Is it too late for the Masses?

Jess

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Just listened to this short podcast (10 min). Mike relays that he believes it’s too late and the majority of people have already chosen their side in the battle of good/truth and evil/lies. Sure does feel that way at times to me! So in a way it felt validating. Feeling like the only awake one amongst so many asleep ones can certainly weigh you down and leave you feeling like there are no more willing to listen. But then again, in my heart I know we shouldn’t give up until Jehovah and Jesus have their final say. Anyway, a good listen. Minus the fact that Mike still believe in Hellfire 🥴

 

Truth_Seeker

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So shall you summon a nation you knew not, and a nation that knew you not shall run to you, Because of the Lord, your God, the Holy One of Israel, who has glorified you. Seek the Lord while he may be found, call upon him while he is near. Let the wicked forsake their way, and sinners their thoughts; Let them turn to the Lord to find mercy; to our God, who is generous in forgiving.
Isaiah 55:5‭-‬7
"and because of the increase of evildoing, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the world as a witness to all nations, and then the end will come. "
Matthew 24:12‭-‬14
For as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. In [those] days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day that Noah entered the ark. They did not know until the flood came and carried them all away. So will it be [also] at the coming of the Son of Man.
Matthew 24:37‭-‬39
 

PJ54

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When it comes down to it all, the majority never embraced the truth. Consider the two paths Jesus spoke of, one was narrow & the other was wide. Faith isn't a possession of all people as it is written. Plus, Paul did a comparison between the physical man & the spiritual man where the spiritual man understands the esoteric, whereas the physical man could not & had the mind of an animal. Most people in a way are not even real for that matter & cannot have the Spirit dwell within them. When you look in the eyes of a person your intuition can see things that might not make sense at first but it speaks volumes. Many people have a lifeless look, some look fake, & some look demon possessed. Then you have those who have life in their eyes & you can feel it as well as having a unique interaction with said person. Just some food for thought.
 
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Jess

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When you look in the eyes of a person your intuition can see things that might not make sense at first but it speaks volumes. Many people have a lifeless look, some look fake, & some look demon possessed. Then you have those who have life in their eyes & you can feel it as well as just have a unique interaction with said person. Just some food for thought.
Yes exactly! I feel this way on the daily out in public. It can feel lonely at times! I know there is a scripture about this…regarding the light in the eyes but can’t seem to find the one I was thinking of 🤔
 

Soul Sage

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The ones that can't say what a woman is. I think they're so far gone there is no hope for them. Jehovah has gave up on protecting them as they have become reprobates because they removed themselves from truth and reality on such a radical level. It's no wonder why many of them commit suicide eventually as Satan has gotten full control of their minds and actions which leads itself into destruction. But they love the lie. It's scary to think that we even have a supreme court judge who also supports this way. Kentaji Brown Jackson. Literally selling her soul to Satan to get that power by loving such obvious lies.
 

LifeLearning

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The ones that can't say what a woman is. I think they're so far gone there is no hope for them. Jehovah has gave up on protecting them as they have become reprobates because they removed themselves from truth and reality on such a radical level. It's no wonder why many of them commit suicide eventually as Satan has gotten full control of their minds and actions which leads itself into destruction. But they love the lie. It's scary to think that we even have a supreme court judge who also supports this way. Kentaji Brown Jackson. Literally selling her soul to Satan to get that power by loving such obvious lies.
Are you christian? If so, please read your post.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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Just listened to this short podcast (10 min). Mike relays that he believes it’s too late and the majority of people have already chosen their side in the battle of good/truth and evil/lies. Sure does feel that way at times to me! So in a way it felt validating. Feeling like the only awake one amongst so many asleep ones can certainly weigh you down and leave you feeling like there are no more willing to listen. But then again, in my heart I know we shouldn’t give up until Jehovah and Jesus have their final say. Anyway, a good listen. Minus the fact that Mike still believe in Hellfire 🥴

It’s a valid point, and it’s hardly surprising we can feel that way about the inertia we see in the congregations. Those who have woken to the lie are indeed isolated in thought if not physically. Some, it seems, hang on for reasons other than truth, because their whole family and the life they know are welded together. As we only have one crack at life, it is of no surprise that some are reluctant to change. (Frying pan - pot). Yet from what Jehovah says, it seems that terror will shake some awake. It is simply that at this point of time (some may wonder what on earth will move them), they have no idea what to do. Like a lost sheep in fact. The analogy used in the bible is indeed correct. I don’t want to use my own experience again, but it’s all I have - but when I saw the truth - the real truth - I was awake immediately. That is different that being informed immediately. Like hitting you thumb with a hammer; what you do about it is secondary to realising what has happened. Going back to the sheep analogy, sometimes it’s as easy to pull the wool off their eyes, as it is to pull the wool over their eyes. That’s the thing about sheep. They are woolly. The truth of the matter is simple. The heart rules the mind - not the other way around. And Jehovah is a reader of hearts.
 

Jess

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Sounds like you misunderstood my post. I re read it. It seems fine to me, no errors. And of course I'm Christian. If you can't understand maybe you're the one that is delusional. Why do you question my Christianity?
I am unsure myself as to what the issue is as I don’t understand it either 🤷🏼‍♀️ Either way, things seem to get lost in translation on this site but in such cases seems always better to ask for clarification than to throw accusations. Colossians 4:6.
 

BagdadBill

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Are you christian? If so, please read your post.
There is a religion in this world that hates God. Most of them don't even know they are part of a religion and have been led to believe that they just don't like that Jesus stuff. Those darn bible thumpers anyway. I thump me some bible and I smile when someone calls me that. I am not however, a holy roller. I have never rolled in the aisle but John Belushi did it very well in Blues Brothers. These people pushing the transgender and transhuman agenda are corrupting God's creation. Not just humans either. They are genetically altering and corrupting food/seed, the animal kingdom and everything that has Jehovah's signature on it. They are organized and effective but more important is they have learned from their mistakes and have plenty of money to buy influence.
These people are pretty much lost for good but I won't say that some don't have the chance to be pulled out of the fire, just that it isn't likely.
Once they get deep into the agenda they usually can't see truth or refuse to. Hence the question and new movie "What is a woman?"
Not surprising, most people refused to answer the question. Most of these people know the answer. They know that women don't have a penis but still they refuse to answer with truth. Satan has worked his way into the highest judicial court in America. Something that many people revere as the final say in justice and truth. It has been corrupted just like everything else on this planet. Can they be saved?
Hard to say. You cannot wake someone who is only pretending to be asleep.

Truth only comes from Jehovah God.
 

Ms_ladyblue

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When it comes down to it all, the majority never embraced the truth. Consider the two paths Jesus spoke of, one was narrow & the other was wide. Faith isn't a possession of all people as it is written. Plus, Paul did a comparison between the physical man & the spiritual man where the spiritual man understands the esoteric, whereas the physical man could not & had the mind of an animal. Most people in a way are not even real for that matter & cannot have the Spirit dwell within them. When you look in the eyes of a person your intuition can see things that might not make sense at first but it speaks volumes. Many people have a lifeless look, some look fake, & some look demon possessed. Then you have those who have life in their eyes & you can feel it as well as having a unique interaction with said person. Just some food for thought.
@PJ54

There is definitely truth in what you say about most people not being real, nor have the Spirit.
Then add to that the wearing of facial masks.

When the government at first ’mandated’ masks, going out in public and seeing everyone wearing them blew my mind! It was one of the strangest things I’ve ever had to witness.

On watching them every time I got out, that lifeless look was even more evident. It made me think that this surely has to be demon inspired. Even when interacting with witnesses in public it was, at best, distant and brief. Even now the same holds true.
And I thought, since when do most witnesses not have much to say??? 😦

It sure is a different world we live in now….
I pray for the “real life” Jehovah promises will come soon.
 

Ms_ladyblue

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The ones that can't say what a woman is. I think they're so far gone there is no hope for them. Jehovah has gave up on protecting them as they have become reprobates because they removed themselves from truth and reality on such a radical level. It's no wonder why many of them commit suicide eventually as Satan has gotten full control of their minds and actions which leads itself into destruction. But they love the lie. It's scary to think that we even have a supreme court judge who also supports this way. Kentaji Brown Jackson. Literally selling her soul to Satan to get that power by loving such obvious lies.
@Soul Sage

After I read your comment it reminded me of the first chapter in Romans that a brother and I recently read together and discussed.
Particularly verses 18-21.

“For God’s wrath is being revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who are suppressing the truth in an unrighteous way, because what may be known about God is clearly evident among them, for God made it clear to them.
For his invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable.
For although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty headed in their reasonings and their senseless hearts became darkened.”
 
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BARNABY THE DOG.

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@PJ54

There is definitely truth in what you say about most people not being real, nor have the Spirit.
Then add to that the wearing of facial masks.

When the government at first ’mandated’ masks, going out in public and seeing everyone wearing them blew my mind! It was one of the strangest things I’ve ever had to witness.

On watching them every time I got out, that lifeless look was even more evident. It made me think that this surely has to be demon inspired. Even when interacting with witnesses in public it was, at best, distant and brief. Even now the same holds true.
And I thought, since when do most witnesses not have much to say??? 😦

It sure is a different world we live in now….
I pray for the “real life” Jehovah promises will come soon.
I think context and our faith is an influence in our thinking and reasoning. Not that such is wrong of course. That is not what I refer to. In Japan for instance, wearing a mask - since the Industrial Age of Japan and before, was a matter of politeness when the person was ill. The same is done in western areas (and in a great many other areas) by covering the mouth when one coughs or sneezes. Likewise, when looking at others, the eyes are only part of our critique of that person in initiating and negotiating contact. Thus to see the eyes only denies us many signals as to their mood, intent and thus civility. Yes, they can look dead - and threatening. It is one of the major areas of discomfort for westerners in contact with Muslim women - let alone what it is like for the woman herself. So don’t let the mask spoil your day. There are plenty of happy people out there scared witless (or Witness!), so don’t let yourself get dragged down. The mask robs us of our senses gained of sight. I had the similar problem throughout my working career, when people were angry that I did not phone them. So when they came to the office to tear me off a strip, I would take my hearing aids out and let them communicate with me. So they shouted. When that didn’t work, they had to resort to writing. Then the gestures started, and then in the last stages of exasperation, they started drawing. Then, sometimes, they understood, and at a basic level that is the lesson. What people do not see, they assume. That is one of the toxic issues of wearing a mask.👍😀
 

Ms_ladyblue

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I think context and our faith is an influence in our thinking and reasoning. Not that such is wrong of course. That is not what I refer to. In Japan for instance, wearing a mask - since the Industrial Age of Japan and before, was a matter of politeness when the person was ill. The same is done in western areas (and in a great many other areas) by covering the mouth when one coughs or sneezes. Likewise, when looking at others, the eyes are only part of our critique of that person in initiating and negotiating contact. Thus to see the eyes only denies us many signals as to their mood, intent and thus civility. Yes, they can look dead - and threatening. It is one of the major areas of discomfort for westerners in contact with Muslim women - let alone what it is like for the woman herself. So don’t let the mask spoil your day. There are plenty of happy people out there scared witless (or Witness!), so don’t let yourself get dragged down. The mask robs us of our senses gained of sight. I had the similar problem throughout my working career, when people were angry that I did not phone them. So when they came to the office to tear me off a strip, I would take my hearing aids out and let them communicate with me. So they shouted. When that didn’t work, they had to resort to writing. Then the gestures started, and then in the last stages of exasperation, they started drawing. Then, sometimes, they understood, and at a basic level that is the lesson. What people do not see, they assume. That is one of the toxic issues of wearing a mask.👍😀
BTD

I understand what you’re saying perfectly but because we live in a society (in my case, the USA) that had, up until March 2020 were pretty much going along with their daily norms. True, we’ve been slowly dumbed down, becoming more deficient in showing fellow feeling, but like you said there were and still are plenty of happy people out there.

Yes, in Japan as well as among the Muslim women they need to cover their face, but for the most part that’s a choice they make.
After March 2020 that all changed and worldwide we were, in my opinion, forced ( mentally) to wear a mask and amazingly EVERYONE complied. But of course that gradually ended as reports were coming in that masks were useless. I know for a fact that we were under the influence of a psychological operation and truly believe this. And to me that explains a lot.

Why most were affected and others weren’t I’m not too sure but I do know that up until 2020 mankind was being conditioned to accept whatever directions the governments wanted to put on them and these same directions were further reinforced on our brothers and sisters by the GB.

It is also worth taking note of what the apostle Paul said in Ephesians 6:10-13. But I wanted to particularly highlight verse 12:
”because we have a struggle, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.”

As for me letting it drag me down, I never allowed that to happen. I was just expressing my added thought to PJ’s comment about how people have become unreal, having a lifeless look.
On seeing all this so called ‘new normal’ from the beginning I then would look but I learned to live with it lest I go insane.
Just put it in the back of my mind and keep stepping. We all have our own way of dealing with this madness around us if we want to stay alive right? 👍🏼 🤗
 
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Driven

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Just listened to this short podcast (10 min). Mike relays that he believes it’s too late and the majority of people have already chosen their side in the battle of good/truth and evil/lies. Sure does feel that way at times to me! So in a way it felt validating. Feeling like the only awake one amongst so many asleep ones can certainly weigh you down and leave you feeling like there are no more willing to listen. But then again, in my heart I know we shouldn’t give up until Jehovah and Jesus have their final say. Anyway, a good listen. Minus the fact that Mike still believe in Hellfire 🥴

Hi Jess, Don’t forget that the preaching work actually accomplishes 2 things. One is a witness and the other is a warning. Jehovah and his son call people to them or they don’t. And, even that can change with changing circumstances because circumstances can soften hearts. But even if our preaching only accomplishes a warning to others, that is for Jehovah and Jesus to decide.
 
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