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BagdadBill
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This part makes a lot more sense now.
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Man from Berea
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And speaking of numbers, one more interesting thing! How much in 2020 the numbers of new baptised? 241 994
For me one interesting number. Why? I searched with Google for it, and? What I found. Two picture show it.
Maybe only coincidence? Or does anyone have such a clock at Bethel?
My questions:
For me why interesting this?
In 2020 the preaching work practically stopped and we only got together on Zoom. If there was such an increase in 2020 amidst the stopped preaching work (without preaching), then why did we go from house to house before that? In other words: If the increase is so great even without active preaching, was it not unnecessary to preach the gospel? Not true?
In 2019 the numbers of new baptised: 303 866 and in 2021: 171 393 This, so +- 70 000 person. But, still thought-provoking! If we don't preach the good news, will people still flock to be baptized?
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I see it too…interesting. No, I don’t think that photo has been put on the forum before
The God Pill
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In Hebrew I think it's Olam in Greek sometimes it's translated aeon sometimes kosmos as it can mean age/era, world, eternity or multiple simultaneous. That's why we have all these English terms new world, age, aeon, era and end of the world, era, age etc for essentially the same thing.
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Man from Berea
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I found it somewhere on the internet (maybe on JW.ORG), but Google also brings it up. This it, the URL. (Google map)
On this is even more visible.
Oh yes for sure. A much better angle but for people who aren’t aware of all their garbage symbols, it wouldn’t mean a thing. It’s probably intentional, they’re so ridiculous with some of the things they do
Sundial
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Fear is a powerful motivator. The insecure will always look to someone else to shoulder their load. Plus, they are assured they will be untouchable so no worries about the future. I'd predict a temporary increase followed by a sharp decrease as this proves to be a false hope.And speaking of numbers, one more interesting thing! How much in 2020 the numbers of new baptised? 241 994
For me one interesting number. Why? I searched with Google for it, and? What I found. Two picture show it.
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Maybe only coincidence? Or does anyone have such a clock at Bethel?
My questions:
For me why interesting this?
In 2020 the preaching work practically stopped and we only got together on Zoom. If there was such an increase in 2020 amidst the stopped preaching work (without preaching), then why did we go from house to house before that? In other words: If the increase is so great even without active preaching, was it not unnecessary to preach the gospel? Not true?
In 2019 the numbers of new baptised: 303 866 and in 2021: 171 393 This, so +- 70 000 person. But, still thought-provoking! If we don't preach the good news, will people still flock to be baptized?
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Man from Berea
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I think, nobody neither can known sure how will be...
Maybe, the brothers slow wake up. Maybe... And they see it, something there is not quite right.
One thought is not clear in me: Are the growth figures for the last 3 years real data? (baptised person number)
I think the number of baptisms is real because it is abysmal. The Covid lockdown devastated our baptism numbers.
Melinda
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Today I had a 3 hour lunch with my good friend Cathy Obrien. Some of you on this forum are familiar with Cathy...She is one of the most famous MK Ultra (Mind Control) survivors. Cathy was used by the White House in the George Bush Sr. and Reagan years before her rescue in 1988 by Mark Phillips who was very high in the CIA and NASA who later became her husband. Cathy has traveled the country over the years as a speaker to expose the MK Ultra operation and put a spotlight on the NEW WORLD ORDER. She said George Bush said that no one would be able to stop the NEW WORLD ORDER under no circumstances could it ever be stopped. We talked about so many things here is one of the highlights that I thought you guys my find interesting. We talked about marijuana...and how our government has suppressed and demonized marjuana and kept information from education, from the medical and mental health community. The true information about marijuana that has been suppressed is that marijuana opens neural pathways in the brain and you can not maintain control over anyone or any nation if you are using marijuana. The NEW WORLD ORDER is all about mind control that would not be possible if people had access to marijuana. After her rescue it was marijuana that was used to help get control over her own mind. In one of her books called PTSD Time to heal...she goes into the medical reasons why marijuana is crucial treating PTSD along with the medical value of marijuna. It was a fascinating lunch!
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Medi-tator
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Regarding marijuana use, I am going to suggest that any ills corrected with the use of weed is a very selective remedy. I for one, having been a chronic pot smoker during my 13 years of being disfellowshipped developed hideous paranoia as a result of my pot use. However, I also have known people who thrived on it and were able to function at very high levels, even designing great solutions to problems in the construction industry. So, what did not work for me worked well for Cathy. If I smoked pot right now, I would be a total cripple for the rest of the day. That is not everyone's experience however. Got any?
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The Black Sheep
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Melinda
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Thank you for your response. First of all....I have never used or been around marijuana so this is not a subject I am familiar with. During our conversation today....Cathy did say that marijuana is a herb...she said it grows like grass...right after she said it grows like grass we both laughed for at least 2 minutes. lol Its an herb ... she said whats on the streets now and medical marijuana is not the same. Since they have leagalized marijuana it's not good for you..our government changed it. I will share your story with her and see what she says.Regarding marijuana use, I am going to suggest that any ills corrected with the use of weed is a very selective remedy. I for one, having been a chronic pot smoker during my 13 years of being disfellowshipped developed hideous paranoia as a result of my pot use. However, I also know people who thrived on it and were able to function at very high levels, even designing great solutions to problems in the construction industry. So, what did not work for me worked well for Cathy. If I smoked pot right now, I would be a total cripple for the rest of the day. That is not everyone's experience however. Got any?
Melinda
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My sister vapes marijuana everyday...I know when I am talking to her she's on it. I see the personality change. My sister just recently had a knee replacement....the doctor wanted her off her marijuana for a week before surgery. The doctor told her that her brain would not take the anesthesia if she was on marijuana...basically would not be controlled. I am sure what is good in marijuana has been laced with something that causes side effects that can kill you. I have said this before....Rat poison is 99 percent good for the Rat it's that 1 percent that kills the Rat.Regarding marijuana use, I am going to suggest that any ills corrected with the use of weed is a very selective remedy. I for one, having been a chronic pot smoker during my 13 years of being disfellowshipped developed hideous paranoia as a result of my pot use. However, I also have known people who thrived on it and were able to function at very high levels, even designing great solutions to problems in the construction industry. So, what did not work for me worked well for Cathy. If I smoked pot right now, I would be a total cripple for the rest of the day. That is not everyone's experience however. Got any?
Cristo
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Ha, thats funny. The last time I tried marijuana was in the form of a liquid edible. It looked like one of those 5 hour energy little bottles. I asked the person how much I was supposed to drink and she said she would drink the whole thing, but since I hadn't used it in a long time I decided to only drink half. After I had already downed it back at home, I looked at the bottle and realized that there were 10 doses in this very small bottle, and I had just drink half of them. WOW!!!! Big mistake. I've smoked a lot of marijuana in my past, but this was by far the worst experience I have ever had. I thought my heart was going to beat out of my chest, and for the next 5 hours just sat in my chair waiting for the effects to go away. It was the only time I ever actually considered going to the hospital for marijuana use, doh! It was not a normal high. The marijuana these days is sooooooo powerful, I don't know how people do it and actually function. I'm sticking to beer!Regarding marijuana use, I am going to suggest that any ills corrected with the use of weed is a very selective remedy. I for one, having been a chronic pot smoker during my 13 years of being disfellowshipped developed hideous paranoia as a result of my pot use. However, I also know people who thrived on it and were able to function at very high levels, even designing great solutions to problems in the construction industry. So, what did not work for me worked well for Cathy. If I smoked pot right now, I would be a total cripple for the rest of the day. That is not everyone's experience however. Got any?
Cristo
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I don't discount the medical use of marijuana in certain conditions, however I feel that it is just like any other medication when it comes to treatment, in that once the person is past the need for it, they should stop using it. If it is continually used after they have learned new ways to cope with their situation, it then becomes a crutch to lean on. I don't judge people if they use, to each their own, and I am in no place to understand fully what Cathy went through, as I've read and known about her for years. She opened my eyes, along with Fritz of the evils to this world back when I was realized what gang stalking was, and was searching for answers nearly 20 years ago. I think there is certainly a use for it medicinally, but just like everything there must be balance, and a goal to eventually use other strategies to cope, in order to stop using it when it is used for mental disabilities such as PTSD.
Melinda
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I hope I am not coming across that I would promote something that was harmful...what ever is good and beneficial from marijuna has been laced and changed otherwise our government would have not legalized it. The point Cathy was making was that people who take the herb marijuna can not be controlled.
I know one who can.