour said to him he believes the vaccine is to do with the mark of the beast, I agreed at least it’s a pre cursor, it turns out he’s a 7th day evangelist so I linked Russel with them and turned it to 1914 and said about Christ return not being invisible..who knows but drip feeding
Get the hose out!..Hee hee chortle, I admire your restraint. I start off drip drip then I'm reaching for the hose! It's now easy for me to be flippant because I have had a long time to heal from the family I brought into the truth shunned me. I have had time to grow without emotional entanglement. My tears hopefully have been rinsed on the matter!
 
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I wonder if this emphasis on not questioning GB is due precisely to the growing number of us who are doing exactly that. What I don't understand is why they are pushing so hard on this theme of the vax when medically the case has been made that this is harming so many. Unfortunately, they are opening up Pandora's box.

Our congregation will play the GB Update #1 in the meeting next week, even though I am sure many have already heard it. I am finding it difficult to stay in the room when they do this. I am glad it is a zoom meeting only.
 
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