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StillA_WorshiperOfJah

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Is there away to do a 'Freedom of Information Request' or the USA equivalent to find out how many died with covid as opposed to of covid, and what the mortality rate among JWs was in the previous years, etc?
 

Jess

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Not to be gross but when these poor folks are growing these fibrous masses inside their arteries, it's just a matter of time before they drop.
I'm wondering if these "clots" that embalmer Richard Hirschman is pulling out of the circulatory systems of injection victims is some new form of circulatory system cancer. It certainly seems so.
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ITS JUST SO EVIL 😞
 

Sunshower

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I want to be united with the congregation, but I would have to drink myself silly to be able to associate.
I feel so disconnected from my congregation. When I meet brs and srs ons the street I’m having trouble to even have a simple conversation. My innocence and openness has vanished. I always hugged everyone and now they treat you like a leper and they don’t even know I haven’t taken the jab. But they took it! Aren’t they supposed to be safe and protected?

I don’t go to the hall, haven’t been able to for ten years because of a medical condition. But more important I refuse to wear a harmful mask. And I know people are genuinely happy that they can physically meet again but I can’t get over the hypocrisy that they could have gotten together all along If the GB had shown some backbone.
 

יהוה_saves

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@Sunshower

I’m sorry this has happened and it has hurt you. It’s so bad.

I ran into a brother in a parking lot back in ~ March of 2021 and i used to be really close to him and his wife- he was an elder in my hall but he had moved to a different hall and was now an elder in that hall- i was genuinely happy to see him- he invited me to his apartment for coffee with him and his wife and then he says: but i need to ask- are you vaccinated? I didn't answer him. I made a couple comments and the. i asked him how many of these injections was he going to take? I didn't go have coffee with him.

this has just turned people into stupid zombies. But Jehovah’s people? I never would have thought in a million years this would happen in Christ’s congregation. I guess i didn’t pay enough attention to the bible until now.
 

Chloe

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We had a similar situation a couple of days ago with a brother. When you mention the vax and the problems it is causing they just can’t see it. I think it is the same sort of mind blindness that stops people from understanding the truth from the Bible.
 

Jah-son

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We had a similar situation a couple of days ago with a brother. When you mention the vax and the problems it is causing they just can’t see it. I think it is the same sort of mind blindness that stops people from understanding the truth from the Bible.
Very much so. The technical term is
Cognitive dissonance - a term for the state of discomfort felt when two or more modes of thought contradict each other. The clashing cognitions may include ideas, beliefs, or the knowledge that one has behaved in a certain way.

When one learns new information that challenges a deeply held belief, for example, or acts in a way that seems to undercut a favorable self-image, that person may feel motivated to somehow resolve the negative feeling that results—to restore cognitive consonance. Though a person may not always resolve cognitive dissonance, the response to it may range from ignoring the source of it to changing one’s beliefs or behavior to eliminate the conflict.​

 

Jah-son

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Very much so. The technical term is
Cognitive dissonance - a term for the state of discomfort felt when two or more modes of thought contradict each other. The clashing cognitions may include ideas, beliefs, or the knowledge that one has behaved in a certain way.

When one learns new information that challenges a deeply held belief, for example, or acts in a way that seems to undercut a favorable self-image, that person may feel motivated to somehow resolve the negative feeling that results—to restore cognitive consonance. Though a person may not always resolve cognitive dissonance, the response to it may range from ignoring the source of it to changing one’s beliefs or behavior to eliminate the conflict.​

Most of us had to deal with CD when we first studies the Bible with JWs and challenged previously held beliefs. And now again when confronted with the apostasy of the org. I know I struggled with CD after the 2021 GB updates...I struggled hard! Thank Jehovah for "setting things straight."
 

Jah-son

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Yes ,in fact he couldn’t get away from us fast enough, after implying that we were being unfaithful to the governing body for not taking the vax. He’s got his fourth jab due. Can’t help these people.
Fully deluded, drinking the kool-aid...quite literally...on his 4th glass. So sad that their loyalty to the blind guides will likely be the death of many of them. So the story goes I guess. Some things never change.
 

Sunshower

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Yes ,in fact he couldn’t get away from us fast enough, after implying that we were being unfaithful to the governing body for not taking the vax. He’s got his fourth jab due. Can’t help these people.
I remember a couple of years ago we heard the example of the glass of water with one drop of poison in it. “Would you drink it” asked the brother on the stage. Everyone shook their head, of course not.
So why is the majority taking this jab now? Didn’t we all say no to the drop of poison? Or is it okay when Mr Jones from the GB tells you to drink it?
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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I feel so disconnected from my congregation. When I meet brs and srs ons the street I’m having trouble to even have a simple conversation. My innocence and openness has vanished. I always hugged everyone and now they treat you like a leper and they don’t even know I haven’t taken the jab. But they took it! Aren’t they supposed to be safe and protected?

I don’t go to the hall, haven’t been able to for ten years because of a medical condition. But more important I refuse to wear a harmful mask. And I know people are genuinely happy that they can physically meet again but I can’t get over the hypocrisy that they could have gotten together all along If the GB had shown some backbone.
We must all expect to be ignored, shunned, reviled by those we love and have loved. What it transpires into is far, far better. When a person becomes free of the bonds that bound them, it is really very much the same as tipping the fulcrum to the other side. Physical becomes spiritual, loss in gathering together, becomes a realisation of being gathered to Jehovah. Contributions are spiritual, prayerful, responsive of the heart and the desire to come to know our Grand Creator. Not money to ‘build’ with. The loss of the world, becomes an unfathomable move into things spiritual. Your situation brings to mind the sojourn that Jesus took into the wilderness for 40 days to commune alone with his Father, Jehovah. The seclusion from the world forms an oasis of spiritual peace between ourselves and our creator. We all inwardly sense the loss of the watchtower, yet that in itself is part of being set free…a gift beyond value. Those we love, well, that’s different and we all go through loss and change in our lives, yet coming to understand the truth, is as emerging from the chrysalis, shedding the binding coat, to emerge into a life, yet to be appreciated. The watchtower treats those who leave as so much garbage, as they themselves illustrated, but what has emerged is more of an incomparable beauty that they cannot appreciate. Don’t look back at the city, and it’s inhabitants, move into the temple and greet those that are there. Others are yet to follow your lead I am sure.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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I remember a couple of years ago we heard the example of the glass of water with one drop of poison in it. “Would you drink it” asked the brother on the stage. Everyone shook their head, of course not.
So why is the majority taking this jab now? Didn’t we all say no to the drop of poison? Or is it okay when Mr Jones from the GB tells you to drink it?
Each example from the watchtower is in a context of its own meaning to the given issue being discussed. That is the beauty of the mindset and of control. Each aspect of loyalty to the watchtower, as I am sure you have noticed, is to fill the needs of the congregation. You do not need to be a witness to be deceived (gaslight), the same is true of any propaganda agenda. Thus, as you point out, each article of discussion from the watchtower, is provided with its solution, entirely unrelated of context. They do it with scripture, with conscience, with guilt, with need to be loved, and most cunning of all with sacrifice. The more you give, the more you are ‘respected’ (flattered), from reaching out, to giving talks, doing ministry over and above for longer than others, being there at every meeting and following what you are told. So yes, no drop of poison today, and then taking it the next because the “channel” says so.
 
Just to keep all you friends updated. A brother, who used to be the Presiding Overseer in my congregation but moved to an Illocano speaking congregation, had a heart attack this morning and is in critical condition. I have no doubt he was vaccinated since he is a “company man” through and through. I pray and hope that he recovers.

UPDATE: This Elder (brother) came through his surgery successfully and he now has a pace maker and stint. He is still in ICU for now.

Later Update: The family was informed that this brother will not make it. His heart was too damaged.

Final Update: Our brother died. Incredibly sad.
So Sad! I am still in utter shock that the GB pushed & continue to push the poison jab!
 

Driven

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So Sad! I am still in utter shock that the GB pushed & continue to push the poison jab!
There is even more I have heard about through the “coconut wireless” here in Hawaii but I don’t want to share what may be nothing more than a rumor. Really I only know the roughly 130 in my congregation and I don‘t know most of the brothers and sisters in the other congregations. But just from the web of friends that i do know, it is frightening for those who are vaccinated. And, yet I have not heard any are making the connection to the vaccine. In fact just Wednesday a sister that I spoke with tried to say that it was the result of a health issue the brother had prior to the vaccine. And, possibly true but that prior condition was probably why the brother should not have risked vaccination. Only Jehovah will be able to say for sure. Still, we can look at all-cause mortality since the start of the vaccines and it is off the charts. No honest person can deny that.
 
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