Lost and confused

This Video did it for me. If you understand the illuminati and how it's all apart of the New World Order...this to me is all you need to see. When I realized how much the illuminati had infiltrated Jehovah's Witnesses....I did my research. I googled....Jehovah's Witnesses and the illuminati.... this video popped up....I have never left this forum since. It all came together.
 
Citrine said:
Goldie we totally understand what you’re going through. My husband had several months of back and forth and yes it does feel like your whole world is turned upside down. Some need to process things emotionally and some are the just give me the facts type. The conclusion I came to was treating the GBs cvd actions like a court case.

1. Do I believe the vx was created to kill / depopulate? Yes
2. Did the GB wholeheartedly endorse the vx? Yes
3. Did the GB act like a mouthpiece for the CDC, WHO, and big Pharma? Yes
4. Did the GB have time to realize if they had made a ”mistake“? Yes. I’m gonna say 2 1/2 years is plenty of time - ain’t no mistake folks!
5. Did the GB put the elders effectively on a gag order to not say anything negative about the v? Yes
6. Did the GB offer any warnings about potential side effects or harm? No
7. Did the GB take into consideration each individual’s unique health circumstances? No it was a blanket vx for all young and old!
8. Did the GB state the vx direction came from Jehovah and Jesus? Yes
9. Does the GB continue to promote the v even after all the mounting evidence against them? Yes
10. Are people getting injured and dying from the v? Yes and this is easily verified by the CDCs own VAERS report - over 31k deaths so far reported but we know that’s only a fraction of the actual number.

I could go on and on but I see a smoking gun and I’m calling out the murderers. There is no way this was ”Jehovah’s direction” so that makes them liars on top of murderers. Case closed in my mind.
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Oh citrine I just noticed it was you who posted this, I thought it was coinlady. Wow u really broke it down ! Geez
 
Citrine said:
I could go on and on but I see a smoking gun and I’m calling out the murderers. There is no way this was ”Jehovah’s direction” so that makes them liars on top of murderers. Case closed in my mind.
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You are absolutely right. Jehovah foresaw it 2,700 years before it happened. Pretty impressive. Back when I first started writing I had assumed that the various prophecies that spoke about the blood guilt and murder committed by the priests and leaders was figurative, perhaps wrongfully disfellowshipping or stumbling others thereby inflicting a spiritual death upon the innocent. Now, it is apparent that the murder is literal. I posted this article about a year ago: Your Hands Are Filled with Blood
 
goldie said:
I was just wondering what the turning point was for each of you when you decided to leave the org?
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It started on March 15 2020 - 932 days ago from today

The day my group overseer call
To cancel meetings and service

He asked me to use prayful study Isaiah 30:15
And I did
I didn't understand it but that was the moment I started to wake up

All I can focus on is the part that said "but you were unwilling"

Now I can clearly understand it
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Instead of "being calm and resting on Jehovah" the gb trusted in men and in human schemes with c-19 project warp speed just as Jehovah said they would

Once I seen this I cried and woke-up

www.jamaicaobserver.com

Trust science and take the jab, Jehovah's Witnesses urge Jamaicans

Jehovah's Witnesses were not among the five major religious groups that two weeks ago gave support to the Government's COVID-19 vaccination programme; however, the millenarian restorationist Chri...
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I felt like Daniel of old, Trusting and resting on Jehovah instead of getting the jab
 

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I am still in as a PIMO elder for the most part at this time(have a few reasons). However, my conscious is very bothered by what goes on, and have to work very hard to walk a tightrope given the flow of diarrhea we get now. Citrine is right on point. Not sure how long can keep this up, last years updates nearly got me. Waiting for the next big shoe to drop, I feel like it will. They are way off the rails now
 
Eventhorizon said:
I am still in as a PIMO elder for the most part at this time(have a few reasons). However, my conscious is very bothered by what goes on, and have to work very hard to walk a tightrope given the flow of diarrhea we get now. Citrine is right on point. Not sure how long can keep this up, last years updates nearly got me. Waiting for the next big shoe to drop, I feel like it will. They are way off the rails now
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Thanks eventhorizon, please what is pimo elder mean?
 
Medi-tator said:
For me it was the first spin on "this generation" in October of 1995 that started my WT declining awareness. But that was not nearly enough at the time, but it got the ball rolling for me. After a couple of new-light adjustments to "this generation", I was getting very disturbed. They had it wrong about 1914 and could not or refused to admit it!

By 2003 I was about to chuck it all. I became what I thought was desperate, desperate enough to do a Google search for apostate sites in the hopes of getting some answers. Thankfully the first site I found was Robert's and immediately I felt better. I learned I could stumble somewhat but not have to do anything too drastic as I could stumble more toward the loving arms of Jehovah and Jesus. So I stayed a PIMO for 18 years (@Jah-son) until Driven's eyes were opened during the updates last summer. We have together made our stand clear and have stopped our association with the Org but not formally dis-associated or DF'd. Just a solid fade if you will. We are not advocating this for anyone else as each one has to abide by their own individual consciences and pain thresholds.

It is a combo of the child abuse cover ups, the alliances with the United Nations along with the handling of the "vaccine" situation that are at the root of our decisions to never trust the GB again. Yes the org has gone bad and the prophecies show us that would happen. The prophecies also show us that organizational repentance is not going to happen, only repentance by individuals is possible. Jehovah and Jesus will judge accordingly. Our relationship is with them, not the org anyway, so adios Watchtower, the writing is on the wall. One of the main reasons many of the vile "ex-JW" community turn atheists is because they never had a relationship with Jehovah and Jesus to begin with. When their organizational ship sunk in their eyes, so did any semblance of faith. If the org is deemed good or bad it does not matter, because our relationship is with Jehovah and Jesus. I find that ultimately comforting!

I hope that helps Goldie!
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'because they never had a relationship with Jehovah and Jesus to begin with.'

This quote is for me the most eye-opener, because I was also afraid that I would leave Jehovah when I left the org. and that was the one thing I could and would not. I was told that as I didn’t trust the org. I had no trust in Jehovah. How happy go by am I now, with this site😉 Not that I understand everything, because of the relearning, but that keeps me busy and humble😊.

So you see, because of our solid relationship with Jehovah and Jesus (and not with an org. that cheats and tells lies) we end up here to learn, ask questions and ‘debate’, comfort each other and correct or being corrected.
 
evw said:
'because they never had a relationship with Jehovah and Jesus to begin with.'

This quote is for me the most eye-opener, because I was also afraid that I would leave Jehovah when I left the org. and that was the one thing I could and would not. I was told that as I didn’t trust the org. I had no trust in Jehovah. How happy go by am I now, with this site😉 Not that I understand everything, because of the relearning, but that keeps me busy and humble😊.

So you see, because of our solid relationship with Jehovah and Jesus (and not with an org. that cheats and tells lies) we end up here to learn, ask questions and ‘debate’, comfort each other and correct or being corrected.
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I feel like I am repeatedly telling people, I did NOT leave Jehovah, I left the org, all the time.
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MuleJule said:
Goldie, I have much sympathy for you. I was feeling the same way when I first joined this forum in January. I was lost, confused, alone. Know that you are not alone. There are many of us here who have felt or still feel the same way you do. This was our life, our beloved organization, the source of truth, our certain hope for the future. Everything in our life was tied up with and revolved around the organization, and "doing Jehovah's will". So where does that leave us when it becomes apparent that the organization is not actually doing Jehovah's will? We pray, we beg Jehovah to lead and guide us. We do research. Lots of research.

Here's what I did / am doing. Read the Bible. Not the NWT. Read and compare other translations. Try to look at the scriptures with fresh eyes, apart from beliefs you have been indoctrinated with.

Read Robert's articles & book, read Crisis of Conscience, and I could recommend several other books. There are a lot of videos too, but it's hard because many exjw videos are not upbuilding and may make things more confusing.

I am still in a limbo situation. I am POMO, because I don't go to meetings anymore or do service, but I have not "outed" myself (other than to my husband and parents) and my congregation has basically forgotten that I exist (which is fine!). I don't know what to do either. I am laying low and using this time to learn and hopefully not get even more confused. When the time comes, I feel like I will know what to do and Jehovah will make it clear.
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MuleJule said:
Goldie, I have much sympathy for you. I was feeling the same way when I first joined this forum in January. I was lost, confused, alone. Know that you are not alone. There are many of us here who have felt or still feel the same way you do. This was our life, our beloved organization, the source of truth, our certain hope for the future. Everything in our life was tied up with and revolved around the organization, and "doing Jehovah's will". So where does that leave us when it becomes apparent that the organization is not actually doing Jehovah's will? We pray, we beg Jehovah to lead and guide us. We do research. Lots of research.

Here's what I did / am doing. Read the Bible. Not the NWT. Read and compare other translations. Try to look at the scriptures with fresh eyes, apart from beliefs you have been indoctrinated with.

Read Robert's articles & book, read Crisis of Conscience, and I could recommend several other books. There are a lot of videos too, but it's hard because many exjw videos are not upbuilding and may make things more confusing.

I am still in a limbo situation. I am POMO, because I don't go to meetings anymore or do service, but I have not "outed" myself (other than to my husband and parents) and my congregation has basically forgotten that I exist (which is fine!). I don't know what to do either. I am laying low and using this time to learn and hopefully not get even more confused. When the time comes, I feel like I will know what to do and Jehovah will make it clear.
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Can you suggest a translation that is easy to understand? I'm going to have an entire library of just Bible's haha Going to confess here, I've been having troubles reading the NWT lately because I feel there is so much missing in it.....plus the society published it 😬
A sister just suggested A Crisis Of Conscience to me the other day. You can listen to it on Spotify too.
 
Eventhorizon said:
I am still in as a PIMO elder for the most part at this time(have a few reasons). However, my conscious is very bothered by what goes on, and have to work very hard to walk a tightrope given the flow of diarrhea we get now. Citrine is right on point. Not sure how long can keep this up, last years updates nearly got me. Waiting for the next big shoe to drop, I feel like it will. They are way off the rails now
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I'm right there with you bro. I don't know how you can maintain as an elder in current circumstances. Kudos to you for not going insane. I'm planning my exit strategy and I think I'm begining to see the light at the end of the tunnel. I feel Jah is providing me a safe way out. We're seeing signs of the disgusting thing. This thread has offered much evidence. I for one don't want to be caught in a position of responsibility within the congregation when "the tower" collapses. Could get crushed by some "falling bricks" while trying to support the failing structure. I think now is time to work toward and exit.
 
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