Monday, March 4th - Will there be a world government?

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I saw a wild beast ascending out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads. —Rev. 13:1.

What is the seven-headed wild beast? We notice that this beast has the general appearance of a leopard but the feet of a bear and the mouth of a lion, and it has ten horns. All of these are also features of the four beasts mentioned in Daniel chapter 7. Yet, here in the book of Revelation, these characteristics are combined into one beast, not four separate beasts. This wild beast does not represent just one government or world empire. It is spoken of as ruling “over every tribe and people and tongue and nation.” So it must be greater than any single national government. (Rev. 13:7) This wild beast, then, must represent all the political powers that have dominated humankind down through history. (Eccl. 8:9) Another indication is that the number ten is often used in the Bible to denote completeness. w22.05 9 ¶6
There is a saying among Jehovah’s Witnesses that Bible prophecy cannot be understood until after it is fulfilled. On the face of it that sounds about right. However, the purpose of prophecy is to reveal the things to come. And the things to come have to do with the coming of Christ. The book of Revelation on which the daily text is based explicitly states that the purpose of the book is to to ‘show Christ's slaves the things that must shortly take place.’

The Watchtower, on the other hand, has interpreted virtually all of Revelation to have been fulfilled during the first half of the 20th century. Their commentary on Revelation refers to a grand climax being at hand. That is because they have explained Revelation to have all taken place already except for the climactic destruction of Babylon the Great and Armageddon

There is no denying that the explanations offered are artfully contrived and even convincing, to a point. But they are simply not true. There is no possibility of overturning the Watchtower’s 1914 doctrine. It is too deeply entrenched. Anyone among Jehovah’s Witnesses who expresses the slightest doubt that the angels blew their trumpets and the bowls of God’s wrath were poured out in the 1920s is viewed as spiritually weak or even an enemy of the truth. There can be no discussion. No analysis. No search for truth. Revelation has been fulfilled. Book closed.

Nevertheless, no matter how ardently a falsehood is embraced, reality will eventually impinge on unreality. Now, please let me direct your attention to the statement above: “This wild beast does not represent just one government or world empire. It is spoken of as ruling “over every tribe and people and tongue and nation.” So it must be greater than any single national government.”

The Watchtower has assured the few million of Jehovah’s Witnesses under its authority that there will be no such thing as world government—no global empire under Satan’s control. The Watchtower claims that God’s Kingdom is ruling the world now and it is the only world government that will ever exist. There will be no political new world order. No Novus Ordo Seclorum. No United Nations global governance. No great reset. That is all the stuff of crackpot conspiracy theorists. Or is it?

The 17th chapter of Revelation depicts a scarlet-colored beast ascending out of the abyss and John was informed that the beast was itself an eighth king that springs from the seven. Furthermore, all of Earth’s kings represented by 10, will give their power and authority to the beast for “one hour.”

The symbolic 10 kings giving their authority to the eighth king for the allotted “one hour,” means that the only authority will be the eighth king. What this means in reality is that all national governments will abdicate their sovereignty to a single ruling body. Sounds like a world government to me. In that way, the Scripture will be fulfilled that the beast will rule “over every tribe and people and tongue and nation.” Placing the fulfillment of this prophecy to the establishment of the United Nations in 1945 does not work. The primary complaint against the UN is that it does not have any authority. Since that is the reality, how could it possibly be true that all of the nations have already given their authority to the United Nations?

The Watchtower claims there are two nearly identical seven-headed wild beasts. Is that logical? Not really. So why does the vision presented in the 13th chapter of Revelation depict a wild beast with seven heads coming up out of the sea and the 17th chapter presents us with a scarlet-colored seven-headed beast arising from an abyss? How do they relate to each other?

To understand the distinction we must first discard the Watchtower’s artificial interpretation regarding the meaning of the head of the beast that received what seemed like a mortal wound but then recovered. The Watchtower insists that the mortal wound was inflicted upon the head of the beast during the First World War. The explanation in the Grand Climax book claims that the victorious Allies fulfilled the prophecy even though neither the British Empire nor the United States experienced anything that could remotely be considered a catastrophic collapse. Bluntly, the Watchtower’s interpretation does not match history. It is a work of fiction.

But since Revelation is a message to Christ’s slaves to reveal the things that must shortly take place, given the advanced state of rot within the Anglo-American political and economic machinery, it does not require a great deal of imagination to envision the outright collapse of the entire system. It would seem that the ballooning debt of one trillion dollars per 100 days is the last phase in an accelerating advance toward what will be a supernova blowout of the City of London and its Wall Street satellite and the utter bankruptcy of the treasury of the one-time greatest nation in the world. There is no possibility that the precariously unbalanced, debt-bloated system could remain intact when once the missiles begin to fly.

The death of the Anglo-American head of the beast will give rise to the eighth king. That is why the scarlet-colored beast is pictured ascending out of an abyss. The abyss represents a death-like condition. The beastly system that has existed for centuries will suddenly die. Then it will come back to life. The scarlet color of the beast rising from the Grave or abyss may denote its rage, reflecting the great anger of the dragon after it is hurled down from heaven and causes a mortal wound to the head of the beast.

The resurrected beast will likely come in the form of global communism. It looks like digital currency will be imposed. Already the central bank of the central banks, the Bank of International Settlements, is putting into place a Central Bank Digital Currency system to replace national currencies. Will the United Nations be the embodiment of the eighth king in the post-nation-state system? I cannot say with certainty that it will. However, any form of government requires a lot of infrastructure. The UN already has the framework in place. It also has some legitimacy in the minds of most people. The Watchtower has certainly lent its support to hold the UN up as a noble but powerless institution. I suspect that the masonic-designed city of Astana in Kazakstan might become the new home for the UN, making it a world capital for the last empire. But that is speculation on my part.


 
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As long as nation-states are sovereign the UN is pretty powerless. One nation on the permanent Security Council can veto the will of the majority.
The United States of America stands as a beacon of hope to the rest of the world for National Sovereignty to prevail. It makes sense that this part of the Anglo American duo has to fall in order for the world's nation's to relinquish their power to a One World Government. When that occurs National Sovereignty will be history, a thing of the past. When America recovers from her fall she will return but she will not be the America we know today, she will return as the dominant part of the 8th king, basically a major part of the One World Government. It took me a while to accept that RKs explanation of Revelations prophecy of the fall of the 7th headed wild beast mortal head wound being America, but I'm totally on board now, it makes so much sense.
 

There is no denying that the explanations offered are artfully contrived and even convincing, to a point. But they are simply not true. There is no possibility of overturning the Watchtower’s 1914 doctrine. It is too deeply entrenched.
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The symbolic 10 kings giving their authority to the eighth king for the allotted “one hour,” means that the only authority will be the eighth king. What this means in reality is that all national governments will abdicate their sovereignty to a single ruling body. Sounds like a world government to me.
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I suspect that the masonic-designed city of Astana in Kazakstan might become the new home for the UN, making it a world capital for the last empire. But that is speculation on my part.
Astana Kazachstan masonic occult stad vrijmetselaars freemasons pyramid piramide gebouw.jpeg
 
Is it possible the 6th head is still ruling?

The 7 headed beast is introduced in Revelation 11. It says one of its heads is wounded, but no specific head is mentioned, and it doesn't say the healed head is worshiped, it just says the beast as a whole is. Then we learn this incarnation has 42 months to rule. Also, during this "hour" it openly blasphemes Jehovah, implying the previous incarnation doesn't; which fits if the 6th beast is still ruling. The Church of England is horrible, but they don't openly blaspheme Jehovah as far as I can tell. Revelation 17 tells us the 7th head only rules for a short time, and 42 months would definitely be a short time as opposed to centuries. Then verse 11 says the beast as a whole is also an 8th king, so it's basically a whole new entity that encompases the previous 7. Finally, Daniel 2 tells us the 7th head is a mixture of iron and clay.

Is it possible the 6th head is still ruling as the City of London/KOTN, which is technically a continuation of Rome? When the end times start, it receives its near fatal head wound, leading to the 7th head rising to rule the whole world for a short time as the all powerful UN. It will also be the 8th king, because Satan is the 8th king who rules the world via his 7th head/UN government apparatus. Could the clay symbolize humans, the iron symbolize technology, and their mixing be transhumanism? Maybe taking the MOTB would be if anyone accepts the transhumanism offered during the HOT? Life extension technology, upgrades in abilities and the shear convenience of not needing keys, ID or money, but instead have a chip in your hand and forehead. Scanners can then separate those who do and don't possess this technology. Could this be why our governments have allowed ID theft and financial crimes to run rampant? Those who worship the government will gladly accept the MOTB and worship Satan for bring peace to the world, but those who worship Jehovah will refuse to adulterate their bodies, and we'll be hated because of it.

Thoughts?
 
Is it possible the 6th head is still ruling?

The 7 headed beast is introduced in Revelation 11. It says one of its heads is wounded, but no specific head is mentioned, and it doesn't say the healed head is worshiped, it just says the beast as a whole is. Then we learn this incarnation has 42 months to rule. Also, during this "hour" it openly blasphemes Jehovah, implying the previous incarnation doesn't; which fits if the 6th beast is still ruling. The Church of England is horrible, but they don't openly blaspheme Jehovah as far as I can tell. Revelation 17 tells us the 7th head only rules for a short time, and 42 months would definitely be a short time as opposed to centuries. Then verse 11 says the beast as a whole is also an 8th king, so it's basically a whole new entity that encompases the previous 7. Finally, Daniel 2 tells us the 7th head is a mixture of iron and clay.

Is it possible the 6th head is still ruling as the City of London/KOTN, which is technically a continuation of Rome? When the end times start, it receives its near fatal head wound, leading to the 7th head rising to rule the whole world for a short time as the all powerful UN. It will also be the 8th king, because Satan is the 8th king who rules the world via his 7th head/UN government apparatus. Could the clay symbolize humans, the iron symbolize technology, and their mixing be transhumanism? Maybe taking the MOTB would be if anyone accepts the transhumanism offered during the HOT? Life extension technology, upgrades in abilities and the shear convenience of not needing keys, ID or money, but instead have a chip in your hand and forehead. Scanners can then separate those who do and don't possess this technology. Could this be why our governments have allowed ID theft and financial crimes to run rampant? Those who worship the government will gladly accept the MOTB and worship Satan for bring peace to the world, but those who worship Jehovah will refuse to adulterate their bodies, and we'll be hated because of it.

Thoughts?

No way. Remnants exist of the sixth head, Rome, but there is no way it is still ruling.
 
No way. Remnants exist of the sixth head, Rome, but there is no way it is still ruling.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but using the Bible, how can you say this with such confidence?

What concerns me is the point I brought up about the 7th head ruling for a short time. Satan is said to be angry because he only has a short period time to rule his NWO... which we know is 42 months.
 
So where then does the 8th king fall in your theory? If as you say the 7th head is during the 'short time' of 42 months, which is then immediately followed by Armageddon, when does the 8th king come into play?

Carl, the United States is the world power right now. I often wonder if the Anglo part of the head even still exists as part of the seventh head. It seems as though the United States with the petro dollar is truly the ruling head by itself. As we know there are 10 horns on the head of the ferocious beast in Daniel. Most certainly Great Britain is one of those horns, along with France, Spain, Russia, the United States, etc...etc. But how do we know that the seventh head of the beast once it was fully formed and in power even has an Anglo attached to it? Is this simply an idea that the WT has incorporated into their understanding, and by extension we now use this definition for the seventh head of the beast AS the Anglo-American head.

(Da 7:7-8) “. . .After this I kept on beholding in the visions of the night, and, see there! a fourth beast, fearsome and terrible and unusually strong. And it had teeth of iron, big ones. It was devouring and crushing, and what was left it was treading down with its feet. And it was something different from all the [other] beasts that were prior to it, and it had ten horns. 8 I kept on considering the horns, and, look! another horn, a small one, came up in among them, and there were three of the first horns that were plucked up from before it. And, look! there were eyes like the eyes of a man in this horn, and there was a mouth speaking grandiose things.”


Sorry if my question to you is different than your quandary about the 6th and 7th head, but to be honest I don't want to talk about something that we know is not true. Which is that the Roman Empire, the 6th head of the beast, is still ruling. Sorry...
 
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So where then does the 8th king fall in your theory? If as you say the 7th head is during the 'short time' of 42 months, which is then immediately followed by Armageddon, when does the 8th king come into play?

Carl, the United States is the world power right now. I often wonder if the Anglo part of the head even still exists as part of the seventh head. It seems as though the United States with the petro dollar is truly the ruling head by itself. As we know there are 10 horns on the head of the ferocious beast in Daniel. Most certainly Great Britain is one of those horns, along with France, Spain, Russia, the United States, etc...etc. But how do we know that the seventh head of the beast once it was fully formed and in power even has an Anglo attached to it? Is this simply an idea that the WT has incorporated into their understanding, and by extension we now use this definition for the seventh head of the beast AS the Anglo-American head.

Sorry if my question to you is different than your quandary about the 6th and 7th head, but to be honest I don't want to talk about something that we know is not true. Which is that the Roman Empire, the 6th head of the beast, is still ruling. Sorry...
Revelation 17:9-13 "This calls for a mind that has wisdom: The seven heads mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top. And there are seven kings: Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet arrived; but when he does arrive, he must remain a short while. And the wild beast that was but is not, it is also an eighth king, but it springs from the seven, and it goes off into destruction. “The ten horns that you saw mean ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority as kings for one hour with the wild beast. These have one thought, so they give their power and authority to the wild beast."

The wild beast is the 8th king once it's complete, not before. The 10 horns/kings receive their power with Satan, who is the 8th king, during the HOT, not before. If the beast has 10 horns right now, how does this makes sense?

As for the US, I consider them the KOTS; and the struggle between the KOTN/KOTS has been on going since the Revolutionary War, but it's really heating up now. After the complete beast begins to rule, the 2 horned beast is the KOTN/KOTS, each representing one of the horns... and the revived head of the 6th king, London, could fit with prophesy.

Just a thought exercise...

The US may have the dollar, but the City of London rules us via the FED.
 
I'm not saying you're wrong, but using the Bible, how can you say this with such confidence?

What concerns me is the point I brought up about the 7th head ruling for a short time. Satan is said to be angry because he only has a short period time to rule his NWO... which we know is 42 months.
The Anglo/American world power has only been in existence for a short while when compared to previous world powers. Great Britain emerged as a world power about 1763 when the 7years war ended. Anglo/American emerged about 1917 according to my google search. The Anglo-American term was used primarily in 1790-1830 by French speaking Louisianians to describe English speaking newcomers from the US.
 
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The Anglo/American world power has only been in existence for a short while when compared to previous world powers. Great Britain emerged as a world power about 1763 when the 7years war ended. Anglo/American emerged about 1917 according to my google search.
The City of London, i.e. Rome, has never been conquered, and has remained a separate entity to this day... with its own autonomous leadership and laws. The US and UK aren't in a real partnership, since the KOTN and the KOTS are considered rivals, not allies, and we know the FED is under the thumb of the City of London. The struggle between the 2 is real... and heating up. In the end it doesn't really matter, because either way the current system is going down soon and the new system will be led by Satan as the 8th king.
 
You raise an interesting point, Carl. The 7th chapter of Daniel only lists four beasts that descend from Babylon. Two came before. Egypt and Assyria. So, Daniel's vision does not include the seventh king. Instead, it pictures the three horns that are plucked out. So, the unusually ferocious beast with 10 horns and a later 11th horn, must picture the Roman beast and its modern incarnation, that being the British Empire. And it is the core of the aristocrats grouped around the British Crown and City of London that creates the last kingdom, the little horn that grows bigger and bigger.
 
The United States of America stands as a beacon of hope to the rest of the world for National Sovereignty to prevail. It makes sense that this part of the Anglo American duo has to fall in order for the world's nation's to relinquish their power to a One World Government. When that occurs National Sovereignty will be history, a thing of the past. When America recovers from her fall she will return but she will not be the America we know today, she will return as the dominant part of the 8th king, basically a major part of the One World Government. It took me a while to accept that RKs explanation of Revelations prophecy of the fall of the 7th headed wild beast mortal head wound being America, but I'm totally on board now, it makes so much sense.
Which is why all of the treason also makes sense. Many of these political people and business people want the US to fail to make way for a global government because they think they will become even more powerful and rich.
 
You raise an interesting point, Carl. The 7th chapter of Daniel only lists four beasts that descend from Babylon. Two came before. Egypt and Assyria. So, Daniel's vision does not include the seventh king. Instead, it pictures the three horns that are plucked out. So, the unusually ferocious beast with 10 horns and a later 11th horn, must picture the Roman beast and its modern incarnation, that being the British Empire. And it is the core of the aristocrats grouped around the British Crown and City of London that creates the last kingdom, the little horn that grows bigger and bigger.
Daniel 7 confuses me, so I'm not going to even try to guess what's going on there. lol
 
They often decry "nationalism" in many articles and imagining a world without borders in the new world. However, that goes against what the Bible says. Jehovah wanted people to spread out to make nations. In God's infinite wisdom. He saw that being in a centralized place, the Tower of Babel is dangerous. It's why Jehovah said there would be nothing they couldn't accomplish if they all worked together. To the naive, that sounds so progressive and good but to the wise that would be regressive and bad. The cultural rot within a centralized place would cause corruption and would eventually censor out God's word. Just like we see on college campus and all the things they support. Having a centralized place of authority and going with the naive talking point about nations being bad because it divides people. That is the globalism mindset. A much more dangerous ideology. Instead of taking over a nation they want to take over the world. It's why Gog of Magog is said to be a coalition of nations not a bunch of nations fighting against each other. The globalist mindset is what Gog of Magog will be and they will be very secular and very gay and "inclusive" and will seek to destroy Christianity, including JW too. And they will as the Wild Beast will kill the prostitute. Until Christ intervenes to protect his people during that final hour.

Thank goodness for having many nations and borders. A nation can't be a nation without borders. A nation can rise and fall without effecting all of humanity but if globalism takes over, all humanity is affected and threatened by an extinction level event. That is what is going on now. Even in Bible days, Jehovah gave directions about Israelites to set borders for itself as a nation of Israel for his chosen people and for the Messiah to be born there.

Plus, we currently see the chaos of the border crisis. Is that loving? To have no borders and nations? Not at all. God wanted us to spread around the earth and form groups that later became nations. He will want us to do the same in the new system too. He would not want humanity to accumulate in only one area of the world. When those new scrolls open up we'll be given directions to reside in a certain area on earth. All humanity won't be in only one area for long.

Watchtower should be talking about the dangers of globalism especially in this day and age, nationalism has lost its luster.
 
The City of London, i.e. Rome, has never been conquered, and has remained a separate entity to this day... with its own autonomous leadership and laws. The US and UK aren't in a real partnership, since the KOTN and the KOTS are considered rivals, not allies, and we know the FED is under the thumb of the City of London. The struggle between the 2 is real... and heating up. In the end it doesn't really matter, because either way the current system is going down soon and the new system will be led by Satan as the 8th king.
Who and what are you referring to when you use these words/terms - {KOTN and the KOTS} ?.
 
Which is why all of the treason also makes sense. Many of these political people and business people want the US to fail to make way for a global government because they think they will become even more powerful and rich.
Scriptures for thought...

Revelation19:1-21​

19 And I saw the wild beast+ and the kings+ of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage the war+ with the one seated on the horse+ and with his army. More> https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/bi12/books/revelation/19/#v66019019

Psalm2:1-12
2 Why have the nations been in tumult + And the national groups themselves kept muttering an empty thing?+ More> https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/bi12/books/psalms/2/

Isaiah14:​

12 “O how you have fallen from heaven,+ you shining one,* son of the dawn! How you have been cut down to the earth,+ you who were disabling the nations!+ 13 As for you, you have said in your heart, ‘To the heavens I shall go up.+ Above the stars+ of God* I shall lift up my throne,+ and I shall sit down upon the mountain of meeting,+ in the remotest parts of the north.+ 14 I shall go up above the high places of the clouds;+ I shall make myself resemble the Most High.’+ More> https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/bi12/books/isaiah/14/

 
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