Sweden To Reactivate Civil Conscription In Response To Ukraine War

Watchman

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An article on Zero hedge states Sweden To Reactivate Civil Conscription In Response To Ukraine War

Although Sweden is only planning to call up 3,000 civilians it may expand in the future. As the proxy war between NATO and Russia gets hotter, I expect more nations will ramp up conscription. Depending upon the allowed exemptions, it may present some challenges for draft-age JWs--sisters included perhaps? In the United States, the last time there was a draft was during the Vietnam War. The war was so unpopular the draft created blowback as many hippies burned their draft notices. The resistance grew so powerful that the war hawks were forced to curtail their bloody little war in Asia. The politicians learned a lesson. Since then the military has been all-volunteer. However, if Russia rolls over Ukraine, as they are in the process of doing, the Anglo war party may go ballistic and put boots on the ground in Ukraine. It would be stupid and insane, but hey, the world is being driven mad anyway. So, we shall see. I don't think JWs in America are up to marching off to prison as conscientious objectors. :unsure:

This was one of the more popular antiwar songs back then

 
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jay

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An article on Zero hedge states Sweden To Reactivate Civil Conscription In Response To Ukraine War

Although Sweden is only planning to call up 3,000 civilians it may expand in the future. As the proxy war between NATO and Russia gets hotter, I expect more nations will ramp up conscription. Depending upon the allowed exemptions, it may present some challenges for draft-age JWs--sisters included perhaps? In the United States, the last time there was a draft was during the Vietnam War. The war was so unpopular the draft created blowback as many hippies burned their draft notices. The resistance grew so powerful that the war hawks were forced to curtail their bloody little war in Asia. The politicians learned a lesson. Since then the military has been all-volunteer. However, if Russia rolls over Ukraine, as they are in the process of doing, the Anglo war party may go ballistic and put boots on the ground in Ukraine. It would be stupid and insane, but hey, the world is being driven mad anyway. So, we shall see. I don't think JWs in America are up to marching off to prison as conscientious objectors. :unsure:

This was one of the more popular antiwar songs back then

I was pioneering at the time, not because of the war, and received a ministers deferment. Armageddon was coming in 1975.
 

jay

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I was eligible for the draft back then. Having been radicalized, though, I was contemplating skipping out to Canada. As it turned out the lottery system they used dealt me a number up in the 300s and they only got up to 100+ that year.
Lucky Robert, my draft card said I was 100% ready to go. Put your boots on. I think my brother was part of the lottery system.
 

Cosmicvii

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I’ve been talking to my wife, non-witness, about this issue. I’ve told her that should there be a draft, it’s a gurantee that I would be out on the list being so young, 32yo. I told her that she should prepare for the eventuality that I could and will go to prison should it come down to it. I’ve made it a matter of prayer and am trying to prepare myself mentally as much as I can. My biggest concern would be my two children and wife but I pray that jah and Jesus look over them should I end up in prison.
 
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An article on Zero hedge states Sweden To Reactivate Civil Conscription In Response To Ukraine War

Although Sweden is only planning to call up 3,000 civilians it may expand in the future. As the proxy war between NATO and Russia gets hotter, I expect more nations will ramp up conscription. Depending upon the allowed exemptions, it may present some challenges for draft-age JWs--sisters included perhaps? In the United States, the last time there was a draft was during the Vietnam War. The war was so unpopular the draft created blowback as many hippies burned their draft notices. The resistance grew so powerful that the war hawks were forced to curtail their bloody little war in Asia. The politicians learned a lesson. Since then the military has been all-volunteer. However, if Russia rolls over Ukraine, as they are in the process of doing, the Anglo war party may go ballistic and put boots on the ground in Ukraine. It would be stupid and insane, but hey, the world is being driven mad anyway. So, we shall see. I don't think JWs in America are up to marching off to prison as conscientious objectors. :unsure:

This was one of the more popular antiwar songs back then

World's going nuts, massive layoffs coming too, just in time for any draft. They need work somewhere
 

SusanB

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An article on Zero hedge states Sweden To Reactivate Civil Conscription In Response To Ukraine War

Although Sweden is only planning to call up 3,000 civilians it may expand in the future. As the proxy war between NATO and Russia gets hotter, I expect more nations will ramp up conscription. Depending upon the allowed exemptions, it may present some challenges for draft-age JWs--sisters included perhaps? In the United States, the last time there was a draft was during the Vietnam War. The war was so unpopular the draft created blowback as many hippies burned their draft notices. The resistance grew so powerful that the war hawks were forced to curtail their bloody little war in Asia. The politicians learned a lesson. Since then the military has been all-volunteer. However, if Russia rolls over Ukraine, as they are in the process of doing, the Anglo war party may go ballistic and put boots on the ground in Ukraine. It would be stupid and insane, but hey, the world is being driven mad anyway. So, we shall see. I don't think JWs in America are up to marching off to prison as conscientious objectors. :unsure:

This was one of the more popular antiwar songs back then

My fav all time song!
 

kirmmy

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I’ve been talking to my wife, non-witness, about this issue. I’ve told her that should there be a draft, it’s a gurantee that I would be out on the list being so young, 32yo. I told her that she should prepare for the eventuality that I could and will go to prison should it come down to it. I’ve made it a matter of prayer and am trying to prepare myself mentally as much as I can. My biggest concern would be my two children and wife but I pray that jah and Jesus look over them should I end up in prison.
Isn't it possible to join now as a conscientious objector where you wouldn't fight but work in a supply warehouse or as a cook? I thought even the WBTS has since changed on this and allows it now. Of course, in the end it would be up to your conscience.

If there's another major war, I believe nukes will be used. In that case, it won't much matter. Purple hair and proper pronouns won't save the US army.
 

robins

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I wonder when the Watchtower is going to start preparing sisters in Europe to face military conscription.

at this point, i wouldn't be surprised if the GB tried to spin that its okay now to fight in wars. In fact, maybe even Jah directs it!
 

Shekinah

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An article on Zero hedge states Sweden To Reactivate Civil Conscription In Response To Ukraine War

Although Sweden is only planning to call up 3,000 civilians it may expand in the future. As the proxy war between NATO and Russia gets hotter, I expect more nations will ramp up conscription. Depending upon the allowed exemptions, it may present some challenges for draft-age JWs--sisters included perhaps? In the United States, the last time there was a draft was during the Vietnam War. The war was so unpopular the draft created blowback as many hippies burned their draft notices. The resistance grew so powerful that the war hawks were forced to curtail their bloody little war in Asia. The politicians learned a lesson. Since then the military has been all-volunteer. However, if Russia rolls over Ukraine, as they are in the process of doing, the Anglo war party may go ballistic and put boots on the ground in Ukraine. It would be stupid and insane, but hey, the world is being driven mad anyway. So, we shall see. I don't think JWs in America are up to marching off to prison as conscientious objectors. :unsure:

This was one of the more popular antiwar songs back then

Conscription is something we don’t really think about, but it’s a reality we hope we’ll never have to experience 🙁
 
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