Our first time speaking out and experience!

Seadog

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Oh it goes beyond that! The GB had the audacity to publish WT study articles praising themselves and their god given insight! Can you imagine sitting in the KH with the poison jab coursing through your body and having to regurgitate praise for the very men that pressured you to poison yourself?! I’ve never wanted hell 🔥 to be real until these last few years!
Go Citrine!!!
 

Nomex

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The GB had the audacity to publish WT study articles praising themselves and their god given insight! Can you imagine sitting in the KH with the poison jab coursing through your body and having to regurgitate praise for the very men that pressured you to poison yourself?! I’ve never wanted hell 🔥 to be real until these last few years!
Like I keep saying, "they are the 'faithful and discreet slave', just ask them!" It really is remarkable too when you think about it, saying you are a thing, is not discreet in the slightest!
 

Nomex

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Not being discreet...it kind of seems to me that there might be a scripture or two, about this very thing...I wonder what it could be...Oh, wait I think I have it..."Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord,z did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works* in your name?’a 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew* you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’"
Kind of gives new meaning to "that is where the weeping and the gnashing of their teeth will be." I can especially imagine , Splane pointing to heaven when he makes this declaration.
 

Citrine

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Not being discreet...it kind of seems to me that there might be a scripture or two, about this very thing...I wonder what it could be...Oh, wait I think I have it..."Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord,z did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works* in your name?’a 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew* you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’"
Kind of gives new meaning to "that is where the weeping and the gnashing of their teeth will be." I can especially imagine , Splane pointing to heaven when he makes this declaration.
That slimy lizard 🦎 makes my skin crawl! They can never walk back what he did!
 

Wide Awake

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Literally Same story for us too 😢
So sorry to hear that! We were physically ill over some things said and done to us. Looking back, we are glad to know the truth and believe Jehovah answered our prayers. Sadly, it doesn’t change what has happened to those injured and we still deal with that daily. We are sure the new 20 yr old elders will probably boot us out soon, but we will very carefully try to get our family to wake up first. That said we do not want to wreck anyones faith, so it has to be their decision and in their own time. They do not know where we stand outside of the VAXX and even that has to be a conversation we tread lightly on except one, and that is what gives us hope.
 

Soul Sage

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The pandemic caused more people to be aware (at least some of us) that this earthly organization is not perfect. Just like Israel was not perfect even though they had a big part in keeping God's word alive. There was nothing biblical about taking a genetically modified substance in your bloodstream. It's supposed to be sacred, your body is like a temple.
There was no problem with directions on staying clean. I washed my hands often. And masks don't work. That's surface level thinking to believe they do. When you actually study about masks, you find out that masks collect bacteria and dirt and many people would reuse those same masks and keep them on, they would collect bacteria on them and that could make them sick. It also handicaps your breathing in fresh air, which actually makes your immune system worse, the less fresh air you take in. Especially for hours at a time. I remember being forced to wear a mask during certain events for a few hours and I would feel worse and irritable because my body was reacting to the poor breathing I had when wearing that mask for hours.
Anyone can try this themselves in an accelerated way. Try doing intense exercises while wearing a mask and you'll later realize you feel like you might be getting sick or you feel bad internally. Well congratulations, you just made your immune system weaker. That's why I was against masks, it was obvious!
 

Seadog

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So sorry to hear that! We were physically ill over some things said and done to us. Looking back, we are glad to know the truth and believe Jehovah answered our prayers. Sadly, it doesn’t change what has happened to those injured and we still deal with that daily. We are sure the new 20 yr old elders will probably boot us out soon, but we will very carefully try to get our family to wake up first. That said we do not want to wreck anyones faith, so it has to be their decision and in their own time. They do not know where we stand outside of the VAXX and even that has to be a conversation we tread lightly on except one, and that is what gives us hope.
Just confide in a couple of people you’re reading Bro King and in no time the young uns ( and the old ones) will be after your ass. It’s worse than dissing the clot shot mantra😅. I’m the shunned proof.
 

Wide Awake

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Just confide in a couple of people you’re reading Bro King and in no time the young uns ( and the old ones) will be after your ass. It’s worse than dissing the clot shot mantra😅. I’m the shunned proof.
Maybe if we offer the 20yr olds alcohol they will let us off the hook??
As for shunning we are sorry for being ones who did that to others including family in the past. Thank you for being so kind!
 

StopTheInsanity

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So sorry to hear that! We were physically ill over some things said and done to us. Looking back, we are glad to know the truth and believe Jehovah answered our prayers. Sadly, it doesn’t change what has happened to those injured and we still deal with that daily. We are sure the new 20 yr old elders will probably boot us out soon, but we will very carefully try to get our family to wake up first. That said we do not want to wreck anyones faith, so it has to be their decision and in their own time. They do not know where we stand outside of the VAXX and even that has to be a conversation we tread lightly on except one, and that is what gives us hope.
For you and anyone else who needs to hear this: Jehovah is going to heal ALL of the injured, bind up the broken hearted, and resurrect all those who died.

The only "good" that can come from this is that at least they died and won't have to go through the "fun" that awaits the rest of us. :rolleyes:

We are the "300 men" that are left with Gideon. Jehovah has seen something in all of us that he knows he can work with: be it faith, discernment, whatever.

But, as painful as this all has been, it WILL be made right again and we WILL be smiling and light-hearted again. We MUST believe that. If nothing else, don't ever let these scoundrels take your faith. Jehovah didn't do this; wicked and decietful men did this and as always, Jehovah warned us that about them and Christ told us that there would be wolves in sheeps clothing and that people would be stumbled and that people would betray us but we didn't fully understand because WT didn't explain it to us because WT WAS GOING TO BE THE ONE TO DO IT TO US so why would they warn us????

The apostles didn't fully understand everything about how and why Christ was going to die, and they were stumbled, but after his resurrection, they understood all things and were BOLD for Jehovah.

So here we all are.
 

Wide Awake

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For you and anyone else who needs to hear this: Jehovah is going to heal ALL of the injured, bind up the broken hearted, and resurrect all those who died.

The only "good" that can come from this is that at least they died and won't have to go through the "fun" that awaits the rest of us. :rolleyes:

We are the "300 men" that are left with Gideon. Jehovah has seen something in all of us that he knows he can work with: be it faith, discernment, whatever.

But, as painful as this all has been, it WILL be made right again and we WILL be smiling and light-hearted again. We MUST believe that. If nothing else, don't ever let these scoundrels take your faith. Jehovah didn't do this; wicked and decietful men did this and as always, Jehovah warned us that about them and Christ told us that there would be wolves in sheeps clothing and that people would be stumbled and that people would betray us but we didn't fully understand because WT didn't explain it to us because WT WAS GOING TO BE THE ONE TO DO IT TO US so why would they warn us????

The apostles didn't fully understand everything about how and why Christ was going to die, and they were stumbled, but after his resurrection, they understood all things and were BOLD for Jehovah.

So here we all are.
Yes, thank you so much for those words and reminders! We actually feel closer to Jehovah now more than ever! You all have been so wonderful and it is helping!
 

Soul Sage

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For you and anyone else who needs to hear this: Jehovah is going to heal ALL of the injured, bind up the broken hearted, and resurrect all those who died.

The only "good" that can come from this is that at least they died and won't have to go through the "fun" that awaits the rest of us. :rolleyes:

We are the "300 men" that are left with Gideon. Jehovah has seen something in all of us that he knows he can work with: be it faith, discernment, whatever.

But, as painful as this all has been, it WILL be made right again and we WILL be smiling and light-hearted again. We MUST believe that. If nothing else, don't ever let these scoundrels take your faith. Jehovah didn't do this; wicked and decietful men did this and as always, Jehovah warned us that about them and Christ told us that there would be wolves in sheeps clothing and that people would be stumbled and that people would betray us but we didn't fully understand because WT didn't explain it to us because WT WAS GOING TO BE THE ONE TO DO IT TO US so why would they warn us????

The apostles didn't fully understand everything about how and why Christ was going to die, and they were stumbled, but after his resurrection, they understood all things and were BOLD for Jehovah.

So here we all are.

Yes, great bible application. The 300 men were chosen because even if they were part of the army of Gideon as their leader, they were still very cautious about their surroundings. They didn't let their guard down when drinking water just cause Gideon was anointed over them. Same can be said about the GB. I don't let my guard down just because the GB may say so. I still stay cautious.
 

Nomex

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Oh my goodness I think Nomex and I should team up and just burn 🔥 WT to the ground and be done with it already!
HAHA...Thanks for that. We'd be a team to be feared, and they'd run for the hills the minute they caught sight of us...LOL. I do try to maintain my sense of humor in all of this, because it's "laugh or cry" and I prefer to laugh. It is "gallows humor" but still better than no humor. I was thinking about the comment you made about them

The GB had the audacity to publish WT study articles praising themselves and their god given insight!
The thing is, they have always done this, it just wasn't so much "in our face" as it has been ever since launching JW.org. We of course took them at their word, and believed we had good evidence they were who they said they were. But now that you think back on it, they have ALWAYS done this with every single comment, article etc, where they claim they are the F&S! They quote their own articles as their "sources" for so very much of what they claim is "proof" they have God's blessing.

And they love to compare themselves to Moses anytime anyone questions them. The question however, is, is comparing themselves to Moses a fair comparison? Well, if they went to compare themselves to Moses them they need to be held up to "the Moses standard." What was the first thing the "meekest man on the earth" did, when Jehovah wanted to send him to free the Israelite's? He asked Jehovah for proof to give to the Israelite's that Jehovah had actually sent him, proof in the form of tangible miraculous evidence, not a printing empire. WT's claim to fame is no different than any successful corporation.

But to put a fine point on it, the GB will say things like, "we know, or we have proof, that God appointed the F&S in 1918, 1919" etc...and what proof do we have? Them saying so, that's the proof. What has happened is we have all just become acutely aware of it. But it has always been this way, but prior to JW Broadcasting, it was way more subtle.

For example, anytime such comments were made for example, in a WT article or in any other published format, there was always that element of anonymity to it, they didn't "want credit." Which actually lent, to some degree, to their credibility.

But with the formation of JW Broadcasting, the veil has been lifted on the true nature and severity of their hubris and arrogance and for those of us here, it is and has been quite the shocker.

I'll say this too, in our defense, it does not make us naive or stupid for wanting to believe the best in the Org and even allowing ourselves to be fooled. That is a reflection of our nature and our faith, because it is in our nature to want to believe the best about "Jehovah's Organization." And that is possibly one of the most serious indictments of WT and the GB, and that is where the "wolves in sheep's clothing" illustration really takes root, IMO.
 
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