Sunshower
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I think they have a committee appointed to keeping an eye on what they deem dangerous. The e-watchman site sure falls into that category 😁It's a possibility.
I think they have a committee appointed to keeping an eye on what they deem dangerous. The e-watchman site sure falls into that category 😁It's a possibility.
Perhaps their death comes from the COVID "vaccine" and boosters that they are so happy to get.... as Robert says in bible prophesy judgement starts with the ‘house of God’ so the organisation will be attacked by Gog primarily the anointed (who are all put to death)
Dont get me wrong Zane I get your sentiment but I dont believe any of the 8 took that jab they so aggressively encouraged!Perhaps their death comes from the COVID "vaccine" and boosters that they are so happy to get.
(2 Corinthians 13:12) Greet one another with a holy kiss.Now WT mask rule, right on cue- further stifles already inhibited communication.
Thanks. What's interesting is how a governing body of 2012 retroactively declared the anointed Bible Students taking the lead in 1914-19 is the faithful slave appointed by Christ and then transitioned that to equal the governing body. This is laughable! Think about it, those brothers from 1914-1919 are all DEAD and so they would NOT be on hand when Christ comes. If that's the case then why would Jesus appoint them to the faithful slave? Makes zero sense, but the brothers just closed their minds and said Amen to their new bishops@KevinB
we can never know how many checked and compared the holy scriptures to the unscriptural rule by fiat that the Gov Body created for itself- like you said- the only way to know if any anointed brothers are checking and comparing the scriptures is when they speak out- yet when they do they’re silenced, or compelled to face a struggle session (judicial committee) and disfellowed.
It’s a near perfect system to inhibit communication. Now WT mask rule, right on cue- further stifles already inhibited communication.
The way some of these brothers and sisters deal with it is by leaking internal WT correspondence, acting as whistle blowers relating anecdotal experiences and observations to at least shine a light on the corruption.
Hopefuly faithful brothers and sisters find their way here or find alternative ways to convey scriptural truth, and the stark reality that the Gov Body, its legal team, corporate officers, helpers, COs and elders that uphold its unscriptural fiat rule, have turned the WT into the foretold apostate center of false worship that would develop immediately prior to Christ’s second coming.
thank you for the WT references and citations. para 12 - i see they’re still attaching their legitimacy to the 1914/1919 hoax. This can’t last much longer- their bucket of whitewash must be drying up by now. There will be no double-overlap of generations- it’s got to be a bridge too far even for the most indoctrinated JW.
Do you think the Gov Body reads this forum?
Mick, I couldn’t agree more. They surely believe they won’t die before their time or that Christ will whisk them away to heaven as they are “mucho importante“Dont get me wrong Zane I get your sentiment but I dont believe any of the 8 took that jab they so aggressively encouraged!
Any whorship related interaction with human governments is spiritual fornication. All religions including WT went to human governments to ask for permission to worship God. Initially WT was a publishing Corp. But then became state approved religion. Christians keep their interaction with human governments as far as admin matters. Beyond that it's not biblical.I have been giving thought to the Harlot of Rev17-19. I think it may represent ALL organized religion, including the CCJW. Even an organization that Jehovah himself designed (Israel) was eventually ruined when humans got in the middle of things. Jeremiah 10:23 doesn't just apply to human governments. All structures where humans take the lead end up looking the same. Even though WT rejects having a clergy class, they have instituted one in every meaningful way. Printed words don't change reality. I think Rev18:4 will apply to the CCJW, too.
Whorship....titter...very apt!Any whorship related interaction with human governments is spiritual fornication. All religions including WT went to human governments to ask for permission to worship God. Initially WT was a publishing Corp. But then became state approved religion. Christians keep their interaction with human governments as far as admin matters. Beyond that it's not biblical.
"And Jesus said to them, “Pay to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” And they were utterly amazed at Him."
Mark 12:17
"Pay to all what is due them: tax to whom tax is due; custom to whom custom; respect to whom respect; honor to whom honor."
Romans 13:7
Back to the roman times the emperor was considered god, and he expected his subjects to give him both the honour and the tax. When Christians started to give the honour to Jehovah the emperor started to become jealous and we know what happened to them.
" Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm.” Therefore Pilate said to Him, “So You are a king?” Jesus answered, “You say correctly that I am a king. For this purpose I have been born, and for this I have come into the world: to testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth listens to My voice.”
John 18:36-37
My sheep listen to My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give them eternal life, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.
John 10:27-29
They probably got the doses that were placebos.Dont get me wrong Zane I get your sentiment but I don't believe any of the 8 took that jab they so aggressively encouraged!
Thanks to one of your videos it was noticed and commented on that Nancy Pelosi's jab still had it's safety cap on!They probably got the doses that were placebos.
There is always danger for people who tell the truth….even for those who just think it, if watchtower standards are anything to go by. But if we are to expect danger for telling the truth at least there is some honour in it.I think they have a committee appointed to keeping an eye on what they deem dangerous. The e-watchman site sure falls into that category 😁
Kevin wrote “Think about it, those brothers from 1914-1919 are all DEAD and so they would NOT be on hand when Christ comes. If that's the case then why would Jesus appoint them to the faithful slave? Makes zero sense, but the brothers just closed their minds and said Amen to their new bishops”Thanks. What's interesting is how a governing body of 2012 retroactively declared the anointed Bible Students taking the lead in 1914-19 is the faithful slave appointed by Christ and then transitioned that to equal the governing body. This is laughable! Think about it, those brothers from 1914-1919 are all DEAD and so they would NOT be on hand when Christ comes. If that's the case then why would Jesus appoint them to the faithful slave? Makes zero sense, but the brothers just closed their minds and said Amen to their new bishops
What the GB are really saying is the OFFICE of the governing body was appointed back in 1919 and that each successive member appointed to the GB is hand picked by Christ. It is a type of succession to the apostles, but by divine appointment.
So they really did return to the vomit that came out of the mouths of the bishops in the 3rd century 🤮
You know what is really interesting, "brother" Losch supposedly left the Catholic church because of the teaching of the Apostolic Succession.
He is the ring leader in the apostacy of the GB.
*** w14 7/15 p. 19 Losing a Father—Finding a Father ***
Losch - "When I visited the priest, he could not answer my questions, but he pulled from his shelf a book on Catholic doctrine that dealt with apostolic succession. I took it home, as he suggested, read it, and returned with more questions. Finally the priest, not being able to answer my questions, said: “I cannot convince you, and you cannot convince me. . . . I wish you the best!” He did not want to have any more discussions with me."
When I questioned my elders and the governing body about this change in the faithful slave repeatedly 9+ years ago, guess what they ended up telling me a few years later - 'We will not here you any more on this matter'. And yes, I was disfellowshipped for my pursuit of answers on this subject and for accusing the GB of promoting a sect.
It was a purge, plain and simple.
Well Zane, it would be rather alarming manners to celebrate the day of one’s conception, especially in front of your parents. It would be worse still for you (if it could be) for your parents to celebrate the same with you. Can you imagine the conversation with your parents inviting you for a party, and their friends, beer in hand….”wait for it, wait for it, son.…waaaaait for iiiit YES! Happy birthday son!!!” And then they all sit down and go to sleep. Sometimes there is a reason why these celebrations are shifted to a more convenient and becoming time. My sister was born 14 February 1946, so everyone knew what father and mother were up to on VE Day. It wasn’t just the end of the war they celebrated.The day you were born, you were nine months old.
So it doesn't mark the beginning of life anyway.
I don't either.Dont get me wrong Zane I get your sentiment but I dont believe any of the 8 took that jab they so aggressively encouraged!
i don’t either. There’s no way- this shot is way too toxic for all 8 of them to have escaped adverse reaction- which i hate that term. it’s more like normal reaction- when people are poisoned they’re going to get sick and die.I don't either.
It's generally viewed that the feasts of Job's children were birthdays a few translations render it that is certainly not an interpretation watchtower's keen on entertaining. As a custom it certainly has accreted pagan elements over millenia that can be shed without treating the concept as Yule or Samhein or something. Pagan/Occult holiday calendar belowBible isn’t very clear on the whole birthday celebration thing.
Christmas has become a commercialized day where many families find it convenient to get together and eat a meal and watch football.
Most holidays have reverted into such.
Get togethers and meals with no particular emphasis on religion.
Can’t see Jehovah condemning to eternal damnation such ones.
I guess if you view it as a pagan ritual and then do it, it’s a sin.
exactly- what you describe is exactly what took place and right under the noses of JWs- in fact i once heard during a Zoom field service group some pioneers discussing who their favorite GB member is.Thanks. What's interesting is how a governing body of 2012 retroactively declared the anointed Bible Students taking the lead in 1914-19 is the faithful slave appointed by Christ and then transitioned that to equal the governing body. This is laughable! Think about it, those brothers from 1914-1919 are all DEAD and so they would NOT be on hand when Christ comes. If that's the case then why would Jesus appoint them to the faithful slave? Makes zero sense, but the brothers just closed their minds and said Amen to their new bishops
What the GB are really saying is the OFFICE of the governing body was appointed back in 1919 and that each successive member appointed to the GB is hand picked by Christ. It is a type of succession to the apostles, but by divine appointment.
So they really did return to the vomit that came out of the mouths of the bishops in the 3rd century 🤮
You know what is really interesting, "brother" Losch supposedly left the Catholic church because of the teaching of the Apostolic Succession.
He is the ring leader in the apostacy of the GB.
*** w14 7/15 p. 19 Losing a Father—Finding a Father ***
Losch - "When I visited the priest, he could not answer my questions, but he pulled from his shelf a book on Catholic doctrine that dealt with apostolic succession. I took it home, as he suggested, read it, and returned with more questions. Finally the priest, not being able to answer my questions, said: “I cannot convince you, and you cannot convince me. . . . I wish you the best!” He did not want to have any more discussions with me."
When I questioned my elders and the governing body about this change in the faithful slave repeatedly 9+ years ago, guess what they ended up telling me a few years later - 'We will not here you any more on this matter'. And yes, I was disfellowshipped for my pursuit of answers on this subject and for accusing the GB of promoting a sect.
It was a purge, plain and simple.