My Conversation with an Elder
- Thread starter Ms_ladyblue
- Start date
Ms_ladyblue
Well-known member
Ana
Well-known member
Es que en el fondo tengo que reírme. Igual ha sido brusco el cambio de tema, lo siento si no tuve tacto, comprendo perfectamente tu postura. Pero ya son muchos años escuchando parecidos mensajes y son como figuritas repetidas. No quieren pensar, no quieren tener un estudio personal profundo, solo se mueven bajo guión. Su fe la ponen en hombres mortales y tú les hablas de Jehová el Dios de los vivos. Hay algo diabólico siempre que se tuerce la verdad, da igual quien la exponga. Esperan que el mismísimo Jehová les salve en el Armagedón y aún no ha empezado la limpieza en su pueblo. No recuerdan que una sola viuda dio una de las mejores lecciones que se citan en la Biblia.
Ms_ladyblue
Well-known member
Translation: It's just that deep down I have to laugh. Maybe the change of subject has been abrupt, I'm sorry if I didn't have touch, I understand your position perfectly. But it's been many years listening to similar messages and they are like repeated figurines. They don't want to think, they don't want to have a deep personal study, they only move under script. They put their faith in mortal men and you speak to them of the Lord, the God of the living. There is something diabolical whenever the truth is twisted, it doesn't matter who exposes it. They hope that Jehovah himself will save them in Armageddon and the cleaning has not yet begun in his people. They do not remember that a single widow gave one of the best lessons cited in the Bible.Es que en el fondo tengo que reírme. Igual ha sido brusco el cambio de tema, lo siento si no tuve tacto, comprendo perfectamente tu postura. Pero ya son muchos años escuchando parecidos mensajes y son como figuritas repetidas. No quieren pensar, no quieren tener un estudio personal profundo, solo se mueven bajo guión. Su fe la ponen en hombres mortales y tú les hablas de Jehová el Dios de los vivos. Hay algo diabólico siempre que se tuerce la verdad, da igual quien la exponga. Esperan que el mismísimo Jehová les salve en el Armagedón y aún no ha empezado la limpieza en su pueblo. No recuerdan que una sola viuda dio una de las mejores lecciones que se citan en la Biblia.
Ana
Well-known member
Translation: It's just that deep down I have to laugh. Maybe the change of subject has been abrupt, I'm sorry if I didn't have touch, I understand your position perfectly. But it's been many years listening to similar messages and they are like repeated figurines. They don't want to think, they don't want to have a deep personal study, they only move under script. They put their faith in mortal men and you speak to them of the Lord, the God of the living. There is something diabolical whenever the truth is twisted, it doesn't matter who exposes it. They hope that Jehovah himself will save them in Armageddon and the cleaning has not yet begun in his people. They do not remember that a single widow gave one of the best lessons cited in the Bible.
Viuda soltera...traductor malo. Dije una viuda sola.
Ms_ladyblue
Well-known member
You think that’s something, later on today I ran into a sister I’ve known for years…she asked how I was doing, I said fine. Then she said she noticed that I wasn’t at the meetings and implied that I was spiritually weak. Now she really hit a nerve and I proceeded to let her know that “not going to meetings doesn’t make you weak...I still believe in Jehovah and study the Bible.” I continued…”We weren’t allowed to go to meetings for two years and I don’t count being on Zoom together being at meetings.”
She proceeded to say how “Jehovah dispenses the spiritual food to Jesus then down to the GB.” ( that hit another nerve
) I reminded her that we only have one mediator between us and Jehovah…the GB have made themselves the mediator.
She also said that the GB was appointed by Jesus Christ ie FDS...I asked how did she know that, no answer but I let her know that they were self appointed…as someone on here pointed out before.
She didn’t know what to say but when I asked her about the prophecy referring to Jehovah’s scattered sheep and to look it up she said, “yes, but if it’s not in the Insight book I’m not interested.”
This is a perfect example of what I call being dumbed down.
Nomex
Well-known member
This may surprise some here, but I am at loss for words. This display of record breaking arrogance is absolutely astonishing...in what way will "Jehovah reveal it to us"???? WTH!!!! I guess the Holy Spirit however is failing!!! I'm laughing and infuriated all at the same time...
Nomex
Well-known member
Let me say this...these men, these pricks deserve exactly what is coming..."men, especially those with Jehovah's Holy Spirit, know how to recognize male logic"..."I don't know his name yet, but Jehovah will reveal it to us in due time"...why doesn't Jehovah reveal all the child predators in "His spiritual paradise"? It seems to me "Jehovah's Holy Spirit" sounds an awful lot like someone else's spirit.
I would also like to point out, we actually believe Satan is the ruler of this world therefore there is ZERO chance anything done during Covid was to benefit anyone!
I would also like to point out, we actually believe Satan is the ruler of this world therefore there is ZERO chance anything done during Covid was to benefit anyone!
Ms_ladyblue
Well-known member
He said they know how “to recognize male logic.” Meaning that a man would have to had sent me these messages to text.
I didn’t have any man or woman’s help. Those are my words only.
Nomex
Well-known member
Let me point this out also... "concerns about Jehovah and Jehovah's Organization." You know how we know this all raises to the level of idolatry? First of all, the whole point to the wording is to elevate the "org", to Jehovah's level. So the issue is not that you question Jehovah, especially since we know Jehovah is fine with that, Moses stopped Jehovah from wiping out the Israelite's after the golden calf incident, and Abraham questioned Jehovah about wiping out Sodom and Gomorrah, so it's not the question that is the problem, it's that you are ASKING IT! The TRUE GOD, doesn't not mind an honest question!!!! Only idol worshipers and the IDOL have a problem with questions, because the answer exposes them!!!!
BTW, who killed Jesus? Jehovah's Organization! Sucks to be them!!!!
Nomex
Well-known member
I know what the arrogant prick meant...that's part of why I am so shocked and pissed about it...like I said above, Who killed Jesus???? Jehovah's Organization has a HORRIBLE TRACK RECORD!!!! I mean the first thing they did when Jehovah freed them from Egyptian slavery, was to commit themselves to idolatry...oh and you know what they called their "festival" when they made the Golden Calf? They actually called it a "festival to Jehovah." Like I keep saying, as well as others here, history is repeating itself.
But the biggest act of betrayal was when "Jehovah's Organization" led by the Jewish Governing Body held an illegal trial in the dead of night, and convicted Jehovah's son of blasphemy, and had him killed! "Jehovah's Organization" is NOT JEHOVAH!!!!
Wide Awake
Well-known member
Can we say the elder was really a jerk to you? How awful! They think they know because they are men know more than you by throwing that scripture 1 Corinthians 2:15. Jesus would never treat one of his sheep like that!
You had quite a day but proud of you for standing so strong! They need 2 witnesses so yeah don't meet with them. Their arrogance is just appalling! The sad thing is the GB makes them feel like they can get away with it. Jehovah sees all of this thankfully! Kudos to you!
Nomex
Well-known member
It makes a lot more sense to me now, why my 3 older brothers were DF'd so quickly for giving a well deserved ass kicking to some other "JW's" The elders were afraid of us!!! They were afraid they would earn their own very well deserved ass kicking! Sorry...this has really fired me up!!!
Ms_ladyblue
Well-known member
Thanks @Wide Awake I appreciate that. When I think about it, what they call my “male logic” must mean I’ve been getting well educated on this forum.
Wide Awake
Well-known member
Maybe block their phone numbers and put up a no trespassing sign just in case they want to drop by unexpectedly!Thanks @Wide Awake I appreciate that. When I think about it, what they call my “male logic” must mean I’ve been getting well educated on this forum.
Nomex
Well-known member
Oh, and BTW....the reason the Jewish Governing Body killed Jesus, was because not only did he question them, he exposed them as the frauds that they were. But the reason they were so incensed, was the exact same reason the GB are incensed when they are questioned, like the Jewish GB, they represented "Jehovah's Organization" and questioning them, was the same thing as questioning Jehovah. That's how they justified killing Jesus...sound familiar? WT, and the GB cannot kill people, but they can do the next best thing...DF you!
That's what you should tell people when they say, "Jehovah's Organization", "Jehovah's Organization killed Jesus in the first century, so I'm sorry but
I remain skeptical of anything men have to say that claim they have Jehovah's authority! In fact they are the most dangerous of all of mankind. No crime in the history of mankind raises to the level of killing Jesus...so I think maybe you should think twice when you say 'Jehovah's Organization'", Jesus Christ was KILLED in the name of "Jehovah's Organization." Actually, not in the name, they actually killed him and unlike the GB who claim they were Jehovah's Organization, they actually had a covenant from GOD!!
That's what you should tell people when they say, "Jehovah's Organization", "Jehovah's Organization killed Jesus in the first century, so I'm sorry but
I remain skeptical of anything men have to say that claim they have Jehovah's authority! In fact they are the most dangerous of all of mankind. No crime in the history of mankind raises to the level of killing Jesus...so I think maybe you should think twice when you say 'Jehovah's Organization'", Jesus Christ was KILLED in the name of "Jehovah's Organization." Actually, not in the name, they actually killed him and unlike the GB who claim they were Jehovah's Organization, they actually had a covenant from GOD!!
Ms_ladyblue
Well-known member
BagdadBill
Well-known member
Biden did try to make it mandatory to get jabbed to hold a job in USA. He tried using OSHA as middle man but it backfired on him. Luckily for us there were still a few judges that had not been bought off yet. Quoting Romans 13 tells me that they were anticipating a government mandate.What is this with elders citing 3 scriptures for you to read-with no explanation on how they are applying them? I got the same type of reply from one of the elders when I sent them an email about why I would not consider taking the Covid mRNA shots. One of the scriptures they quickly sent back was Romans 13:1?! I had no idea why they would even send that to me! There was no law in the United States for anyone to be vaccinated! And when I replied to the email, I got no further explanation. It’s like the elders are just told a script to follow and they do it without thinking for themselves. It’s really heartbreaking and sad!
kirmmy
Well-known member
There's nothing wrong with a good ass-kicking...as long as the right asses are kicked.
