First of all, forgive me if the sentence structure in English is not quite correct.
Where do I have faith in is your question; no, not in paradise and I will not mention that, even if it is just to please you in your discussion, I start from another abstract knowledge.
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I want you to know evw how appreciative I am that you spent the time to write what you did. I'm being totally serious. Many here have given up on this thread, yet you stuck it out, so I thank you. Not only did you stick it out, my goodness, it ignited a spark in you. I don't think I've ever seen, or heard in your words, so much passion. That tells me I'm on the right track. As I stated earlier, the simplest concepts are the hardest to grasp, because often times they are buried under so much other stuff that sits upon them, so I hope I am able to clear some things up for you.
My faith lies solely in Jehovah! From way before I had ever heard of God and certainly never heard His name.
If Jehovah
didn't exist, how would you know of him? Certainly, God has always been. For those with the ability to reason, such as yourself, you perceived through his creation that there was something more, even before you heard of God or ever heard his name, although I bet you wondered
who he was didn't you?
(Ro 10:14) “. . .How, in turn, will they put faith in him of whom they have not heard? . . .”
Evw, everything you speak of
already existed in order for you to put faith that there was a God. Thats what the scripture you provide is all about is it not? That through the things that
already exist, you can perceive his invisible qualities. Had those things not already existed, how could you ever perceive it to be so? Thus, because they already exist you knew there was
something more. This does nothing to disprove that 'it is impossible to know something that does not exist', but rather highlights the very truth within that statement.
Faith and knowledge, or to know something, are two distinct concepts yet share many common qualities with one another. They both involve belief or acceptance of something. They both can shape a person's worldview and play an influence in decision making. However, where faith is the assured expectation of things not yet seen, knowledge is the understanding of things gained through observation or experience. I understand the nuances these two concepts share, but you must acknowledge that the two are different.
The only reason you can have faith and knowledge of God, is
because he already exists.
The scriptures provide a perfect example of the very truth I speak about, in the story of Abraham and his son Isaac, when Jehovah told Abraham to offer his son up for a sacrifice. Most certainly
Jehovah had faith in Abraham, I'm sure all would agree, but he did not know or have knowledge yet of the loyalty that Abraham had. Once Abraham lifted the knife to sacrifice Isaac the angel stopped him, and this is what Jehovah said:
(Ge 22:12) “. . .for now I do know that you are God-fearing in that you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me. . .”
Although Jehovah is omniscient, or all knowing, when it comes to free will, and the choices we make, even he does not know what choice we will make, until we make them. Why? Because
we must first create the choice and do it. Until our choice exists as an actual action/creation he does not know. And in this case, Abrahams god-fearing loyalty was not known until Jehovah saw Abraham create the choice to bring the knife down.
This example underscores the very truth I am trying to convey to you, and the forum.
Adam & Eves decision is also another perfect example to highlight the fact that
it is impossible to know something that does not yet exist. Did Jehovah already know they would eat the fruit? No, because they had not made the decision to do it yet. Their decision, or choice,
did not exist prior to them making/creating it.
My question is: How do you come to the conclusion that evil is 'created'?
Certainly, you believe that evil exists. Evil
did not exist prior to sin; therefore, it must have been created. It does seem an easy conclusion to come to. However, how some here actually believe that evil did exist prior to sin is truly beyond me.
Nevertheless, everything you do is a creation evw. EVERYTHING!!! The first post of this thread covers this. There is nothing you do that is not a creation, or a direct result of one. Heart beating, lungs breathing, seeing, hearing, touching, feeling, thinking, doing, are ALL creations, or the result of a creation manifesting. You must understand this, as this too is a fundamental truth!
Many of those creations are subconscious, you do not need to think about them in order to create, they just do to keep you alive. However, we have been given the ability to create a thought and bring it into existence through our actions. Every action is a creation that has manifested through the individual.
Love, joy, peace, kindness, goodness...etc the fruitages of the spirit exist naturally within creation because they naturally exist as part of Jehovah from where we get our spirit. There is no law for these, because they are natural, and when we form(create) a thought and manifest it as an action, it can either reflect these fruitages of the spirit, or in the case of evil blocks it from reflecting.
The opposite of love, joy, peace, etc...is hate, sadness, conflict etc...and these things too are fruitages of our creations if we allow them to manifest into reality somehow. However,
there is law for these because they cause disharmony within creation, they are not natural, and those things must be destroyed because they go contrary to Gods purpose.
When Satan made/created the thought to go contrary to Gods purpose, and manifest that creation into reality through his action, he created evil. His action of lying to Eve was sourced from his desire to be like God and was first made(created) within his mind.
When you 'make' your mind up, the very word 'make' is describing what you are doing. To 'make' is to 'create', thus you create your mind up, or rather you create within your mind something you wish to manifest somehow. Somebody who is stubborn and has 'made' their mind up, who has built a wall, displays pride, and arrogance, haughtiness, etc... because those are the fruitages manifesting from what they have 'made/created' in their mind. We manifest our creations into existence when we display the characteristics/fruitages of that creation.
Your post has more I would like to cover, but for now, for the sake of keeping my words to a tolerable level for the forum, maybe in another post we can discuss them. This answer is already quite long indeed.