The jewish question

Jordan Seager

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I feel this topic is going to get controversial by posting this 😅 Please remove if it is though.

Wouldn't Israel doing what they do be a very basic form of nationalism? Being only with your own native race of people? Something that everyone is mostly against nowadays? Here in the UK, if a firm wants to hire only whites, it's considered discriminant or even racist, so the government implemented equality and diversity acts. Yet it seems to be ok for ethnic Israeli Jews to be with ONLY their own in Israel, yet it's not ok for Europeans to do the exact same? There are two solutions, allow Israel to become as multicultural and mass immigrated as Europe OR allow Europe to be... European again. Same goes for other non-European nations. How can one nation be so patriotic and nationalistic but ridicule others for doing the exact same? But this is Satan's system, not Jehovah's, where this one will fail every time where Jehovah's will succeed on the first attempt.

Oh boy, let's hope this doesn't spark off too much 😬 I am by no means a nationalist, but I do think every group of people (in this system) should at least have the choice whether they want to be with their own native ethnicity or not without being called a racist.

Remember ladies and gents, I WAS just a study, never actually become a Witness of Jehovah. A large portion of my good and bad conscience and my moral compass is still submerged into the disgusting slime pool that is Satan's system. But I am still trying to serve Jehovah to the best of my abilities.

And yes, I think mama is either a far right winger or has other ulterior motives. They (might) be an exjw attempting to divide us. We can't let that happen not as we're getting so close to the end.
 

LifeLearning

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You said:

We obey Jehovah and his son Jesus Christ Eh... I am not so sure of that. Why don't you read my topic - https://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/in...-said-as-often-as-you-do-it-in-remember.1121/ and think it over. You might find it interesting.
I made my post for others that might stumble upon, and read this thread, not to engage "mama".

I don't think "mama" is interested in the truth based on the constant barrage of posts without any consideration for all of the many thoughtful responses from people who have a reputation here. The response is always go here or go there and read my agenda. (also, "mama" could be harvesting people's info by doing this... and is more likely if "mama" is a fed paid troll.)

As others have said, "mama" will not have much success here, that is unless the objective is to waste peoples time. Either way "mama" will not last long because Watchman has a low tolerance for it.

All that said: a message for lurkers: new comers reading these posts: Please know that there are some really loving people here that are honest and have accurate knowledge of the truth... you are encouraged to join and introduce yourself!
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

Well-known member
You said:

We watch politics in order to better understand Bible prophecy. Me too! 2+2= 4, right? You like to believe that I am an ignorant fool, right?
Well, if I was I would not be trying to teach you what JW org did not teach you. "About obeying Jehovah and his son Jesus Christ".

https://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/in...-said-as-often-as-you-do-it-in-remember.1121/

LOL
You are a trifle late mama. Everyone here knows what the watchtower didn’t teach us, that’s the reason we are here, and if your opening gambit is an example of what you teach, I can assure you that in essence, nazism took the back seat on May 8th 1945. You could try anti-discrimination issues in disability if you want an axe to grind. That’s still rampant, or food or housing shortages. Just apply to your local political party office and they will have you distributing flyers within the hour. Set for life.
 

PJ54

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I feel this topic is going to get controversial by posting this 😅 Please remove if it is though.

Wouldn't Israel doing what they do be a very basic form of nationalism? Being only with your own native race of people? Something that everyone is mostly against nowadays? Here in the UK, if a firm wants to hire only whites, it's considered discriminant or even racist, so the government implemented equality and diversity acts. Yet it seems to be ok for ethnic Israeli Jews to be with ONLY their own in Israel, yet it's not ok for Europeans to do the exact same? There are two solutions, allow Israel to become as multicultural and mass immigrated as Europe OR allow Europe to be... European again. Same goes for other non-European nations. How can one nation be so patriotic and nationalistic but ridicule others for doing the exact same? But this is Satan's system, not Jehovah's, where this one will fail every time where Jehovah's will succeed on the first attempt.

Oh boy, let's hope this doesn't spark off too much 😬 I am by no means a nationalist, but I do think every group of people (in this system) should at least have the choice whether they want to be with their own native ethnicity or not without being called a racist.

Remember ladies and gents, I WAS just a study, never actually become a Witness of Jehovah. A large portion of my good and bad conscience and my moral compass is still submerged into the disgusting slime pool that is Satan's system. But I am still trying to serve Jehovah to the best of my abilities.

And yes, I think mama is either a far right winger or has other ulterior motives. They (might) be an exjw attempting to divide us. We can't let that happen not as we're getting so close to the end.
Just bear in mind that all this stuff is tied to Babylon the Great. Babylon will be judged & only those that escape will be spared from the plagues given to her. Here's an article that might be of use.
 

mama

New member
I feel this topic is going to get controversial by posting this 😅 Please remove if it is though.

Wouldn't Israel doing what they do be a very basic form of nationalism? Being only with your own native race of people? Something that everyone is mostly against nowadays? Here in the UK, if a firm wants to hire only whites, it's considered discriminant or even racist, so the government implemented equality and diversity acts. Yet it seems to be ok for ethnic Israeli Jews to be with ONLY their own in Israel, yet it's not ok for Europeans to do the exact same? There are two solutions, allow Israel to become as multicultural and mass immigrated as Europe OR allow Europe to be... European again. Same goes for other non-European nations. How can one nation be so patriotic and nationalistic but ridicule others for doing the exact same? But this is Satan's system, not Jehovah's, where this one will fail every time where Jehovah's will succeed on the first attempt.

Oh boy, let's hope this doesn't spark off too much 😬 I am by no means a nationalist, but I do think every group of people (in this system) should at least have the choice whether they want to be with their own native ethnicity or not without being called a racist.

Remember ladies and gents, I WAS just a study, never actually become a Witness of Jehovah. A large portion of my good and bad conscience and my moral compass is still submerged into the disgusting slime pool that is Satan's system. But I am still trying to serve Jehovah to the best of my abilities.

And yes, I think mama is either a far right winger or has other ulterior motives. They (might) be an exjw attempting to divide us. We can't let that happen not as we're getting so close to the end.

You foolish hypocrite! I can only imagine what Christ Jesus would have called you! Do you know Christ? Probably not, then you would have learned how he talked to His critics, not to mention the jews who screamed: Let it come blood over us and our ancestors!

And for the rest of the comments: hope you all fall in the pit when the times arrive. Such fools!
 

Patricia

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Recently my sister began delving into the family tree. Turns out one of the bloodlines through my paternal grandmother is German-Jewish. For some reason though we did not get brought into the Jewish conspiracy to rule the world. Oh well, this world is ready to go bye-bye anyways.
Same here. Germanic Jewish decent, not a lick of power or money. 😩
 

PJ54

Well-known member
You foolish hypocrite! I can only imagine what Christ Jesus would have called you! Do you know Christ? Probably not, then you would have learned how he talked to His critics, not to mention the jews who screamed: Let it come blood over us and our ancestors!

And for the rest of the comments: hope you all fall in the pit when the times arrive. Such fools!
May Jehovah & Jesus rebuke you spawn of Yaldabaoth.
 

Driven

Well-known member
I feel this topic is going to get controversial by posting this 😅 Please remove if it is though.

Wouldn't Israel doing what they do be a very basic form of nationalism? Being only with your own native race of people? Something that everyone is mostly against nowadays? Here in the UK, if a firm wants to hire only whites, it's considered discriminant or even racist, so the government implemented equality and diversity acts. Yet it seems to be ok for ethnic Israeli Jews to be with ONLY their own in Israel, yet it's not ok for Europeans to do the exact same? There are two solutions, allow Israel to become as multicultural and mass immigrated as Europe OR allow Europe to be... European again. Same goes for other non-European nations. How can one nation be so patriotic and nationalistic but ridicule others for doing the exact same? But this is Satan's system, not Jehovah's, where this one will fail every time where Jehovah's will succeed on the first attempt.

Oh boy, let's hope this doesn't spark off too much 😬 I am by no means a nationalist, but I do think every group of people (in this system) should at least have the choice whether they want to be with their own native ethnicity or not without being called a racist.

Remember ladies and gents, I WAS just a study, never actually become a Witness of Jehovah. A large portion of my good and bad conscience and my moral compass is still submerged into the disgusting slime pool that is Satan's system. But I am still trying to serve Jehovah to the best of my abilities.

And yes, I think mama is either a far right winger or has other ulterior motives. They (might) be an exjw attempting to divide us. We can't let that happen not as we're getting so close to the end.
I like that you are honest and it is true in this system there is no true equity and ”truth” is subjective to those not trained by bible knowledge. And, yes we must be careful in what we say. I think we all acknowledge we have common ancestors down to Noah and his family. No child is born with more condemnation than another of a different color of skin or ethnicity. We are all under Adamic sin and so we struggle. Your comments are appreciated and I think it is obvious you are a seeker of Jehovah and his righteousness.
 

Driven

Well-known member
I made my post for others that might stumble upon, and read this thread, not to engage "mama".

I don't think "mama" is interested in the truth based on the constant barrage of posts without any consideration for all of the many thoughtful responses from people who have a reputation here. The response is always go here or go there and read my agenda. (also, "mama" could be harvesting people's info by doing this... and is more likely if "mama" is a fed paid troll.)

As others have said, "mama" will not have much success here, that is unless the objective is to waste peoples time. Either way "mama" will not last long because Watchman has a low tolerance for it.

All that said: a message for lurkers: new comers reading these posts: Please know that there are some really loving people here that are honest and have accurate knowledge of the truth... you are encouraged to join and introduce yourself!
Yes, I spotted Mama early on and I think she revealed herself pretty clearly.
 

LifeLearning

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I am by no means a nationalist, but I do think every group of people (in this system) should at least have the choice whether they want to be with their own native ethnicity or not without being called a racist
The ruling elite benefit by dividing the people. Ethnicity is just one of many ways to divide. Wanting to "be with" (I take this to mean associate with) a certain race makes zero sense to me, but I do desire to "be with" god fearing, truth loving people. I got the sense that you were meaning that the original Israelites were of one race... maybe, but the Israel of god is from all the nations.

"Nationalist" is a buzz word... a quick-jolting word to trigger people, and it's that way because powerful people purposely endeavored to make it so. Same thing has been done to the word "Zion" Evil people have endeavored to make Zion something that it is not.

Jordan Seager: I did not take anything in your post as hypocritical. Don't get sucked in by the post saying hateful things. Our God wants us all to repent and put away the vial things of this world. (Eph4:14-24)

Now look! someone came up to him and said: “Teacher, what good must I do to gain everlasting life?” He said to him: “Why do you ask me about what is good? One there is who is good. If, though, you want to enter into life, observe the commandments continually.” (Matt19:16)
 

Truth_Seeker

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And this is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the Light; for their deeds were evil. For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light, so that his deeds will not be exposed. But the one who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds will be revealed as having been performed in God.”
John 3:19‭-‬21
 

Ms_ladyblue

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You foolish hypocrite! I can only imagine what Christ Jesus would have called you! Do you know Christ? Probably not, then you would have learned how he talked to His critics, not to mention the jews who screamed: Let it come blood over us and our ancestors!

And for the rest of the comments: hope you all fall in the pit when the times arrive. Such fools!
…”But let God be found true, even if every man be found a liar”… Romans 3:4
 
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Truth_Seeker

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After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all the tribes, peoples, and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands; and they *cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.”
Revelation 7:9‭-‬10

Jehovah and Jesus make no distinction between races or nationalities they only make a difference between good and wicked people. All who come to God are one nation.

“Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things? Can a land be born in one day? Can a nation be given birth all at once? As soon as Zion was in labor, she also delivered her sons. “Shall I bring to the point of birth but not give delivery?” says the Lord. “Or shall I who gives delivery shut the womb?” says your God.
Isaiah 66:8‭-‬9
 

BagdadBill

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Some days sure get interesting around here. I thought we went through the whole infiltration thing back in the 40s or so. Plus, most fed agencies would network with other groups and realize that GB joined the UN New World Order back in the late 80s. Even though they hid it from the rank and file at the time, it ought to buy us some brownie points somewhere. By the way, the secret meeting is on every third Tuesday. Don't forget the handshake or you won't get in. BYOB. Bring your own bible.
 

Jordan Seager

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You foolish hypocrite! I can only imagine what Christ Jesus would have called you! Do you know Christ? Probably not, then you would have learned how he talked to His critics, not to mention the jews who screamed: Let it come blood over us and our ancestors!

And for the rest of the comments: hope you all fall in the pit when the times arrive. Such fools!
This thread at this point.
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Yeah, best not to engage the troll. I'm bailing out here.
 

Driven

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Yeah, best not to engage the troll. I'm bailing out here.
Too bad but probably wise. Although I am going to still post because this has been on my mind this morning. We all know this scripture but I think it is a good starting point. Acts 10:34-35: “At this Peter began to speak, and he said: “Now I truly understand that God is not partial, but in every nation the man who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him“. This was really the case even before Jesus as any race or nationality could convert to the Jewish faith. The Jewish nation was told to remain separate only based on keeping their worship uncontaminated and never because of a different race/ethnicity or their ancestors. Look at the bible book of Ruth. She was a Moabitess. Ruth was never shunned because she was not a natural Israelite and yet she is an ancestor of Jesus.

Then Christianity was expanded to every nation without exception. So, this teaching of remaining separate based on physical characteristics or ethnicity or race, where does it come from? It does not come from Jehovah and there are only 2 sources. Take a guess at what is left. I do find it sad because I feel certain that the way Jehovah looks at people desiring separate communities based on race or ethnicity or nationality is like a family where the brothers and sisters don’t like each and refuse to get along. It is just sad. Now, that said, there are terrible people in every nation and sometimes because of cultural differences, no doubt inspired by Satanic influence, some nations seem to have an overflow of disturbing attitudes. I would not want to be an associate of criminals, rapists and the like. And, yet that could be people right now in my neighborhood and I would have no way of knowing it in most cases. Still we want to spread God’s message to all and let him decide who he wants to draw to him. And this scripture comes to my mind, Matthew 10:16: “Look! I am sending you out as sheep among wolves; so prove yourselves cautious as serpents and yet innocent as doves. “

Hopefully this makes sense and I only want to encourage based on the scriptures.
 

BagdadBill

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You foolish hypocrite! I can only imagine what Christ Jesus would have called you! Do you know Christ? Probably not, then you would have learned how he talked to His critics, not to mention the jews who screamed: Let it come blood over us and our ancestors!

And for the rest of the comments: hope you all fall in the pit when the times arrive. Such fools!

Do you have access to a New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures? If not, you can use the online copy on JW.org
Look up Matthew 5:22. Make sure you read it to the end.
 

Jordan Seager

Well-known member
Too bad but probably wise. Although I am going to still post because this has been on my mind this morning. We all know this scripture but I think it is a good starting point. Acts 10:34-35: “At this Peter began to speak, and he said: “Now I truly understand that God is not partial, but in every nation the man who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him“. This was really the case even before Jesus as any race or nationality could convert to the Jewish faith. The Jewish nation was told to remain separate only based on keeping their worship uncontaminated and never because of a different race/ethnicity or their ancestors. Look at the bible book of Ruth. She was a Moabitess. Ruth was never shunned because she was not a natural Israelite and yet she is an ancestor of Jesus.

Then Christianity was expanded to every nation without exception. So, this teaching of remaining separate based on physical characteristics or ethnicity or race, where does it come from? It does not come from Jehovah and there are only 2 sources. Take a guess at what is left. I do find it sad because I feel certain that the way Jehovah looks at people desiring separate communities based on race or ethnicity or nationality is like a family where the brothers and sisters don’t like each and refuse to get along. It is just sad. Now, that said, there are terrible people in every nation and sometimes because of cultural differences, no doubt inspired by Satanic influence, some nations seem to have an overflow of disturbing attitudes. I would not want to be an associate of criminals, rapists and the like. And, yet that could be people right now in my neighborhood and I would have no way of knowing it in most cases. Still we want to spread God’s message to all and let him decide who he wants to draw to him. And this scripture comes to my mind, Matthew 10:16: “Look! I am sending you out as sheep among wolves; so prove yourselves cautious as serpents and yet innocent as doves. “

Hopefully this makes sense and I only want to encourage based on the scriptures.
I'll bail back in for this 😅 This is actually good because it's gets everyone to know more about me.

But I'll say that once you see forced mass immigration and multiculturalism, I can see why people don't want it. If you force people to mix each others cultures as well as through races, mixing 1st and 3rd worlds into one, conflict will arise. London is one example. Now, this is my personal opinion, but if Jehovah created the races along with the languages that naturally separated into their own groups, which IS a form of diversity on earth, would that also mean Jehovah would want that to reverse? I also think it's a bit strange that this mass migration is going ONLY to 1st World nations. Especially the US and Europe. Creating a crisis.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

Well-known member
Too bad but probably wise. Although I am going to still post because this has been on my mind this morning. We all know this scripture but I think it is a good starting point. Acts 10:34-35: “At this Peter began to speak, and he said: “Now I truly understand that God is not partial, but in every nation the man who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him“. This was really the case even before Jesus as any race or nationality could convert to the Jewish faith. The Jewish nation was told to remain separate only based on keeping their worship uncontaminated and never because of a different race/ethnicity or their ancestors. Look at the bible book of Ruth. She was a Moabitess. Ruth was never shunned because she was not a natural Israelite and yet she is an ancestor of Jesus.

Then Christianity was expanded to every nation without exception. So, this teaching of remaining separate based on physical characteristics or ethnicity or race, where does it come from? It does not come from Jehovah and there are only 2 sources. Take a guess at what is left. I do find it sad because I feel certain that the way Jehovah looks at people desiring separate communities based on race or ethnicity or nationality is like a family where the brothers and sisters don’t like each and refuse to get along. It is just sad. Now, that said, there are terrible people in every nation and sometimes because of cultural differences, no doubt inspired by Satanic influence, some nations seem to have an overflow of disturbing attitudes. I would not want to be an associate of criminals, rapists and the like. And, yet that could be people right now in my neighborhood and I would have no way of knowing it in most cases. Still we want to spread God’s message to all and let him decide who he wants to draw to him. And this scripture comes to my mind, Matthew 10:16: “Look! I am sending you out as sheep among wolves; so prove yourselves cautious as serpents and yet innocent as doves. “

Hopefully this makes sense and I only want to encourage based on the scriptures.
You make the exact point both scripturally and socially. 👍
 
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