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[kirmmy]

A shaking is on it's way it seems.

Revelation 6:13

"Then the stars of the sky fell to the earth like green figs falling from a tree shaken by a strong wind."

On the rare occasions I have wanted to contact bethel

Why? You needed some more abuse?

They’ve probably never heard of shedding. Heck! I don’t even know if I believe in shedding.

I'm a cat. Trust me there is such a thing as shedding. Silly human.

***IF*** Congress has hearings looking into all things COVID.

Yes, I'm sure some very sternly worded letters will be written. There may even be a dirty look or two... But yeah, my take exactly, no one will pay for anything. SSDD.

 

[BagdadBill]

Yes, I'm sure some very sternly worded letters will be written. There may even be a dirty look or two... But yeah, my take exactly, no one will pay for anything. SSDD.

Notice who they chose as leader of the house in DC. He is WEF and thus NWO.

 

[mts]

Notice who they chose as leader of the house in DC. He is WEF and thus NWO.

I heard he only got voted in because he conceded to certain agreements, ie. end covid emergency, restart jan 6 (Real Investigation), Border Security attention, etc. Encourage to check on this. Basically, voted in with hands tied. Shifty-shiff and Swallwell already name calling and upset about the concessions. Just sharing what I heard, please check for yourself; however, you're right about being a WEF+NWO supporter. We'll see if the concessions play out

 

[יהוה_saves]

@Citrine

i’m constantly keeping up on the latest news re: injection mandates, injury, death and yet there is very little “official” info coming out of the Watchtower (WT) org itself, or even out of the exjw community, about how those who “obeyed” the gov body and took up this poison, are doing.

If the WT brotherhood aligns with whatever info we gather from Health Impact News, Real Not Rare and Children’s Defense websites about the general public regarding these injections, then it is in serious trouble.

So I come here to get these WT updates from anyone that has an inside view to the org, even anecdotal, and just wanted to express my appreciation.

 

[יהוה_saves]

Just wait until everything blows up. The "wild talk" is going to go viral.

completely agree. When this goes wide, and it will, there’s going to be utter panic and dismay.

 

[Citrine]

@Citrine

i’m constantly keeping up on the latest news re: injection mandates, injury, death and yet there is very little “official” info coming out of the Watchtower (WT) org itself, or even out of the exjw community, about how those who “obeyed” the gov body and took up this poison, are doing.

If the WT brotherhood aligns with whatever info we gather from Health Impact News, Real Not Rare and Children’s Defense websites about the general public regarding these injections, then it is in serious trouble.

So I come here to get these WT updates from anyone that has an inside view to the org, even anecdotal, and just wanted to express my appreciation.

I’m always trying to gather info but as you know the R&F are very tight lipped on the matter. Even the local elder near us that was hospitalized with blood clots and nearly died won’t say a word regarding the vx! He and his wife said he “mixed up his meds” as cover for him being in the hospital for weeks. They said they didn’t want to discourage any of the friends from getting the boosters due to his reaction!
BTW it’s nice to see you on here again

 

[kirmmy]

@Citrine

i’m constantly keeping up on the latest news re: injection mandates, injury, death and yet there is very little “official” info coming out of the Watchtower (WT) org itself, or even out of the exjw community, about how those who “obeyed” the gov body and took up this poison, are doing.

If the WT brotherhood aligns with whatever info we gather from Health Impact News, Real Not Rare and Children’s Defense websites about the general public regarding these injections, then it is in serious trouble.

So I come here to get these WT updates from anyone that has an inside view to the org, even anecdotal, and just wanted to express my appreciation.

Nice to see you back although I'm sure you were just in "lurker" status. This Forum's like the hotel California, you can check out any time you want but you can never leave.

BTW, that is one funky picture of what I presume to be one of your pugs. Disco pug?

Well, you can tell by the way I use my walk
I'm a woman's pug, no time to talk

Whether you're a pug or whether you're a pugette
You're stayin' alive, stayin' alive
Feel the city breakin' and every pug shakin'
And we're stayin' alive, stayin' alive
Ah, ha, ha, ha, stayin' alive, stayin' alive
Ah, ha, ha, ha, stayin' alive

Allright, I'll stop now...

 

[יהוה_saves]

@Citrine

that’s crazy! And very sad to hear that JWs are resorting to telling lies to cover for the gov body’s lies. I’m so glad to be out of that spiritual filth- but i do have compassion for those still mentally stuck in it.

 

[Nomex]

@Citrine

that’s crazy! And very sad to hear that JWs are resorting to telling lies to cover for the gov body’s lies. I’m so glad to be out of that spiritual filth- but i do have compassion for those still mentally stuck in it.

Just so you know, you can still hit me up any time!

 

[יהוה_saves]

I believe they will be scrambling to find volunteers to help & serve at Ramapo.

i’ve been saying this very thing since last summer.

I just watched Sanderson engage in a whine-fest for JWs to help build Ramapo for them on some youtube channel. it’s just revolting to watch.

Can these men appear more insincere?

Herd mocks JWs constantly, it seems like he has nothing but contempt for them. He’s the most insincere, evil lunatic on the entire gov body.

Can JWs not see it?

 

[The God Pill]

Thanks for sharing your story. The info I’ve seen on this topic is largely based on anecdotal evidence such as the story you shared above - or the story @Citrine shared. I’ve said it a million times - correlation does not prove causation. It just doesn’t.

Why do some people claim that being in close contact with the vaccinated seems to cause illness - while others in the same circumstance or worse - have no issues? To be fair, if I apply the same standard of evidence you’re presenting, substituting my own experience for yours, it would be easy for me to say that the shedding claim is a falsehood. I could just as easily explain your examples away as circumstance or coincidence. I’m not doing that. But it’s the same argument - just reversed.

I’ll continue to hope that I come across some sort of scientific evidence one way or another - and I’ll be open to either.

Maybe anti spike protein antibodies from acquired natural immunity. My blood was tested in late 2021 and I have 115 times the level of the specific antibody niche that's adequate to handle covid. We don't know if and how much the nanotech and mrna sheds from mere proximity to people, sharing air, contact with objects they've touched etc but we do know at minimum the prion like spike protein is shed since countless cells of the vaccinated people have been programmed to manufacture it with no off switch.

 

[Jennifer]

i’ve been saying this very thing since last summer.

I just watched Sanderson engage in a whine-fest for JWs to help build Ramapo for them on some youtube channel. it’s just revolting to watch.

Can these men appear more insincere?

Herd mocks JWs constantly, it seems like he has nothing but contempt for them. He’s the most insincere, evil lunatic on the entire gov body.

Can JWs not see it?

I don’t think they can see it Kim.

I do think they’re scared and confused and rightly so. So much has happened over the last few years, I’m convinced they know that “something “ is up. For some reason they can’t put their finger on it.

It’s tragic to watch this unfolding but they’ll be okay.. eventually. Those who are truly there for Jehovah will make it out alright. Look at how many are on the forum now compared to when it started, plus all the “lurkers”

Always love to see your comments here Kim. You make a lot of sense
Hope you’re doing well

 

[Carl]

Thanks for sharing your story. The info I’ve seen on this topic is largely based on anecdotal evidence such as the story you shared above - or the story @Citrine shared. I’ve said it a million times - correlation does not prove causation. It just doesn’t.

Why do some people claim that being in close contact with the vaccinated seems to cause illness - while others in the same circumstance or worse - have no issues? To be fair, if I apply the same standard of evidence you’re presenting, substituting my own experience for yours, it would be easy for me to say that the shedding claim is a falsehood. I could just as easily explain your examples away as circumstance or coincidence. I’m not doing that. But it’s the same argument - just reversed.

I’ll continue to hope that I come across some sort of scientific evidence one way or another - and I’ll be open to either.

As with so much in Satan's world, the truth about shedding may never be admitted. I'm inclined to believe in shedding based on a few facts. I've read news reports about outbreaks of measles and other diseases that were caused by the recently vaxed. I know some ICUs have signage asking the recently vaxed to stay out. And then there's my experience.

I believe the reaction some are having to vaxed individuals is an allergic-toxic mix. I'm not completely sold on terrain or germ theory, and don't wish to see them debated here, but believe both play a part. I do know there are some people who could walk through a crowd of infected or vaxed people and never get sick... while others could get sick after being around just one. The reason has to due with how their immune system functions. Some people are just healthier than others. One person can smoke a pack a day until they're 85, then die of some unrelated cause, while another can get lung cancer from second hand smoke and die at 35.

The weird thing about my case was that I was suffering from extreme fatigue and a racing heart all summer, then in late September I caught COVID from a friend. There were four of us playing Pinnacle, two were vaxed. One vaxed friend was symptomatic, and found out the next day he was positive. I became symptomatic, that pre-cold feeling, within 30 minutes of being in his presence, and was sick the next day. No infection works within 30 minutes, that was 100% an allergic reaction. Neither of the other friends became sick. Why? Who knows.

My conclusion is that shedding, either from being freshly vaxed, which induces viral spike protein production to teach the immune system what to fight, or active infection spreads either an infection or a toxic reaction. Both seem to be shedding something, which has well documented in the past. Current studies may not show this due to where they get their grants. I believe the sick spread more than the spike protein, which causes illness/infection in some, while the freshly vaxed are just spreading the spike protein (by design), which causes an immune-allergic reaction in some. BOTH will appear symptomatic and could be diagnosed with active infection knowing how loose the standards have been for diagnosis of COVID. They probably designed this vaccine to spread vaccination to the unvaxed, which has been discussed.

 

[Carl]

I do think they’re scared and confused and rightly so. So much has happened over the last few years, I’m convinced they know that “something “ is up. For some reason they can’t put their finger on it.

Emotions take control when you're scared, and Satan's propaganda machine ginned up a lot of fear about COVID's lethality. Now that things seem to be normalizing, hopefully JWs will wake up and realize they've been misled by the GB/WT. The Bible tells us there will be some who will NEVER wake up. There are a lot of zombies in all walks of life, in perpetual "fight or flight" mode, which makes them easily deceived. We haven't even seen the big deception Satan has planned for us. It's up to us to reach those who can be reasoned with, and to let go of those who can't. Obviously we should never stop trying to reach everyone with the truth about COVID, the economy, the coming war and especially the Truth... but we shouldn't waste too much time on those who can't be reached. Our time is limited, we should spend it where there's more potential to bear fruit, and give what little time we can spare to what isn't sprouting. If we waste time on the hardhearted, we could fail to reach the meek individual who will listen.

 

[Sundial]

As with so much in Satan's world, the truth about shedding may never be admitted. I'm inclined to believe in shedding based on a few facts. I've read news reports about outbreaks of measles and other diseases that were caused by the recently vaxed. I know some ICUs have signage asking the recently vaxed to stay out. And then there's my experience.

I believe the reaction some are having to vaxed individuals is an allergic-toxic mix. I'm not completely sold on terrain or germ theory, and don't wish to see them debated here, but believe both play a part. I do know there are some people who could walk through a crowd of infected or vaxed people and never get sick... while others could get sick after being around just one. The reason has to due with how their immune system functions. Some people are just healthier than others. One person can smoke a pack a day until they're 85, then die of some unrelated cause, while another can get lung cancer from second hand smoke and die at 35.

The weird thing about my case was that I was suffering from extreme fatigue and a racing heart all summer, then in late September I caught COVID from a friend. There were four of us playing Pinnacle, two were vaxed. One vaxed friend was symptomatic, and found out the next day he was positive. I became symptomatic, that pre-cold feeling, within 30 minutes of being in his presence, and was sick the next day. No infection works within 30 minutes, that was 100% an allergic reaction. Neither of the other friends became sick. Why? Who knows.

My conclusion is that shedding, either from being freshly vaxed, which induces viral spike protein production to teach the immune system what to fight, or active infection spreads either an infection or a toxic reaction. Both seem to be shedding something, which has well documented in the past. Current studies may not show this due to where they get their grants. I believe the sick spread more than the spike protein, which causes illness/infection in some, while the freshly vaxed are just spreading the spike protein (by design), which causes an immune-allergic reaction in some. BOTH will appear symptomatic and could be diagnosed with active infection knowing how loose the standards have been for diagnosis of COVID. They probably designed this vaccine to spread vaccination to the unvaxed, which has been discussed.

Yes, and I can no longer find the article demonstrating how this technique has been done for years by veterinarians, where a few vaccinated animals are intentionally introduced to the herd to transmit the vaccine to the rest. (I think in the example it was for sterilization). This could imply that the carrier agent could be introduced into  any type of vaccine for any purpose and spread silently. I'm sure they've thought this through...

 

[יהוה_saves]

I do think they’re scared and confused and rightly so.

hey Jennifer, back at ya! Everytime Australia is in the news i say a prayer for you and yours. I hope they’re easing up on you guys a little bit before the next hit comes. Lord knows they barely ease up on us here in the U.S..

in response to your comment- i agree with you completely. And it IS so tragic, because all they (we) ever wanted was to know and practice the truth, know who God is and Jesus Christ. Many are truly wicked “company men” but certainly not all.

barring PIMOs, I think the entire leadership from C.O. on up is beyond help (until/unless they mentally LEAVE this org.) but that’s my personal belief. it goes without saying, doesn’t it.

Anyway, i’m glad to be out of that contemptible organization. i wouldn't want it any other way.

Today i gather regularly with a small group of Christians, some are exjw but not all, and we discuss the bible, fellowship with each other, dissent or questions are never looked down upon, or mocked, and people are kind. if anyone is interested in checking it out please private message me. it in no way would take the place of this forum.

 

[BillyRay]

but we do know at minimum the prion like spike protein is shed since countless cells of the vaccinated people have been programmed to manufacture it with no off switch.

Thanks TGP…. Again, I’m keeping an open mind on shedding. I read statements like “we know this” or we know that”. But, how do we know? Where’s the science?

Look…. I’m no scientist. But I know that the spike protein is on the outside of the Coronavirus and is what binds to a receptor of the host cell to help the virus enter into the host cell. But the spike protein itself does not cause the Coronavirus.

There’s controversy as to whether the spike protein - on its own - can break the blood/brain barrier to create its own issue in the host.

But I’ve not seen anything that points to spike protein shedding being possible. In the one study out of India my Even if it was. It’s not a virus.

I can find some studies that say if shedding would cross the barrier, that this shedding is in minuscule amounts and hence cannot harm anyone.

But, I’m continuing to look into it.

 

[Carl]

Look…. I’m no scientist. But I know that the spike protein is on the outside of the Coronavirus and is what binds to a receptor of the host cell to help the virus enter into the host cell. But the spike protein itself does not cause the Coronavirus.

Based on my experience of showing symptoms after 30 minutes of exposure to a COVID positive friend, I believe there's something other than a viral infection going on here. I didn't have an infection, they don't happen that fast. According to germ theory, a virus causes illness by entering a cell, replicating until the cell bursts... rinse & repeat. No virus works within 30 minutes, there's an incubation period, which tells me my illness was an allergic reaction to something. Since then I've wondered if initially COVID was a chemical bioweapon, not a virus. It could have been delivered in the 2019-2020 flu vaccine? Or it could have been delivered by airplanes via the well documented high altitude aerosol delivery systems. We'll most likely never know, so I haven't spent much time researching it. I've actually stopped looking into a lot of the conspiracy theories I used to. I used to spend my mornings listening to different Bitchute channels, but now I listen to the Bible. I also watched a lot of alternative news videos, but now I watch dash cam videos of idiots driving, animal & poker videos and I love the cop cam vids.

 

[mts]

@Citrine

that’s crazy! And very sad to hear that JWs are resorting to telling lies to cover for the gov body’s lies. I’m so glad to be out of that spiritual filth- but i do have compassion for those still mentally stuck in it.

Maybe not go so far as being outright lies since omitting truths is not exactly a lie, or is it? Nonetheless, I believe some factors are in play here as to why jw's fear speaking up against the GB cvd-vax narrative. My thoughts are below and fall within having a fear of man (the GB) 'which is a snare' (Prov 29:25):

• fear of spiritual repercussions: loss of privileges, reputation, exemplary status or perhaps being df'd
• spiritual reprimand for spreading non-narrative, so-called creating divisions or conspiracy theories
• fear of effect on org; govt closure, censuring, losing tax exempt status, etc.
• fear of losing faith and trust that GB is guiding light, but not really?

Just brainstorming some thoughts on why in NY and across the globe, jw's are keeping quiet, even if an adverse reaction or death happens soon after a jab. This can't be kept suppressed forever, can it? We'll see.

 

[Eventhorizon]

Maybe not go so far as being outright lies since omitting truths is not exactly a lie, or is it? Nonetheless, I believe some factors are in play here as to why jw's fear speaking up against the GB cvd-vax narrative. My thoughts are below and fall within having a fear of man (the GB) 'which is a snare' (Prov 29:25):

• fear of spiritual repercussions: loss of privileges, reputation, exemplary status or perhaps df'd
• spiritual reprimand for spreading non-narrative, so-called creating divisions
• fear of effect on org; govt closure, censuring, losing tax exempt status, etc.
• fear of losing faith and trust that GB as guiding light, but not really?

Just brainstorming some thoughts on why in NY and across the globe, jw's are keeping quiet, even if an adverse reaction or death happens soon after a jab. This can't be kept suppressed forever, can it? We'll see.

For sure for elders we got a letter we had to read amongst ourselves telling us to listen, obey, and be oppressed or else!

BTW Sandy’s coat button is hanging on for dear life in that video