White Stone
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There are new faces on the recent videos. They may have been replaced with the brothers who complied.
New York - Read All About It!
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Yupyup_yup
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Most likely I think they did.... they appear not too bright
am I the only one who 'misses' Lett after his last appearance with a full blown up head
BARNABY THE DOG.
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Good for you. Happy outcome!Just had an amazing discussion with a sister we’ve know all our life! We haven’t spoken since 2020 and she lives within about 30 min from Bethel. She's always been a very by the book, rule follower type (high school teacher for 20+ years) and with her proximity to Bethel we just assumed she had gone along with the vx agenda. She contacted us about a minor health question unrelated to anything cvd and then the discussion started rolling! We did the usual tip toe comments and questions and then when we both figured out we were all 100% anti all thing cvd and vx she let the info fly! She is surrounded by all things Bethel and Bethelites and had an front row seat for all of the shenanigans! Here is what she reported -
There was huge conflicts with the vx within Bethel - it was not the smooth unity they want us to think it was!
Reports of sisters crying in their rooms not wanting the vx
Some passed out immediately after receiving the vx.
A brother mid 40s died in his sleep at Bethel and they’re keeping it quiet - that’s one that she knows of
The Bethelites in her congregation are experiencing massive sickness and disappear for weeks at a time
They had a recent local needs coming down HARD on social media and to only trust the MSM and to use Fact-check.com (she was appalled) they said that from the stage!
The narrative has changed to the GB never said the vx was anything but personal choice
Many elders stepping down now.
She tried to warn a pioneer sister about the vx and was turned into the elders for “wild talk”! They contacted her husband to discuss this on a shepherding call and he told them no and that there was nothing to discuss!
She is adamant the GB has no business going there with the vx and she now suspects a political motive! She’s almost there and I’m sure we helped give a little nudge
BARNABY THE DOG.
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Yes, I have noticed that about HQ. On the rare occasions I have wanted to contact bethel, I have found it impossible to do so, let alone contact anyone personally. Jesus never turned any away, but the GB want nothing to do with the proletariat!
mts
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Thank you @Citrine for sharing. Amazing post! Very believable (not that anyone doubts what you shareThere was huge conflicts with the vx within Bethel - it was not the smooth unity they want us to think it was!
Reports of sisters crying in their rooms not wanting the vx
Some passed out immediately after receiving the vx.
A brother mid 40s died in his sleep at Bethel and they’re keeping it quiet - that’s one that she knows of
The Bethelites in her congregation are experiencing massive sickness and disappear for weeks at a time
They had a recent local needs coming down HARD on social media and to only trust the MSM and to use Fact-check.com (she was appalled) they said that from the stage!
The narrative has changed to the GB never said the vx was anything but personal choice
Many elders stepping down now.
She tried to warn a pioneer sister about the vx and was turned into the elders for “wild talk”! They contacted her husband to discuss this on a shepherding call and he told them no and that there was nothing to discuss!
She is adamant the GB has no business going there with the vx and she now suspects a political motive! She’s almost there and I’m sure we helped give a little nudge
). I personally have friends that are/were recently invited to Bethel. Before being invited, the entire family was strongly against the vax. After being invited, they all (x3) went out and got it. What disturbed me most is the father's attitude when I touched on the vax risks (post Bethel invite), he said "we got that out-of-the way". As if it were a trivial decision ! Since then, we rarely talk and can't touch on the subject. The youngest, still in his teens, got really sick last year, which was not many months after the shots and going into Bethel, but recovered. They are not the ones to share these type of truths as your friend has. Makes it truly hard to compare/verify these experiences.In another experience of someone I know with two kids at Bethel... he was coerced by his wife to get the shot(s), even though he had already had a bad case of covid back in summer of 2020 and recovered. So, didn't he have antibodies? I went to visit him a year later and the wife was prying me for info, but I kept my answers neutral, as I didn't want to argue being in their house. The wife was very adamant about, "we need to follow the GB and if we don't obey now, what will you do in the future if they ask to do something else?" Uh-huh. I never agreed with her, but didn't pursue more conversation either. She knows my wife and I are not
and knows she should not try to impose it on us, nonetheless, she's doesn't like it. Too bad for her...At some point, things are going to get really bad (per your exam evidence, etc). I believe they will be scrambling to find volunteers to help & serve at Ramapo. What good is it to have all these grandious properties and plans but with no one to man them? Unless they have other plans we are unaware of that won't require jw volunteers
. Just speculating, not affirming.
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Carl
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It took incredible courage for people to stand up to the peer pressure. Thankfully I never felt pressured to take the shot, neither from my employer or my family. I did get very ill just being around my vaxxed sister & mother though, so now I avoid the vaccinated as much as possible. I'm normally in great healthy due to the many supplements I use, so I'm 100% sure it was from the vaccine somehow. My mom is visiting right now, and I developed a scratchy throat and some light lung congestion, which was how my other illness started. I asked if she was recently boosted, and she said no... but she lied about it the last time so who knows. There's no way to prove it's her, but what if I developed an allergy to her? We all breath in what others breath out...
My pre-cold feelings are likely unrelated, but it's the not knowing that bothers me and makes me uncomfortable around the vaxxed. I was so ill during the Summer of '21 that I wrote "Goodbye" letters, I really thought I was going to die.
Citrine
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@Carl being in close proximity to the vxd will absolutely make you have reactions and illness! We had this experience with my mother who is not vxd. My mother owns a very large house with a semi private studio apartment but shares the kitchen and laundry. A sweet young newly wed couple have rented it since 2018. They considered my mom like a grandma to them and they all got along great and my mom was happy to not be alone in the house. We all openly discussed that we were all opposed to the vx and even had discussions with them about shedding. Well we all know how attitudes changed with the GB updates and he was appointed a new MS at the same time. The couple started keeping more to themselves and they both started having random weird illnesses all the time. She suddenly started having severe migraines and he would be home sick for a week at a time not coming out of their room. This went on for several months and no one said anything but we had our suspicions. Then my mom started getting sick.It took incredible courage for people to stand up to the peer pressure. Thankfully I never felt pressured to take the shot, neither from my employer or my family. I did get very ill just being around my vaxxed sister & mother though, so now I avoid the vaccinated as much as possible. I'm normally in great healthy due to the many supplements I use, so I'm 100% sure it was from the vaccine somehow. My mom is visiting right now, and I developed a scratchy throat and some light lung congestion, which was how my other illness started. I asked if she was recently boosted, and she said no... but she lied about it the last time so who knows. There's no way to prove it's her, but what if I developed an allergy to her? We all breath in what others breath out...
She had a nonstop cough, was very weak, and could not get well. This went on for months with no let up, she worried she might die from it. We had enough and told my mom she needed to ask them if they had the vx or not and if they did they could not live there with her anymore. My mom got up the nerve and asked the wife and her exact words were “Yes when the GB said we had to be obedient but your sickness has nothing to do with us and it’s not your business what we decided!” My mom told them she was disappointed as she thought they were all on the same page and they had 30 days to move out. Long story short it caused quite a stir in the congregation, relationships soured over it, and the week they moved out my mom’s sickness and cough completely cleared up. It’s been about seven months since they moved out and my mom hasn’t been sick once.
BillyRay
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I’d bet that caused quite the stir in the congregation! They are still under the delusion that the vax was beneficial. They’ve probably never heard of shedding. Heck! I don’t even know if I believe in shedding. And being put out in the street with 30 days notice over shedding is - in their world - is unconscionable.@Carl being in close proximity to the vxd will absolutely make you have reactions and illness! We had this experience with my mother who is not vxd. My mother owns a very large house with a semi private studio apartment but shares the kitchen and laundry. A sweet young newly wed couple have rented it since 2018. They considered my mom like a grandma to them and they all got along great and my mom was happy to not be alone in the house. We all openly discussed that we were all opposed to the vx and even had discussions with them about shedding. Well we all know how attitudes changed with the GB updates and he was appointed a new MS at the same time. The couple started keeping more to themselves and they both started having random weird illnesses all the time. She suddenly started having severe migraines and he would be home sick for a week at a time not coming out of their room. This went on for several months and no one said anything but we had our suspicions. Then my mom started getting sick.
Citrine
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I probably should have included in there that the couple make very good incomes and are more than capable of caring for themselves. They just liked living with my mom because it was practically free and they could afford lots of vacations to Hawaii, cruises
, etc.
Carl
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My mom and sister think I'm crazy to believe they nearly killed me. It was so bad I asked my sister to call me in the morning to make sure I wasn't dead. The reaction by the vaxxed is either remorse or denial. Denial leads to anger, which will be a stumbling block to salvation if left unchecked. I believe 2023 is going to be the year those in denial face a choice; accept that the vax was not from Jehovah, and repent for their unloving attitude towards those they pressured and rejected... or double down and lose all credibility along with the WT. The WT will NEVER apologize, as it opens to door to litigation... and we all know they care more about $$$ than doing what's right in Jehovah's eyes.being in close proximity to the vxd will absolutely make you have reactions and illness! We had this experience with my mother who is not vxd. My mother owns a very large house with a semi private studio apartment but shares the kitchen and laundry. A sweet young newly wed couple have rented it since 2018. They considered my mom like a grandma to them and they all got along great and my mom was happy to not be alone in the house. We all openly discussed that we were all opposed to the vx and even had discussions with them about shedding. Well we all know how attitudes changed with the GB updates and he was appointed a new MS at the same time. The couple started keeping more to themselves and they both started having random weird illnesses all the time. She suddenly started having severe migraines and he would be home sick for a week at a time not coming out of their room. This went on for several months and no one said anything but we had our suspicions. Then my mom started getting sick.
I believe the MSM may shift the narrative and blame some low level scientists and bureaucrats once critical mass hits... ***IF*** Congress has hearings looking into all things COVID. Same thing with the FBI and other agencies for their lies. Nothing will be done, but the truth about the vaccines will come out... but only a partial truth. There will be no admission of it being an intentional bioweapon, nor will there be an official apology for the draconian measures employed by the government. In fact, the government will defend their actions, and blame a few retired rotten apples. Nobody will go to jail, but at least the GB will have been exposed. That or WWIII kicks off which will make COVID yesterday's news. WWIII looks likely, but nothing is guaranteed.
SusanB
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Interesting. That is how the tech industries do it, like Uber. They make it almost impossible to actually contact them. I see there is a link to request a visit but no area to make a comment. You can only input your contact info.
SusanB
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I have no doubt this is one of the ways they stack the deck.
SusanB
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I forget who said it originally but I have seen it said online, “When telling the truth becomes a crime, you are ruled by criminals”.Thank you @Citrine for sharing. Amazing post! Very believable (not that anyone doubts what you share
In another experience of someone I know with two kids at Bethel... he was coerced by his wife to get the shot(s), even though he had already had a bad case of covid back in summer of 2020 and recovered. So, didn't he have antibodies? I went to visit him a year later and the wife was prying me for info, but I kept my answers neutral, as I didn't want to argue being in their house. The wife was very adamant about, "we need to follow the GB and if we don't obey now, what will you do in the future if they ask to do something else?" Uh-huh. I never agreed with her, but didn't pursue more conversation either. She knows my wife and I are not
At some point, things are going to get really bad (per your exam evidence, etc). I believe they will be scrambling to find volunteers to help & serve at Ramapo. What good is it to have all these grandious properties and plans but with no one to man them? Unless they have other plans we are unaware of that won't require jw volunteers
SusanB
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I know the shedding seems like a crazy conspiracy theory but it is true and it is based on known science. They speculate it has to do with exosomes.@Carl being in close proximity to the vxd will absolutely make you have reactions and illness! We had this experience with my mother who is not vxd. My mother owns a very large house with a semi private studio apartment but shares the kitchen and laundry. A sweet young newly wed couple have rented it since 2018. They considered my mom like a grandma to them and they all got along great and my mom was happy to not be alone in the house. We all openly discussed that we were all opposed to the vx and even had discussions with them about shedding. Well we all know how attitudes changed with the GB updates and he was appointed a new MS at the same time. The couple started keeping more to themselves and they both started having random weird illnesses all the time. She suddenly started having severe migraines and he would be home sick for a week at a time not coming out of their room. This went on for several months and no one said anything but we had our suspicions. Then my mom started getting sick.
MickHewitt
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Unit 731 of the WW2 Japanese Bio weopen unit was assimilated into the CDC after the war. They had been experimenting with Russian and Chinese victims with the purpose of genocide. We can be sure they have come up with some way of transmitting or shedding this galloping virus through vax's
BillyRay
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They must not have had a lease - or it was at the end of the lease. Had they been under lease in my state, there’s nothing your Mom could have legally done to evict them - unless they somehow violated the lease. And even then it would have to be an egregious violation to get an eviction granted. So the fact that they were friends probably worked in your Mom’s favor.I probably should have included in there that the couple make very good incomes and are more than capable of caring for themselves. They just liked living with my mom because it was practically free and they could afford lots of vacations to Hawaii, cruises
I mentioned that I’m not convinced that shedding is a thing. Our personal experiences tend to play a part in our viewpoints. The example you give with your Mom is quite convincing. On the other hand. For four months of the year, I work closely with 14 men who are all vaxed and boosted to the max. I’m also around 60-70 students during this time - of which 90% of them are vaxed. Yet I didn’t fall ill despite being surrounded by vaxxed people every day. So I’m not sure what that means in relation to the shedding issue. I have an open mind on the topic, though.
mts
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So, here is an interesting story on vax shedding that made me more convinced it is a thing, scientifically backed or not. Like @BillyRay, not 100% sure it is a thing in the respect that it impacts everyone the same.
So an unvaxd friend (4 members) was housing family for about three months. The visiting family adults were vxd + boosted (kids not). Prior to their visit, no real health problems and rarely sick for any longer than a few days. Okay, not only were the visiting members sick, the dad was coughing up-a-storm and didn't look well, he said. My friend says he finally told him to get checked by a doctor. Oh, note, mr. sickly worked from home too. They were in close quarters, sharing meals, etc. for the time of the stay. After they left, my friend started to get really sick, coughing consistently, pain in chest, etc. Toughed it out for a while and finally went to doc. Doc checked for covid, but tests came back negative multiple times. Doc finally did a blood test; came back sixty-percent positive for the spike protein
. In addition, the doc said he had walking-pneumonia and other lung issues. Doc said his lungs showed some strange things going on. In any case, he was out-of-work for 3-weeks to recuperate. Since then, he and his family repeatedly get sick; one reason being 1 kid in school with sickly vxd kids attending. They are still not vxd, but 1 kid in public school and most other family vxd + boosted, which they interact with at times, has to be the main reason for their getting sick. I've known them for years and this is the only major change in their life, so, whether it's 100% true or provable, this is more than just a random thing. I believe @Citrine and the believe-able experiences and evidence regarding what's really happening with many of those who got the +. Thank you again Citrine for sharing!!
SusanB
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Right and doctors are reporting similar findings.So, here is an interesting story on vax shedding that made me more convinced it is a thing, scientifically backed or not. Like @BillyRay, not 100% sure it is a thing in the respect that it impacts everyone the same.
So an unvaxd friend (4 members) was housing family for about three months. The visiting family adults were vxd + boosted (kids not). Prior to their visit, no real health problems and rarely sick for any longer than a few days. Okay, not only were the visiting members sick, the dad was coughing up-a-storm and didn't look well, he said. My friend says he finally told him to get checked by a doctor. Oh, note, mr. sickly worked from home too. They were in close quarters, sharing meals, etc. for the time of the stay. After they left, my friend started to get really sick, coughing consistently, pain in chest, etc. Toughed it out for a while and finally went to doc. Doc checked for covid, but tests came back negative multiple times. Doc finally did a blood test; came back sixty-percent positive for the spike protein
BillyRay
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Thanks for sharing your story. The info I’ve seen on this topic is largely based on anecdotal evidence such as the story you shared above - or the story @Citrine shared. I’ve said it a million times - correlation does not prove causation. It just doesn’t.So, here is an interesting story on vax shedding that made me more convinced it is a thing, scientifically backed or not. Like @BillyRay, not 100% sure it is a thing in the respect that it impacts everyone the same.
So an unvaxd friend (4 members) was housing family for about three months. The visiting family adults were vxd + boosted (kids not). Prior to their visit, no real health problems and rarely sick for any longer than a few days. Okay, not only were the visiting members sick, the dad was coughing up-a-storm and didn't look well, he said. My friend says he finally told him to get checked by a doctor. Oh, note, mr. sickly worked from home too. They were in close quarters, sharing meals, etc. for the time of the stay. After they left, my friend started to get really sick, coughing consistently, pain in chest, etc. Toughed it out for a while and finally went to doc. Doc checked for covid, but tests came back negative multiple times. Doc finally did a blood test; came back sixty-percent positive for the spike protein
Why do some people claim that being in close contact with the vaccinated seems to cause illness - while others in the same circumstance or worse - have no issues? To be fair, if I apply the same standard of evidence you’re presenting, substituting my own experience for yours, it would be easy for me to say that the shedding claim is a falsehood. I could just as easily explain your examples away as circumstance or coincidence. I’m not doing that. But it’s the same argument - just reversed.
I’ll continue to hope that I come across some sort of scientific evidence one way or another - and I’ll be open to either.