Seven Jehovah's Witnesses killed in Kingdom Hall shooting in Hamburg, Germany.

Paul H

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Picture of the shooter... according to German newsoutlet "Bild".
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German article HERE
BILD article HERE:

"After the deadly shots in the community rooms of Jehovah's Witnesses in Hamburg, in which eight people were killed and eight others were injured, some seriously, more details came to light. According to BILD information, it should be 35-year-old Philipp F., an employee of a business center."

according to another message on Twitter someone said: "Perpetrator Philipp F. (35) of the #Hamburg massacre describes himself on his company website as "multicultural" and "a self-proclaimed European"!"

According to police, the man shot a total of nine times while inside the building. He did so with a semi-automatic pistol, which he had legally bought in December.

On Friday afternoon, the Minister of Internal Affairs of Hamburg announced that there is also an unborn child among the fatalities. The girl would be born in about two months. The deceased persons are four men, two women, the unborn child and the perpetrator. About 50 people were in the building at the time of the shooting

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz shared his horror at the shooting on Twitter and expressed his condolences to the victims and relatives.

The perpetrator was a 35-year-old German, who was once a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses. Hamburg's Chief Prosecutor's Office confirmed reports from German media about the identity of the perpetrator. Why and when he left the religious group is not clear. Little is known about the man's motive.

According to the chief prosecutor, there is in any case no question of a politically motivated act. Police searched the man's home after the shooting. Among other things, fifteen full cartridge magazines were found. The perpetrator acted alone, according to police. There are no indications that there were multiple perpetrators, or that the perpetrator received help from someone else.

The Hamburg police chief stated that the perpetrator probably had mental problems. The man had no criminal record, but was known to the police. He had reported fraud in the past. The police recently gave him a warning, but did not consider further action necessary.
 
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Deborah

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One report I saw said that there is cell phone video of the shooter taking shots through a window, which could explain getting in after the doors are locked.

So incredibly sad. Sending prayers to all.
My concern with all these unfortunate shootings, suicides whatever, is how fragile the human mind is. We don't know the whole story yet but it did say former witness. Wonder where media got that terminology 🤔 hmmm. Did they talk with a witness affected (rhetorical?)

If gunman or others doing these horrible things are being shunned or angry about csa or anything about teachings, some just cannot peacefully move on. They don't get help for whole host of reasons. Some may have issues already. Their minds just reach that limit of sanity and all fuses blow.

I know Robert's commentary about these goings on and what the Bible says will be helpful in better understanding these ungodly things in our challenging times difficult to deal with. Looking forward to it.

These are just my ramblings. So sad.
 
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Watchman

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I know Robert's commentary about these goings on and what the Bible says will be helpful in better understanding these ungodly things in our challenging times difficult to deal with. Looking forward to it.

These are just my ramblings. So sad.
 

Watchman

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My long-time friend and webmaster, Timothy, sent me a link to an Amazon book published by the killer just a few months ago, in December 2022. It is entitled The Truth About God, Jesus Christ and Satan: A New Reflected View of Epochal Dimensions
In the intro he writes:
Never before has the attempt been made to make clear the interaction between heaven and earth and to make visible the influences of the spirit persons [God, Jesus Christ, Satan] on humanity, society and individuals. Contrary to popular belief, God, Jesus Christ and Satan are not abstract beings in heaven. No, rather we are dealing with very powerful spiritual beings who have feelings, just as we humans do, and therefore also act partly impulsively out of feelings. The signs of the times and the current world situation point to a certain imbalance, not only in our society.
It seems this book is some kind of psycho's manifesto, wrapped up in infantile bible gibberish.
 

Deborah

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WHOA POWERFUL (imo) If Bethel is lurking this should touch somebody up there.

Jehovah's blessing contingent on faithfulness, Ax is laying....... the scriptures
Thanks. WOW!!
 

Paul H

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From a Dutch news website:

"In January, an anonymous tip was reported to the police that Fusz may have suffered from a "mental disorder". Because he had a firearm, the police carried out a routine check. No suspicious facts came to light. Fusz had a gun permit and was not known as an extremist. He also had no criminal record. From his profile on Instagram, it can be concluded that he had his affairs in order - at least professionally and financially. Also from articles on his website – still online at the time of writing – it cannot be deduced that he had problems. It appears to be an intelligent, well-educated man. The motive may have to be sought in his religious beliefs. He recently published a book titled “The Truth About God, Jesus Christ And Satan. A New Reflected View Of Epochal Dimensions”.
 

SusanB

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I don't understand how this keeps happening when they lock the doors after the meeting starts and have brothers posted as door attendants. They said this happened at around 9 on Thursday evening so obviously a meeting was in progress.
On a side note, a brother just collapsed at the hall last night and was carried out by ambulance, I was attending on zoom but brother on stage had to stop the meeting for awhile....certainly scary times.
That’s what I was wondering if this was a parent of someone killed by the vaccine, but it sounds like it was someone DF’d about 18 months ago. I had heard a RUMOR when the brothers and sisters got vaccinated that someone big at the German Bethel died from the vaccine, but I was never able to confirm or get details.
 

Maybelle

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goldie

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That’s what I was wondering if this was a parent of someone killed by the vaccine, but it sounds like it was someone DF’d about 18 months ago. I had heard a RUMOR when the brothers and sisters got vaccinated that someone big at the German Bethel died from the vaccine, but I was never able to confirm or get details.
Yes, that's my understanding as well a "former jehovahs witness." So maybe in time we will get more details ...Scary times for sure!
 
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MickHewitt

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Yes, that's my understanding as well a "former jehovahs witness." So maybe in time we will get more details, but seems to be happening more frequently...Scary times for sure!
I'm trying to find corroboration for what I heard on my radio BBC early hours of the morning; An armed response officer just happened to hear shots as he was passing; he responded and maybe prevented many more from being killed?
 

goldie

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Wow VERY POWERFUL WORDS brother King...gave me the chills! Fantastic!
 
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Jehovahsloyalchild

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This was quite shocking when I first heard about it. It's certainly becoming more evident that Jehovahs protection and Holy Spirit is not present within the house of Isreal. They have profaned his name, they have worshiped him in vain and remain Spiritual blinded due to their lack of Faith and trust. They follow man and the WT as if it is Jehovah God himself. Their worship is in vain. The so called Spiritual Paradise is turning more and more into Spirital darkness, the light is getting dimmer and dimmer. The whitewashed walls are crumbling. The time is coming for all to open their eyes and their hearts... prove who they follow...the fine shepherd or the WT. Jehovahs day is near.

Micah 3
At that time they will call to Jehovah for help,
But he will not answer them.
He will hide his face from them at that time,
Because of their wicked deeds.
5 This is what Jehovah says against the prophets who are leading my people astray,
Who proclaim ‘Peace!’ while they bite* with their teeth
But who declare* war against him who puts nothing into their mouths:
6 ‘You will have night; there will be no vision;
There will only be darkness for you, no divination.
The sun will set on the prophets,
And the day will turn dark for them.
7 The visionaries will be put to shame,
And the diviners will be disappointed.
All of them will have to cover over the mustache,*
For there is no answer from God

Matthew 15
These people draw near to Me with their mouths and honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me.
They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.’”

Jehovah will show compassion to those who return to Him to those who fear Him, search for Him and put their faith in Him and Him alone as it is impossible to please God without Faith.. Jehovah God is a God who demands exclusive devotion. Many JW's have exhibited devotion to the GB and org not JEHOVAH!!!

Jeremiah 15
“If you return to me, I will restore you so you can continue to serve me. If you speak good words rather than worthless ones, you will be my spokesman. YOU MUST INFLUENCE THEM; DO NOT LET THEM INFLUENCE YOU

Psalms 103:13
As a father has compassion on his children, so Jehovah has compassion on those who fear him.

Isaiah 49:10
They will neither hunger nor thirst, nor will the desert heat or the sun beat down on them. He who has compassion on them will guide them and lead them beside springs of water.
 
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MickHewitt

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This was quite shocking when I first heard about it. It's certainly becoming more evident that Jehovahs protection and Holy Spirit is not present within the house of Isreal. They have profaned his name, they have worshiped him in vain and remain Spiritual blinded due to their lack of Faith and trust. They follow man and the WT as if it is Jehovah God himself. Their worship is in vain. The so called Spiritual Paradise is turning more and more into Spirital darkness, the light is getting dimmer and dimmer. The whitewashed walls are crumbling. The time is coming for all to open their eyes and their hearts... prove who they follow...the fine shepherd or the WT. Jehovahs day is near.

Micah 3
At that time they will call to Jehovah for help,
But he will not answer them.
He will hide his face from them at that time,
Because of their wicked deeds.
5 This is what Jehovah says against the prophets who are leading my people astray,
Who proclaim ‘Peace!’ while they bite* with their teeth
But who declare* war against him who puts nothing into their mouths:
6 ‘You will have night; there will be no vision;
There will only be darkness for you, no divination.
The sun will set on the prophets,
And the day will turn dark for them.
7 The visionaries will be put to shame,
And the diviners will be disappointed.
All of them will have to cover over the mustache,*
For there is no answer from God

Matthew 15
These people draw near to Me with their mouths and honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me.
They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.’”

Jehovah will show compassion to those who return to Him to those who fear Him, search for Him and put their faith in Him and Him alone as it is impossible to please God without Faith.. Jehovah God is a God who demands exclusive devotion. Many JW's have exhibited devotion to the GB and org not JEHOVAH!!!

Jeremiah 15
“If you return to me, I will restore you so you can continue to serve me. If you speak good words rather than worthless ones, you will be my spokesman. YOU MUST INFLUENCE THEM; DO NOT LET THEM INFLUENCE YOU

Psalms 103:13
As a father has compassion on his children, so Jehovah has compassion on those who fear him.

Isaiah 49:10
They will neither hunger nor thirst, nor will the desert heat or the sun beat down on them. He who has compassion on them will guide them and lead them beside springs of water.
Nice one JlC; may I just squeeze another scripture that complies lovely with Watchman's latest 'Massacre of Jehovah's Witnesses' post. With the endless watchtower brainwashing as to the spiritual paradise, after this shooting surely scripture at Lamentations 2:15 takes prominence "Those passing by whistle in amazement at the daughter of Jerusalem saying "Is this the city about which they said 'It is perfect in beauty...joy of all the earth!'"
 
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Jehovahsloyalchild

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Nice one JlC; may I just squeeze another scripture that complies lovely with Watchman's latest 'Massacre of Jehovah's Witnesses' post. With the endless watchtower brainwashing as to the spiritual paradise, after this shooting surely scripture at Lamentations 2:15 takes prominence "Those passing by whistle in amazement at the daughter of Jerusalem saying "Is this the city about which they said 'It is perfect in beauty...joy of all the earth!'"
Perfect scripture and absolutely ties in to what many must be thinking 💯
 
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