Fire from heaven

Maybelle

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Yesterdays watchtower study on the book of revelation. Fire from heaven fulfilled in world war 2. As Robert says they ain’t seen nothing yet!!
 

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Watchman

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What is amazing is that the Watchtower seems to be right. And the next span of verses says it breathed life into the image of the beast, which seems to lend credibility to the WT's teaching that the UN is the image, which was established immediately after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Of course, it is all distorted, like looking at yourself in a concave mirror. However, it is the fulfillment of prophecy. Paul foretold there would be "an
operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and wonders and every unrighteous deception."
The operation of Satan is directed against Christians and is intended to dupe them into believing that everything has been fulfilled, particularly that the Kingdom has already come.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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What is amazing is that the Watchtower seems to be right. And the next span of verses says it breathed life into the image of the beast, which seems to lend credibility to the WT's teaching that the UN is the image, which was established immediately after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Of course, it is all distorted, like looking at yourself in a concave mirror. However, it is the fulfillment of prophecy. Paul foretold there would be "an
operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and wonders and every unrighteous deception."
The operation of Satan is directed against Christians and is intended to dupe them into believing that everything has been fulfilled, particularly that the Kingdom has already come.
Statistically, the bombing of Germany, Dresden et alia killed more and also created firestorms, as I think if I recall correctly, that you have already mentioned In analysis before. Also, the plan was to carry on and flatten Russia as well, but that never materialised. Churchill was rather keen on the idea. I don’t know why the watchtower are so bent on trying to convert or re-write history into prophesy by illustrating such things as atomic bombs as fire from heaven. They would do better to illustrate it with the destruction of Sodom. Now that really was fire from heaven, and something tells me to expect more on that scale as you most likely are correct in stating yourself in a world wide conflict. The watchtower have already touted that the beast consisted of the league and United Nations revival. Regardless, politics is not my strong-point. Doubtless we will find out the truth of the matter soon - though it would not surprise me if the watchtower interprets the sunny days we are having in Europe of late to be the “intensely hot elements” that the bible speaks of.
 

w_stone

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So what exactly is the powerful work that is a lying sigh.If not Rev 13:13 He makes Fire to come down from heaven in the sight of all.If that is describing a nuclear Bomb We may be being mislead.The art of War states when you are weak make yourself to be appear to be strong.Is nuclear Fission possible? We're the two explosions staged? A deception?
 

Watchman

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So what exactly is the powerful work that is a lying sigh.If not Rev 13:13 He makes Fire to come down from heaven in the sight of all.If that is describing a nuclear Bomb We may be being mislead.The art of War states when you are weak make yourself to be appear to be strong.Is nuclear Fission possible? We're the two explosions staged? A deception?
LOL. No. There actually were two atomic bombs that exploded over Japan in August 1945. They even gave the bombs names: Fat Man and Little Boy. My point is, that was not the fulfillment of Revelation.
 

w_stone

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image this universe is a gaint ife boat if you destroy the fiber of the life boat by punching hole in it.( by slipping the atoms ) What happens to the life boat.it sanking.So by them ie the government saying that they could slip the atom that would be a deception or lie.Because if they could destroy the fabric of the universe there would be no universe left..
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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image this universe is a gaint ife boat if you destroy the fiber of the life boat by punching hole in it.( by slipping the atoms ) What happens to the life boat.it sanking.So by them ie the government saying that they could slip the atom that would be a deception or lie.Because if they could destroy the fabric of the universe there would be no universe left..
Atoms are being spilt all the time. It’s chain reactions we need to watch out for. At the first test in America, setting fire to the entire atmosphere was actually a concern for the physicists. It shows just how far people would go to win a war…even the chance of self destruction. Still, tomorrow is another day.
 

w_stone

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If they did slip the atom what do they become .if you destroy the atom they are puncturing what matter is made of.The formulation to do that is E=Mc squarted That the speed of light time it self.How did they do that?.Do we believe believe false science exists .Do we believe Magic Exists All sounds fishy
 

Nomex

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kirmmy

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LOL. No. There actually were two atomic bombs that exploded over Japan in August 1945. They even gave the bombs names: Fat Man and Little Boy. My point is, that was not the fulfillment of Revelation.
Do you know that there are actually people today that deny the existence of nukes?! Flat earth is just the tip of the iceberg apparently.

Atoms are being spilt all the time. It’s chain reactions we need to watch out for. At the first test in America, setting fire to the entire atmosphere was actually a concern for the physicists. It shows just how far people would go to win a war…even the chance of self destruction. Still, tomorrow is another day.
Pretty much. Every chemical reaction follows Einstein's equation; E=MC squared AFAIK. Binding mass is being changed to energy all around us (Exothermic). Sometime energy is being converted to binding mass. (Endothermic). Nukes release tremendous amounts of binding energy when the atoms are split is all.

w_Stone I'd suggest a visit to Wikipedia and have a look at what's discussed regarding Einstein's work and the equation he's famous for.


Be aware of the Dunning-kruger effect:


We all suffer from that in one way or another.
 

Watchman

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A memory just surfaced. Back nearly 50 years ago when I first came into contact with JWs I had been reading Revelation and I had also read the WT's commentaries on Revelation, and I asked the brothers if the fire from heaven was the detonation of the two bombs over Japan and they said no, because that is not what the Society said back then. Now, the WT is saying what I thought back before I was even a baptized JW. Of course, I was wrong then, just as they are now. The light just keeps getting dimmer and dimmer. :cool:
 

Soul Sage

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The Watchtower study this Sunday was refreshing, though lots of people are still blind. I remember someone making a comment about the storming of the capital on Jan 6th as part of riots even though that was fake news as the doors were opened for them to walk into the capital by the capital police and with it being a setup. People need to understand to stop listening to corporate news media. That's why we are in such a big mess. A bunch of fools.
 

BillyRay

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What struck me in Sundays Watchtower study…. Revelation 18:4 was quoted, saying “Get out of her my people”. But the comments expressed the thought that it was a call to get out of Babylon The Great - the world empire of false religion.

So, I had the thought about countering with: Why would “God’s people” need to “get out of her” (Babylon the Great) if they were already “God’s people?” Wouldn’t they already have had to “get out of her “ in order to have become “His people”? So, other than Babylon The Great, what could Jehovah be telling “His people” to “get out of”?

But I thought better of it.
 

Soul Sage

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What struck me in Sundays Watchtower study…. Revelation 18:4 was quoted, saying “Get out of her my people”. But the comments expressed the thought that it was a call to get out of Babylon The Great - the world empire of false religion.

So, I had the thought about countering with: Why would “God’s people” need to “get out of her” (Babylon the Great) if they were already “God’s people?” Wouldn’t they already have had to “get out of her “ in order to have become “His people”? So, other than Babylon The Great, what could Jehovah be telling “His people” to “get out of”?

But I thought better of it.

It's directed to many Christian religions. Those that promote Trinity doctrine and so on.
 

Arctic Cat

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The actual fulfillment might be something entirely different. Perhaps a laser or particle beam weapon.
i think you might be on to something there. HAARP is like a global planetary swiss knife. Release earthquake pressure points, volcano outbursts, scan deep into the earth for minerals or jam transmissions.. start fires in the powergrids blow transformators etc.. i think we have only scratched the surface of this yet.. it certainly is within realm of possibility.
not to mention the «mindcontrol» aspect. E.G. jesse ventura testing the frequency tech on himself in the episode of conspiracy theory. If i remember correctly the Us Army have developed this frequency wep tech in the 90s already for dispersing revolting masses as when you get hit with it the pain will shut you down almost immediately.
 

Ms_ladyblue

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What struck me in Sundays Watchtower study…. Revelation 18:4 was quoted, saying “Get out of her my people”. But the comments expressed the thought that it was a call to get out of Babylon The Great - the world empire of false religion.

So, I had the thought about countering with: Why would “God’s people” need to “get out of her” (Babylon the Great) if they were already “God’s people?” Wouldn’t they already have had to “get out of her “ in order to have become “His people”? So, other than Babylon The Great, what could Jehovah be telling “His people” to “get out of”?

But I thought better of it.
@BillyRay
I asked that same question. It just might be that although we’re “his people“ many of us may still have traits of false worship just like the Jews back then before Jerusalem was destroyed. See Isaiah 48:20; 52:11; Jeremiah 52:8.

I believe it may have a lot to do with what‘s going on around us along with how the organization has followed suit and in turn those who are following them, including the restrictions they’ve gone along with. ( Think about all the rituals they been following, including taking the vaccine) Then there may be some things we’re not aware of.

That‘s just my take on it, for what it’s worth.
 
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Arctic Cat

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What is amazing is that the Watchtower seems to be right. And the next span of verses says it breathed life into the image of the beast, which seems to lend credibility to the WT's teaching that the UN is the image, which was established immediately after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Of course, it is all distorted, like looking at yourself in a concave mirror. However, it is the fulfillment of prophecy. Paul foretold there would be "an
operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and wonders and every unrighteous deception."
The operation of Satan is directed against Christians and is intended to dupe them into believing that everything has been fulfilled, particularly that the Kingdom has already come.
my father told me yesterday that the prophecy of the Kitn according to new light means that the king in the north will be taken out and that the king in the south will triumph… sso im a bit bewildered what they really think as i didnt understand any part of his explaining of it.. how do you get that out of the final verses of this conflict? He also said that Kitn would be destructed by the king in the south not by christ? like my uncle used to say, now i finally dont understand anything😂🤪.. but could this explain why they are sheltering under the mighty cedar? Do they actually believe the Kits will protect them untill the very end? I think WT is making so little sense atm that ppl dont even understand what they are sayin
 
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