Fire from heaven

יהוה_saves

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images of incredible destruction caused by these fires, and literally across the street were green tress untouched. Images of molten car wheels with untouched green grass 40 or 50 feet away.
i know, right?

and perfectly round circles of different sizes burnt into the brush. How could that happen?

Those fires made their way up the west coast of Northern California, Oregon and Washington and just stopped at the Canadian border.

Directed Energy Weapons? The Hutchison Effect?
 

יהוה_saves

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my father told me yesterday that the prophecy of the Kitn according to new light means that the king in the north will be taken out and that the king in the south will triumph… sso im a bit bewildered what they really think as i didnt understand any part of his explaining of it.. how do you get that out of the final verses of this conflict? He also said that Kitn would be destructed by the king in the south not by christ? like my uncle used to say, now i finally dont understand anything😂🤪.. but could this explain why they are sheltering under the mighty cedar? Do they actually believe the Kits will protect them untill the very end? I think WT is making so little sense atm that ppl dont even understand what they are sayin
doesn’t he read the scriptures?
 

w_stone

Active member
If they did slip the atom what do they become .if you destroy the atom they are puncturing what matter is made of.The formulation to do that is E=Mc squarted That the speed of light time it self.How did they do that?.Do we believe believe false science exists .Do we believe Magic Exists All sounds fishy
And Three unclean expressions that looked like frogs come from the Dragon Two Horned Wild Beast and Flase Prophet.What do the frogs represent:They are Flase sighs or expression or a deception .Why Frogs because the Magic practicing Priest in Moses day were able to duplicate the same miracle.But there's was Lie or a deception.So what than our the frogs.what do they related to?There are related to , War Famine and Plagues. All deceptions lies .One War Rev13:13 Fire becoming down from sky .Two False plagues ( or Covis 19)three Food shortages another lying sign.Frogs Frogs Frogs.
 

Sunshower

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And Three unclean expressions that looked like frogs come from the Dragon Two Horned Wild Beast and Flase Prophet.What do the frogs represent:They are Flase sighs or expression or a deception .Why Frogs because the Magic practicing Priest in Moses day were able to duplicate the same miracle.But there's was Lie or a deception.So what than our the frogs.what do they related to?There are related to , War Famine and Plagues. All deceptions lies .One War Rev13:13 Fire becoming down from sky .Two False plagues ( or Covis 19)three Food shortages another lying sign.Frogs Frogs Frogs.
I‘m sorry to burst your bubble but those coming food shortages are very real.
 

BagdadBill

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Yes
How so?Mankind forget how to grow food raise animals It's the governments saying we can't do it It's a lie..It a Frog A deception .
Yes and no. I see your point but there are other factors. I have grown food before. I tried to have a garden this year but it just died. It takes a lot more land than I have to feed me throughout a year. Then there are growing seasons. Then there is something that you won’t hear in the news. Grand Solar Minimum. Even with the drought and heat, we aren’t getting the normal sunlight.
Oh yeah, and there is a drought even in the south right now.
 
imagine que este universo es un bote salvavidas si destruye la fibra del bote salvavidas haciendo un agujero en él (deslizando los átomos) ¿Qué le sucede al bote salvavidas? Se hunde. Entonces, es decir, el gobierno dice que podrían deslizarse el átomo eso sería un engaño o una mentira. Porque si pudieran destruir el tejido del universo no quedaría universo..
The context that Revelation presents of "He brings down fire from heaven" is a context of social deception. Following that portion of text, the 2-horned beast is said to "perform signs to deceive" and the next demand is that the masses make an image of it to worship the other beast. So the context is one of deception, of convincing the deceived masses to accept the 8th king, in fact the fire from heaven makes him descend "In the sight of humanity". It is not a warlike context as the Wachtower would have us believe or some other violent action discussed here, it is an operation of deception, visual impact and conviction for the masses that are present at the time.
 

kirmmy

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I tried to have a garden this year but it just died.
You too, eh. I've never had a worse garden than this year. I'd send a pic but I'm ashamed.

The context that Revelation presents of "He brings down fire from heaven" is a context of social deception. Following that portion of text, the 2-horned beast is said to "perform signs to deceive" and the next demand is that the masses make an image of it to worship the other beast. So the context is one of deception, of convincing the deceived masses to accept the 8th king, in fact the fire from heaven makes him descend "In the sight of humanity". It is not a warlike context as the Wachtower would have us believe or some other violent action discussed here, it is an operation of deception, visual impact and conviction for the masses that are present at the time.
They'll (London) crash the system and that will bring war, starvation and disease, just like Christ prophesied (The Great Tribulation). This will all be planned as we can see now, if you look behind the curtain using Bible Prophecy. Then the 8th king will raise up from the ashes and offer a thoroughly devastated mankind a way out. With it will come strict financial controls and uncompromising tyranny. Behind the scenes the Satan worshiping "elites" will live like kings. People will be so brainwashed and desperate they'll go along with their UBI and false hopes for freedom. The 2 witnesses will then start their 3.5 year ministry and no one will be able to touch them. People will see their power and truth and will be given a choice on who's side they want to live. The eight king will outlaw the truth from the witnesses and make everyone take a mark (sign a document?) that will condemn them in God's eyes. Then the 8th king will be allowed to destroy the two witnesses and come after the Great Crowd and the vast mixed company that will be leaving "Egypt" with them. God will dump a Red Sea of pain on their heads and that's it for this clown world. The new world awaits!

The cry of peace and security might come when the anointed remnant are destroyed or before the GT, I'm not sure.

Well anyway, that's what I see from what's happening around us and some Biblical guidance from our host. Please feel free to add input or corrections.
 

Sunshower

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Yes
How so?Mankind forget how to grow food raise animals It's the governments saying we can't do it It's a lie..It a Frog A deception .
No, there just simply won’t be any food. Farmers are paid by government to destroy their crops, also because of water shortages farmer just let their crops die to claim insurance.

Also, take a look at this thread: https://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/in...ysteriously-caught-fire-famine-incoming.1171/

And perhaps you didn’t notice but governments aren’t particularly keen on farmers so they want them gone. That’s why farmers are protesting in Holland, Germany, Italy, Poland, Canada and loads of other places. Holland is the second largest exporter of food, if the farmers lose, don’t you think the rest of the world will notice?

Maybe you can still own land now, but “you’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy” is not some advertising slogan. These people, who control governments, want to take all private property away from people. If you don’t have any land, you can’t grow enough food to sustain yourself. If they control the water supply, you can’t water your crops unless you live near water.
 

Sunshower

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Then there is something that you won’t hear in the news. Grand Solar Minimum. Even with the drought and heat, we aren’t getting the normal sunlight.
And then there’s this. It’s going to get colder from now on. The earth is in a natural cycle, as is the sun. And like @BagdadBill said, we’re at the beginning of the Grand Solar Minimum.

So no sun, no water, no land. Good luck planting food 👍
 

Jah-son

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Hi folks, I haven't posted for a while since I've been taking advantage of my ability to travel again over the summer during this brief respite between tyranical pandemics. But I have been still attending meetings, convention and peering into the posts here on e-watchman from time to time. I'm just taking a break to digest it all and find a point of relative balance.
After reading this thread and some others like it, along with 30 years of WT prophecy interpretation, I have to admit I'm just kinda burnt out on all of the fear mongering and prophecy guesswork. I don't mean to disparage anyone here. Kudos to you for your zeal in trying to understand scripture. It's commendable, really. It shows a desire to know the "deep things of God" that even Angels want to know 1Pet 1:12. And I realize that prophecy has its place and purpose. I'm still trying to figure out just what that is, for the most part. That being the case though, can we really hope to come to an accurate understanding of these things if angels aren't even privy to such information (including Jesus) ? Look at this thread...10 different people, 10 different interpretations of 1 prophecy. Hasn't this so called, "understanding" of prophecy been the basis of the WTBTS's manipulation of innocent people for over a century now? The GT and Armageddon is always right around the corner, isn't it? I've been hearing it since I first came into contact with the witnesses...every turn in world events is "the beginning of the GT" ooooh be afraid...be very afraid (1914 and 1974) Is that why we serve God? Not me...not anymore. I'm done with it. I want my peace back and I'm taking it back. I'm creating a different future for myself. If God's grand purpose is the destruction of everything around me, so be it. It's his creation, he can do as he sees fit. Does he want me destroyed? I hope not. Does he want my little innocent autistic "enemy of God" nephews destroyed? I hope not. Does he want my gun toting, beautiful, loving hearted America loving niece destroyed? I can't think of a reason why. Does he want my single father epileptic brother who loves his children and is struggling to care for them the best that he can under heavy medication destroyed? I don't know why he would. It makes me sad to think about that. But bring on the nukes, right? Fire from heaven for all! Hmmmm...
I'm not going to be manipulated or take part in the manipulation game anymore.
Do I believe the Bible's promise of a future where natural balance is restored to the earth and mankind...heck yes! I'm starting now! I'm balancing myself and the sphere of influence around me. I'm not going to dwell on fear and destruction anymore.
Of course there are real events happening around me that affect myself and loved ones that have to be addressed and dealt with but most of these things are ultimately out of our control and I just think we waste a lot of energy on "what ifs" and "could bes" and it seems that men with wicked desires like to keep us in mental slavery with such concepts. For some reason we seem to be easily duped into that state. I look back on my life and realize how much time and energy I've wasted on these things that never came to pass and it's really disappointing. I'm enjoying my time at this moment sipping my morning coffee and listening to the morning birds sing, making plans to improve and enjoy my life. There are no bombs dropping around me, I traveled for 2 weeks in 2 different states and countries and saw no food shortages. Gas prices were high, yes.. they've been there before. Men will continue to manipulate and struggle for control power as they always have. Remember when your children weren't going to grow up in this system? Remember when you were going to die from a nuclear holocaust as a child? Remember when you were going to die from rising ocean floods and asteroids and oil shortages and environmental disasters and Fukushima radiation and Y2K and hale Bop comet and the sun burning out and...keep it going folks...the sky is falling...we're all gonna a die! That's my thought process at this moment. Feel free to change my mind. Have a nice day.
 

Sunshower

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Hi @Jah-son, glad to hear you’re okay. I missed having you around.

I agree with most of your post, it’s no use thinking the bomb might drop any moment now cause living in fear is not living. An elder (and I guess WT in general) seem to think prophecies are best understood after they’ve occurred. And to some extent I agree that we can speculate a lot but will fully understand when it happens (not afterwards, that’s just nonsense). But to recognise prophecy being full filled, you need to know what prophecies are in the Bible. Jehovah didn’t put them in the Bible just for the heck of it, He gave them to us for a reason.

I don’t necessarily find it important to get the exact understanding of what for instance the fire from heaven will be in advance. We will see it when we see it. But, and this is a big one, I do like to prepare for the mark of the beast in advance. Knowing what it will be in hindsight is a bit too late cause that means you’re gonna die and not get a resurrection. So that that’s a biggie. We don’t know what it’s gonna be, but I’m sure if we at least stay awake and keep a bit of an eye on the current events, we might be able to recognise it. And by that we will prove our loyalty to Jehovah and prove that we didn’t spend our time in the org in vain.

I saw this bit in an article that Robert wrote as a reply to the GB update nr 10, which shocked me at the time I first read it:
It seems the Watchtower is grooming JW’s to accept the mark of the beast when the time comes. Although I have no proof, it seems fairly certain that the Watchtower has accepted money from the dark powers that have been pushing the pandemic and universal vaccination as part of the Great Reset, a euphemism for the intentional collapse of civilization and the implementation of global communism and mass depopulation. The Governing Body has used its influence to compel millions of trusting JWs to receive the experimental mRNA injections just as is being promoted by the United Nations WHO.

Like you, I try not to concentrate on living in fear of war, famine (I prep, even if it’s because prices are rising and what I buy now will only increase in price) and death. I hold on to Jehovah’s promise that He will not let us be tempted beyond what we can bear. For some that is more than others. I myself don’t find myself to be such a hero, so I don’t know what I can bear. But our Father knows.

We might speculate a lot on here but I see that as iron sharpening iron. Ignoring it won’t make it go away so it’s better to talk about it as adults although there are 182 members on here with 182 different opinions. And you know what they say about opinions 😂

What I’m trying to say with a lot of words is, don’t let it get to you. I hope you’ll pop in and say hi from time to time 😊
 

w_stone

Active member
How a deception works.It don't not meet it doesn't happen.ItsHow it happens by what means.Did frogs appear by the magic priest in Moses day .Yes.But how did they appear?Were they created by him.No.Likewise have the frogs that deceive in our day.War Famine.Diease.They happen but How do they occur?Bythe lie or through deception.Rev13 :13 Fire in the sight of all mankind.How did they produce nuclear Fission in side a bomb that weighted alonly 22 pounds.Diease was the Corv 19 produced by Bats.Famine just because Ukraine produce wheat and corn that means there going to be food shortage.No other country can grow those crops? There a deceptions Frogs.
 

LifeLearning

Well-known member
Hi folks, I haven't posted for a while since I've been taking advantage of my ability to travel again over the summer during this brief respite between tyranical pandemics. But I have been still attending meetings, convention and peering into the posts here on e-watchman from time to time. I'm just taking a break to digest it all and find a point of relative balance.
After reading this thread and some others like it, along with 30 years of WT prophecy interpretation, I have to admit I'm just kinda burnt out on all of the fear mongering and prophecy guesswork. I don't mean to disparage anyone here. Kudos to you for your zeal in trying to understand scripture. It's commendable, really. It shows a desire to know the "deep things of God" that even Angels want to know 1Pet 1:12. And I realize that prophecy has its place and purpose. I'm still trying to figure out just what that is, for the most part. That being the case though, can we really hope to come to an accurate understanding of these things if angels aren't even privy to such information (including Jesus) ? Look at this thread...10 different people, 10 different interpretations of 1 prophecy. Hasn't this so called, "understanding" of prophecy been the basis of the WTBTS's manipulation of innocent people for over a century now? The GT and Armageddon is always right around the corner, isn't it? I've been hearing it since I first came into contact with the witnesses...every turn in world events is "the beginning of the GT" ooooh be afraid...be very afraid (1914 and 1974) Is that why we serve God? Not me...not anymore. I'm done with it. I want my peace back and I'm taking it back. I'm creating a different future for myself. If God's grand purpose is the destruction of everything around me, so be it. It's his creation, he can do as he sees fit. Does he want me destroyed? I hope not. Does he want my little innocent autistic "enemy of God" nephews destroyed? I hope not. Does he want my gun toting, beautiful, loving hearted America loving niece destroyed? I can't think of a reason why. Does he want my single father epileptic brother who loves his children and is struggling to care for them the best that he can under heavy medication destroyed? I don't know why he would. It makes me sad to think about that. But bring on the nukes, right? Fire from heaven for all! Hmmmm...
I'm not going to be manipulated or take part in the manipulation game anymore.
Do I believe the Bible's promise of a future where natural balance is restored to the earth and mankind...heck yes! I'm starting now! I'm balancing myself and the sphere of influence around me. I'm not going to dwell on fear and destruction anymore.
Of course there are real events happening around me that affect myself and loved ones that have to be addressed and dealt with but most of these things are ultimately out of our control and I just think we waste a lot of energy on "what ifs" and "could bes" and it seems that men with wicked desires like to keep us in mental slavery with such concepts. For some reason we seem to be easily duped into that state. I look back on my life and realize how much time and energy I've wasted on these things that never came to pass and it's really disappointing. I'm enjoying my time at this moment sipping my morning coffee and listening to the morning birds sing, making plans to improve and enjoy my life. There are no bombs dropping around me, I traveled for 2 weeks in 2 different states and countries and saw no food shortages. Gas prices were high, yes.. they've been there before. Men will continue to manipulate and struggle for control power as they always have. Remember when your children weren't going to grow up in this system? Remember when you were going to die from a nuclear holocaust as a child? Remember when you were going to die from rising ocean floods and asteroids and oil shortages and environmental disasters and Fukushima radiation and Y2K and hale Bop comet and the sun burning out and...keep it going folks...the sky is falling...we're all gonna a die! That's my thought process at this moment. Feel free to change my mind. Have a nice day.
Hi @Jah-son
Thanks for sharing this. I have similar thoughts and feel the urge to write a lot about it right now, but I am not going to do so...

Suffice to say, I remain watchful and humble, looking for every opportunity to bring glory to God and steer away from what is bad. I desire to make the best use of my time, and endeavor to turn away from the old personality that is rooted in the world due to generations of darkness.

The signs are here, and I am thankful that Robert is a Watchman filled with truth and discernment, and blowing a horn.

“Yet even now,” declares Jehovah, “return to me with all your hearts, With fasting and weeping and wailing. Rip apart your hearts, and not your garments, And return to Jehovah your God, For he is compassionate and merciful, slow to anger and abundant in loyal love, And he will reconsider the calamity. Who knows whether he will turn back and reconsider... Joel 2:12-
 

Jah-son

Well-known member
Hi @Jah-son, glad to hear you’re okay. I missed having you around.

I agree with most of your post, it’s no use thinking the bomb might drop any moment now cause living in fear is not living. An elder (and I guess WT in general) seem to think prophecies are best understood after they’ve occurred. And to some extent I agree that we can speculate a lot but will fully understand when it happens (not afterwards, that’s just nonsense). But to recognise prophecy being full filled, you need to know what prophecies are in the Bible. Jehovah didn’t put them in the Bible just for the heck of it, He gave them to us for a reason.

I don’t necessarily find it important to get the exact understanding of what for instance the fire from heaven will be in advance. We will see it when we see it. But, and this is a big one, I do like to prepare for the mark of the beast in advance. Knowing what it will be in hindsight is a bit too late cause that means you’re gonna die and not get a resurrection. So that that’s a biggie. We don’t know what it’s gonna be, but I’m sure if we at least stay awake and keep a bit of an eye on the current events, we might be able to recognise it. And by that we will prove our loyalty to Jehovah and prove that we didn’t spend our time in the org in vain.

I saw this bit in an article that Robert wrote as a reply to the GB update nr 10, which shocked me at the time I first read it:
It seems the Watchtower is grooming JW’s to accept the mark of the beast when the time comes. Although I have no proof, it seems fairly certain that the Watchtower has accepted money from the dark powers that have been pushing the pandemic and universal vaccination as part of the Great Reset, a euphemism for the intentional collapse of civilization and the implementation of global communism and mass depopulation. The Governing Body has used its influence to compel millions of trusting JWs to receive the experimental mRNA injections just as is being promoted by the United Nations WHO.

Like you, I try not to concentrate on living in fear of war, famine (I prep, even if it’s because prices are rising and what I buy now will only increase in price) and death. I hold on to Jehovah’s promise that He will not let us be tempted beyond what we can bear. For some that is more than others. I myself don’t find myself to be such a hero, so I don’t know what I can bear. But our Father knows.

We might speculate a lot on here but I see that as iron sharpening iron. Ignoring it won’t make it go away so it’s better to talk about it as adults although there are 182 members on here with 182 different opinions. And you know what they say about opinions 😂

What I’m trying to say with a lot of words is, don’t let it get to you. I hope you’ll pop in and say hi from time to time 😊
Thanks for you reply. It makes sense. I definitely think that the GB have sold out and will likely lead many into a trap. Its good to know prophecy basics so one can recognize event and prepare for sure. Good points. I think knowing the basics and applying a heavy dose of common sense and discernment will get us to that promised place of balance and healing that the Bible promises. And I fell like my enemies of God family will make it there too, I hope. And the real enemies of God will create their own demise. They envision a future of destruction and fear. If that's the reality they want to create... let them live there.
And I do enjoy reading y'alls comments on most issues. Its how we come to a better understanding. 😊
 

Sunshower

Well-known member
Thanks for you reply. It makes sense. I definitely think that the GB have sold out and will likely lead many into a trap. Its good to know prophecy basics so one can recognize event and prepare for sure. Good points. I think knowing the basics and applying a heavy dose of common sense and discernment will get us to that promised place of balance and healing that the Bible promises. And I fell like my enemies of God family will make it there too, I hope. And the real enemies of God will create their own demise. They envision a future of destruction and fear. If that's the reality they want to create... let them live there.
And I do enjoy reading y'alls comments on most issues. Its how we come to a better understanding. 😊
The WT aren’t the ones who judge, Jesus will judge. So there is still loads of hope for your nephews, niece, brother and all else whom you love ❤️
 

יהוה_saves

Well-known member
I‘m sorry to burst your bubble but those coming food shortages are very real.
don’t waste your energy.

I can testify to the fact that grocery store stock not only in my area, but my mom’s too (400 miles north of here) is dwindling, with high prices and bare shelves. And we are still in the kinda sorta good times.
 

Carl

Well-known member
Hi folks, I haven't posted for a while since I've been taking advantage of my ability to travel again over the summer during this brief respite between tyranical pandemics. But I have been still attending meetings, convention and peering into the posts here on e-watchman from time to time. I'm just taking a break to digest it all and find a point of relative balance.
After reading this thread and some others like it, along with 30 years of WT prophecy interpretation, I have to admit I'm just kinda burnt out on all of the fear mongering and prophecy guesswork. I don't mean to disparage anyone here. Kudos to you for your zeal in trying to understand scripture. It's commendable, really. It shows a desire to know the "deep things of God" that even Angels want to know 1Pet 1:12. And I realize that prophecy has its place and purpose. I'm still trying to figure out just what that is, for the most part. That being the case though, can we really hope to come to an accurate understanding of these things if angels aren't even privy to such information (including Jesus) ? Look at this thread...10 different people, 10 different interpretations of 1 prophecy. Hasn't this so called, "understanding" of prophecy been the basis of the WTBTS's manipulation of innocent people for over a century now? The GT and Armageddon is always right around the corner, isn't it? I've been hearing it since I first came into contact with the witnesses...every turn in world events is "the beginning of the GT" ooooh be afraid...be very afraid (1914 and 1974) Is that why we serve God? Not me...not anymore. I'm done with it. I want my peace back and I'm taking it back. I'm creating a different future for myself. If God's grand purpose is the destruction of everything around me, so be it. It's his creation, he can do as he sees fit. Does he want me destroyed? I hope not. Does he want my little innocent autistic "enemy of God" nephews destroyed? I hope not. Does he want my gun toting, beautiful, loving hearted America loving niece destroyed? I can't think of a reason why. Does he want my single father epileptic brother who loves his children and is struggling to care for them the best that he can under heavy medication destroyed? I don't know why he would. It makes me sad to think about that. But bring on the nukes, right? Fire from heaven for all! Hmmmm...
I'm not going to be manipulated or take part in the manipulation game anymore.
Do I believe the Bible's promise of a future where natural balance is restored to the earth and mankind...heck yes! I'm starting now! I'm balancing myself and the sphere of influence around me. I'm not going to dwell on fear and destruction anymore.
Of course there are real events happening around me that affect myself and loved ones that have to be addressed and dealt with but most of these things are ultimately out of our control and I just think we waste a lot of energy on "what ifs" and "could bes" and it seems that men with wicked desires like to keep us in mental slavery with such concepts. For some reason we seem to be easily duped into that state. I look back on my life and realize how much time and energy I've wasted on these things that never came to pass and it's really disappointing. I'm enjoying my time at this moment sipping my morning coffee and listening to the morning birds sing, making plans to improve and enjoy my life. There are no bombs dropping around me, I traveled for 2 weeks in 2 different states and countries and saw no food shortages. Gas prices were high, yes.. they've been there before. Men will continue to manipulate and struggle for control power as they always have. Remember when your children weren't going to grow up in this system? Remember when you were going to die from a nuclear holocaust as a child? Remember when you were going to die from rising ocean floods and asteroids and oil shortages and environmental disasters and Fukushima radiation and Y2K and hale Bop comet and the sun burning out and...keep it going folks...the sky is falling...we're all gonna a die! That's my thought process at this moment. Feel free to change my mind. Have a nice day.
Please don’t take my response the wrong way, because I’m not trying to bring negativity to your life… but remember 2 Peter 3:4 “and saying: “Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep in death, all things are continuing exactly as they were from creation’s beginning.”

Satan wants us to lose focus and drop our guard. On the other hand, he also wants us to live in fear so the GT over takes us and we aren’t prepared. So my advice is to balance enjoying the day with preparing spiritually for the GT. I feel the same as you concerning my family… but I know Jehovah won’t forget the innocent ones.
 

MickHewitt

Well-known member
Hi folks, I haven't posted for a while since I've been taking advantage of my ability to travel again over the summer during this brief respite between tyranical pandemics. But I have been still attending meetings, convention and peering into the posts here on e-watchman from time to time. I'm just taking a break to digest it all and find a point of relative balance.
After reading this thread and some others like it, along with 30 years of WT prophecy interpretation, I have to admit I'm just kinda burnt out on all of the fear mongering and prophecy guesswork. I don't mean to disparage anyone here. Kudos to you for your zeal in trying to understand scripture. It's commendable, really. It shows a desire to know the "deep things of God" that even Angels want to know 1Pet 1:12. And I realize that prophecy has its place and purpose. I'm still trying to figure out just what that is, for the most part. That being the case though, can we really hope to come to an accurate understanding of these things if angels aren't even privy to such information (including Jesus) ? Look at this thread...10 different people, 10 different interpretations of 1 prophecy. Hasn't this so called, "understanding" of prophecy been the basis of the WTBTS's manipulation of innocent people for over a century now? The GT and Armageddon is always right around the corner, isn't it? I've been hearing it since I first came into contact with the witnesses...every turn in world events is "the beginning of the GT" ooooh be afraid...be very afraid (1914 and 1974) Is that why we serve God? Not me...not anymore. I'm done with it. I want my peace back and I'm taking it back. I'm creating a different future for myself. If God's grand purpose is the destruction of everything around me, so be it. It's his creation, he can do as he sees fit. Does he want me destroyed? I hope not. Does he want my little innocent autistic "enemy of God" nephews destroyed? I hope not. Does he want my gun toting, beautiful, loving hearted America loving niece destroyed? I can't think of a reason why. Does he want my single father epileptic brother who loves his children and is struggling to care for them the best that he can under heavy medication destroyed? I don't know why he would. It makes me sad to think about that. But bring on the nukes, right? Fire from heaven for all! Hmmmm...
I'm not going to be manipulated or take part in the manipulation game anymore.
Do I believe the Bible's promise of a future where natural balance is restored to the earth and mankind...heck yes! I'm starting now! I'm balancing myself and the sphere of influence around me. I'm not going to dwell on fear and destruction anymore.
Of course there are real events happening around me that affect myself and loved ones that have to be addressed and dealt with but most of these things are ultimately out of our control and I just think we waste a lot of energy on "what ifs" and "could bes" and it seems that men with wicked desires like to keep us in mental slavery with such concepts. For some reason we seem to be easily duped into that state. I look back on my life and realize how much time and energy I've wasted on these things that never came to pass and it's really disappointing. I'm enjoying my time at this moment sipping my morning coffee and listening to the morning birds sing, making plans to improve and enjoy my life. There are no bombs dropping around me, I traveled for 2 weeks in 2 different states and countries and saw no food shortages. Gas prices were high, yes.. they've been there before. Men will continue to manipulate and struggle for control power as they always have. Remember when your children weren't going to grow up in this system? Remember when you were going to die from a nuclear holocaust as a child? Remember when you were going to die from rising ocean floods and asteroids and oil shortages and environmental disasters and Fukushima radiation and Y2K and hale Bop comet and the sun burning out and...keep it going folks...the sky is falling...we're all gonna a die! That's my thought process at this moment. Feel free to change my mind. Have a nice day.
In the words of dear brother Biden "We feel your pain"! P.s only with sincerity
 
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