Finding Neverland

SpicySpice

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Cathy Obrien who is my neighbor and friend was a whitehouse MK-Ultra slave. This video was from 1995....listen how many times she talks about the New World Order from back then and references events that we see happening today. Her story is horrific. She is very active today and is getting her message out as to the plan of the New World Order.
You really know Kathy?!?!?!?!? WOW. Good to know shes still around. I think of her often. I read her book TRANCEformation of America when I was around 18 years old. It was so difficult to get through...the things she went through....
 

Melinda

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You really know Kathy?!?!?!?!? WOW. Good to know shes still around. I think of her often. I read her book TRANCEformation of America when I was around 18 years old. It was so difficult to get through...the things she went through....
Yes she is a very good friend of mine. We are neighbors here in Alabama. We both live on the Tennessee River. You should check out her new documentary.
 

SpicySpice

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We can’t in good conscience direct others to the org.
Same for my husband and I. How can I tell other people to join...or even conduct a serious bible study when I can barely stand it as it is? It tore my conscience up for a long time. For a while we started just directing people to try reading the Bible, and stopped recommending the website but then we decided to stop altogether. Being in service and listening to people go on and on about how scary convid is, how many tests they've taken and how excited they were for their next booster shot made me never want to return.
 

SpicySpice

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Yes she is a very good friend of mine. We are neighbors here in Alabama. We both live on the Tennessee River. You should check out her new documentary.
I would absolutely love to! Do you mind telling me what it is called?
Honestly Im just too surprised that you actually know THE Cathy O'Brien. She survived so many horrors. I remember in the book they did mind control with harmonics (or something like that) on her daughter and messed her up really bad with all of their experiments and ritual abuse. Do you happen to know if her daughter ever got better? Or if she ever got out of the bad situation she was in? I really do think of Cathy often, my heart broke for her again and again when I read her book.
 
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The God Pill

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I can sympathise with those sentiments jah-son. I was never at ease with door to door myself. I think part of the problem was that the meetings were rarely, if ever, encouraging. They always seemed to be negative. This is wrong, that is wrong, everything is wrong, and even that we ourselves are wrong and are just slaves doing as we aught to do. Our professions were wrong, the people we work with are full of evil, we have no place in or with the world, and even that we should not trust to our own heart motivation, but be guided in that by the GB. It is a wonder that any of us were happy.
On the familiar "hearts are treacherous" rhetoric the LXX words that passage quite differently on the heart.

9 The heart is deep beyond all things, and it is the man, and who can know him?
10 I the Lord try the hearts, and prove the reins, to give to every one according to his ways, and according to the fruits of his devices.
 

Melinda

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I would absolutely love to! Do you mind telling me what it is called?
Honestly Im just too surprised that you actually know THE Cathy O'Brien. She survived so many horrors. I remember in the book they did mind control with harmonics (or something like that) on her daughter and messed her up really bad with all of their experiments and ritual abuse. Do you happen to know if her daughter ever got better? Or if she ever got out of the bad situation she was in? I really do think of Cathy often, my heart broke for her again and again when I read her book.
This is Cathy Obrien and me at my home a couple of months ago. Here is one of her latest videos. Here daughter is still in Tennessee she did not get better. Cathy's husband Mark Phillips (who rescued her) died suddenly 3 years ago. Cathy has a young couple that lives with her. So she is not alone.
 

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Melinda

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I would absolutely love to! Do you mind telling me what it is called?
Honestly Im just too surprised that you actually know THE Cathy O'Brien. She survived so many horrors. I remember in the book they did mind control with harmonics (or something like that) on her daughter and messed her up really bad with all of their experiments and ritual abuse. Do you happen to know if her daughter ever got better? Or if she ever got out of the bad situation she was in? I really do think of Cathy often, my heart broke for her again and again when I read her book.
https://rumble.com/vnrf1h-cathy-obrien-talks-mk-ultra-mind-control-with-pete-santilli-october-14-2021.html
https://www.bitchute.com/video/5bKbDdWSFPZU/
https://www.cosmicnews.org/2021/10/09/cathy-obrian-mk-ultra-child-trafficking-ds-michael-jaco/
 

goldie

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Same for my husband and I. How can I tell other people to join...or even conduct a serious bible study when I can barely stand it as it is? It tore my conscience up for a long time. For a while we started just directing people to try reading the Bible, and stopped recommending the website but then we decided to stop altogether. Being in service and listening to people go on and on about how scary convid is, how many tests they've taken and how excited they were for their next booster shot made me never want to return.
But don't you feel we should still be witnessing about Jehovah?
 

Prodigal One

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Thank you for your thoughts. I can completely relate to how true your observations are. “Arrested development” is such an apt description. The only way to mentally survive the “operation of error” of being constantly in anticipation of Armageddon, is to suspend reality. Jesus encouraged us to live in expectation of his return, but I doubt he would of wanted Christian’s to endure two thousand years of faux martyrdom. Surely he would of wanted a healthy balance of living your best life possible in union with faith?
 

Melinda

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I would absolutely love to! Do you mind telling me what it is called?
Honestly Im just too surprised that you actually know THE Cathy O'Brien. She survived so many horrors. I remember in the book they did mind control with harmonics (or something like that) on her daughter and messed her up really bad with all of their experiments and ritual abuse. Do you happen to know if her daughter ever got better? Or if she ever got out of the bad situation she was in? I really do think of Cathy often, my heart broke for her again and again when I read her book.
SpicySpic I got an email today from Cathy Obrien...I wanted to share it with you She wrote the following:

I hope so! I want to see you so much. Check this confidential copy of an email I was just answering from a survivor of Jehovah’s Witness:

Loved your interview with Mel K and Dr. Ardis. I resonate completely with all 3 of you. Especially your message about love and truth. I was mind controlled by Jehovah's Witnesses for 45 years (along with 8 members of my family) I am the only one that left after learning about the 2015 major child abuse cover-up in the Australian Branch. They admitted during the Royal Commission court to 1006 pedophile cases with over 1800 victims and not a single case was reported to the authorities!!! Most victims do not come forward, so the number of victims is probably at least double. As an elder in the congregation for 40 years serving in 7 different congregations, I would be happy to give you more information about this case if you think it will help other people. I have now become an avid reader and researcher. 3 Principles I now live by 1. Keep an Open Mind. 2. Question Everything. 3. Do everything out of Love.
 

Ms_ladyblue

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Same for my husband and I. How can I tell other people to join...or even conduct a serious bible study when I can barely stand it as it is? It tore my conscience up for a long time. For a while we started just directing people to try reading the Bible, and stopped recommending the website but then we decided to stop altogether. Being in service and listening to people go on and on about how scary convid is, how many tests they've taken and how excited they were for their next booster shot made me never want to return.
Oh goodness! I don’t think I could’ve handled being in service with them, hearing all that talk. I know I wouldn’t be able to keep my yap shut! Right after the beginning of the scamdemic and zoom service started I couldn’t hold my tongue when they would talk about the masks. One sister said that people were being idiots for not wearing masks. I told her that these people could very well be the ones we’re writing these letters to.
I was always questioning the masks in addition to everything else we were ordered to do.
I was even criticized for questioning the FDA. 🙄
 

Citrine

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It is a long, long time I have wished for someone to reflect my feelings as I experienced them, someone with a fellow insight. It is therapy to read it: God knows how cathartic it must have been to write it. The tentacles of watchtower have haunted my family for decades and I will never be free of it, and neither will my children. Yours is a brilliant discourse on the mental agony that watchtower has inflicted on so many. It needs to be enshrined in a testament and dispatched post haste to the GB.
I miss our conversations. I have much to say but an empty audience.
 

NinevehByWayOfTarshish

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I just read your post for the first time. I only get to lurk from time to time. Almost never time to post. But I wanted to say your analysis is spot on, and well written too.

Your final paragraph referencing the song playing at a the end of the memorial, quite apt, and concludes the point well. I enjoyed reading it. Thank you.

I have also seen this obsession with Disney. It's weirdly present in sisters. All my siblings and I were raised the same, we watched all the Disney, but only my sister is still a Disney nut. Us guys are stuck on Star wars and sci Fi, and of course video games, and sports.

So the guys have their obsessions too, but somehow it doesn't get as obsessed. I think that's cuz in the Org. So much pressure is put on us guys, there's so much we're constantly doing, even when not a servant. It sort of forces some maturity. And growth, If only some.

My heart honestly breaks for the sisters, they seem to hang on the longest, and live these sad unfulfilled miserable lives. Stuffed with disappointment and guilt. Most never marry, and never have much, physically or experientially. I shudder to think of how many charming and pretty young ladies rot on the vine, never even kissed.

And it's not their fault remotely, their simply are no men. Like none. Almost all the young men leave. If they have any ambition at all they don't waste their time on the WT treadmill. And if they apply themselves at all, and achieve a modicum of success women, worldly women are attracted to them, and off they go. And why not, poor witness girls can't stand a chance, they hardly have a chance to talk to a guy before he's gone.

I think this helps explain the high use of depression meds, something I've also taken note of.


Anywhoo, I ramble...
 
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