Has the Watchtower been infiltrated by Freemasons?

StopTheInsanity

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It’s weird that I am just now realizing that they call the regional Job’s daughter‘s organizations, BETHELS!
That IS creepy. Also, there was an secret NWO organization years ago that Henry Kissinger was a member of that's now defunct as far as I can tell (you never know with these secret societies) that was called Pilgrims. That was a term that CT Russell used if I am not mistaken.
 

SusanB

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All the stuff about FreeMason’s seems crazy because it is crazy. The people doing it are crazy so its tough for normal people to understand. They count on that. That’s why they do it right in our face. Its so easy to accuse others of conspiracy but they are doing it.
 

dgibson969

Active member
Very interesting. There certainly appears to be a common theme. Masons do get their name because they aspire to be "builders" like literal brick masons. Only they intend to build a better world. We'll soon see how that works out. ;)
The study of colors is interesting. Blue us a healing color. It is soothing and helps healing. Hospitals use it a lot. Pink is healing too, and very warming. Red is the opposite, denoting power and authority.
 

StopTheInsanity

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All the stuff about FreeMason’s seems crazy because it is crazy. The people doing it are crazy so its tough for normal people to understand. They count on that. That’s why they do it right in our face. Its so easy to accuse others of conspiracy but they are doing it.
The ADL was created specifically to silence the critics who were noticing that all the bankers causing mischief were are Zionist Jews....
 

SusanB

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The ADL was created specifically to silence the critics who were noticing that all the bankers causing mischief were are Zionist Jews....
If you remember Susan Powter’s “Stop The Insanity” then you probably remember the comedian, Carol Burnett? On her show, every night she would end it by tugging on her earlobe and that was a signal to her children to say “I love you”. No one but her children could understand until she publicly explained it. Probably a similar principle with the secret hand signs.

 

StopTheInsanity

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If you remember Susan Powter’s “Stop The Insanity” then you probably remember the comedian, Carol Burnett? On her show, every night she would end it by tugging on her earlobe and that was a signal to her children to say “I love you”. No one but her children could understand until she publicly explained it. Probably a similar principle with the secret hand signs.

Carol Burnett was hilarious. I loved the episode where she took the curtain with rod still attached to it and wore it like a dress in her "Gone with the Wind" episode. The one with Harvey Corman where he got stabbed in the forehead with Novocaine was hilarious too.
 
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mellow-077

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Thank you for taking the conversation in a more specific direction. I am wondering if you have seen the images in the magazines and if it brought concern to you. Even when I was fully indoctrinated in the organization I couldn’t explain the imagery. Here is an article on it.

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What of it, Susan?

I get what you are saying; trust me, I do. However, how Robert and others go about these things, is not right.

Don't get me wrong, it is okay to expose the truth, and bring the truth to light. (I support that)

However, certain individuals tend to take such things to the extreme. It doesn't need to continously be spoken of; especially not in a negative sense.
 

Nomex

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"does not constitute their incorporation into the United Nations system, nor does it entitle associated organizations or their staff to any kind of privileges, immunities or special status."
I love how you only quote the part which suites your own brand of half truths, and leave out this lovely nugget!!!!


...The letter explained that "y accepting association with DPI, the organization agreed to meet criteria for association, including support and respect of the principles of the Charter of the United Nations and commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes with its constituents and to a broader audience about UN activities."

"the organization agreed to meet criteria for association, including support"...and commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes with its constituents and to a broader audience about UN activities."

"The principal purpose of association of non-governmental organizations with the United Nations Department of Public Information is the redissemination of information in order to increase public understanding of the principles, activities and achievements of the United Nations and its Agencies."


Here I'll translate this since your having trouble understanding basic facts. In order to be an NGO of the UN, WT had to print articles painting the UN in a positive light, which they did and has been well documented! If the UN was already the 8th King, which according to WT they are, that is is giving support to Satan's government! There is no honest way to excuse this relationship!
 
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Liv4ever

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"the organization agreed to meet criteria for association, including support"...and commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes with its constituents and to a broader audience about UN activities."
Okay let's unpack this statement. First of all this is not the wt saying this. Secondly, the wt never said that. Third while there may have been some rogue elements that cut a deal somewhere, we have no proof and moreover this was never in the wt. once again you fail to meet the burden of proof. Your claim that the wt is in the UN or was in the UN is a childish distortion and half truth. Deal with it...!
 

Nomex

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half truth.
You're the one engaged in half truths. First of all I never said WT was in the UN, that's absurd. They were an NGO partner of the UN! That is a fact. How to you qualify as an NGO partnership? I'm glad you asked. Here's a nice article on the subject.

https://www.linkedin.com/advice/1/how-can-ngos-navigate-un-accreditation

"...(NGO) that wants to collaborate with the United Nations (UN) on global issues, you may need to apply for accreditation. Accreditation is a formal recognition of your NGO's status, expertise, and legitimacy by the UN." " UN accreditation is a process that grants NGOs the right to participate in various UN bodies and activities. It is based on the principle of consultation and cooperation between the UN and civil society." ..."It is a voluntary and selective process that requires NGOs to meet certain standards and expectations."

BTW, I'm not interested in what know liars at WT say or don't say in regards to their claims about their UN partnership. And it speaks volumes to their guilt, that the minute they were found out, they exited their NGO UN partnership! You absurdly push the WT narrative that this partnership was completely innocent. They are no different than the whore sitting a top of the beast in Revelation, except they are hypocrites to boot.
 

Cathii

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Okay let's unpack this statement. First of all this is not the wt saying this. Secondly, the wt never said that. Third while there may have been some rogue elements that cut a deal somewhere, we have no proof and moreover this was never in the wt. once again you fail to meet the burden of proof. Your claim that the wt is in the UN or was in the UN is a childish distortion and half truth. Deal with it...!
AWake satisfied the requirements for the WT to maintain their NGO status. It was the Awake magazine that the WT used to publish articles about the UN in the 60's and 70's. I know because I read them and was half shocked that the WT gave so much honor to the UN in their accomplishments around the world..this was a time when the Vietnaum war in full swing and our neutrality was discussed alot especially since Brothers went to prison. Read those Awakes from the time and you will see. Please don't call me a liar, I lived it...
 
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StopTheInsanity

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It was the Awake magazine that the WT used to publish articles about the UN in the 60's and 70's. I know because I read them and was half shocked that the WT gave so much honor to the UN in their accomplishments around the world..this was a time when the Vietnaum war in full swing and our neutrality was discussed alot especially since Brothers went to prison. Read those Awakes from the time and you will see. Please don't call me a liar, I lived it...
Hey Cathii,

From what I understand, the NGO partnership which required the publishing of 6 articles a year began in 1992 and lasted until they were caught and the article was posted in The Guardian in London in 2001. But, I do find in interesting that there were even articles BEFORE then, and I highly suspect that they still are affiliated in some covert untraceable way now, since they heavily promoted the WHO during COVID and promoted and received the vaxx even in countries where it supposedly was hard to get. I suspect that the organization was infiltrated heavily after WW2 so I am not surprised that they've promoted the UN for so long. It's amazing that they outed the UN in the Revelation--It's Grand Climax at Hand! book in 1988 but just three years later applied to be an NGO. They sure have gotten quiet about the UN being the Image that will be destroyed at Armageddon, eh?
 

SusanB

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What of it, Susan?

I get what you are saying; trust me, I do. However, how Robert and others go about these things, is not right.

Don't get me wrong, it is okay to expose the truth, and bring the truth to light. (I support that)

However, certain individuals tend to take such things to the extreme. It doesn't need to continously be spoken of; especially not in a negative sense.
First of all, I’m not “continuously talking about it”. Second regarding “what of it?” A true disciple of Jesus wouldn’t use material in the preaching work with demonic images. Jehovah requires clean, pure worship. Very basic issues. That’s what of it.
 

SusanB

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What of it, Susan?

I get what you are saying; trust me, I do. However, how Robert and others go about these things, is not right.

Don't get me wrong, it is okay to expose the truth, and bring the truth to light. (I support that)

However, certain individuals tend to take such things to the extreme. It doesn't need to continously be spoken of; especially not in a negative sense.
I will also say something all witnesses know is true, NOTHING comes out of Bethel that isn’t carefully reviewed and scripted. How did demonic images get published and why weren’t they recalled if it was a mistake? I think we all know the answer and this forum is to express ourselves to one another on all manner of spiritual and religious issues. Why do you feel like a self appointed policeman for this forum? In case you haven’t figured it out, I’ll discuss whatever I feel is appropriate. I don’t even know you.
 
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