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BillyRay

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Based on my experience of showing symptoms after 30 minutes of exposure to a COVID positive friend, I believe there's something other than a viral infection going on here. I didn't have an infection, they don't happen that fast. According to germ theory, a virus causes illness by entering a cell, replicating until the cell bursts... rinse & repeat. No virus works within 30 minutes, there's an incubation period, which tells me my illness was an allergic reaction to something. Since then I've wondered if initially COVID was a chemical bioweapon, not a virus. It could have been delivered in the 2019-2020 flu vaccine? Or it could have been delivered by airplanes via the well documented high altitude aerosol delivery systems. We'll most likely never know, so I haven't spent much time researching it. I've actually stopped looking into a lot of the conspiracy theories I used to. I used to spend my mornings listening to different Bitchute channels, but now I listen to the Bible. I also watched a lot of alternative news videos, but now I watch dash cam videos of idiots driving, animal & poker videos and I love the cop cam vids.
I don't disagree with your thinking that the Covid virus could have been a bio weapon. In fact - I'm pretty convinced that it was. You know.... The Wuhan Institute of Virology, and all. The enhanced ability of the spike protein to adhere to cells is something that doesn't appear to have naturally mutated on its own. I've read more than one study saying that it appears to have been "enhanced".

As for getting sick 30 minutes after exposure to your Covid positive friend.... You're right... no virus works within 30 minutes. Could I ask if you tested positive for Covid immediately after starting to feel sick? If not, how do you know that you were sick with Covid versus another virus you picked up days before? I'd be interested in hearing more, Carl. I believe strongly in Occam's Razor with most things in life. But when dealing with Covid......
 

Carl

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As for getting sick 30 minutes after exposure to your Covid positive friend.... You're right... no virus works within 30 minutes. Could I ask if you tested positive for Covid immediately after starting to feel sick? If not, how do you know that you were sick with Covid versus another virus you picked up days before? I'd be interested in hearing more, Carl. I believe strongly in Occam's Razor with most things in life. But when dealing with Covid......

I never got tested, I didn't see the need. I work from home, and hadn't been around anyone for at least a week prior, so I concluded it had to have been my friend. When I used to work with the public I would occasionally feel run down, similar to how I usually feel run down after a flight. I've come to believe many illnesses are a mixture of acute and delayed allergic reactions. Once the immune system is stimulated an allergic reaction can mimic an infection. With so many toxic chemicals in our air, food and water... no wonder we're sick, as our bodies are constantly detoxing. I'm not 100% sold on the science of viruses either, but I don't want to debate that here. It causes needless division, similar to the debate about contrails vs. chemtrails. Everyone has their opinion, no use debating what can't be proven.
 

BillyRay

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I never got tested, I didn't see the need. I work from home, and hadn't been around anyone for at least a week prior, so I concluded it had to have been my friend. When I used to work with the public I would occasionally feel run down, similar to how I usually feel run down after a flight. I've come to believe many illnesses are a mixture of acute and delayed allergic reactions. Once the immune system is stimulated an allergic reaction can mimic an infection. With so many toxic chemicals in our air, food and water... no wonder we're sick, as our bodies are constantly detoxing. I'm not 100% sold on the science of viruses either, but I don't want to debate that here. It causes needless division, similar to the debate about contrails vs. chemtrails. Everyone has their opinion, no use debating what can't be proven.
Agreed.... So we leave it here - and I'm fine with that. Thanks, Carl! (y)
 

יהוה_saves

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What post is that where they are telling elders what not to say? I think I missed that.
i heard she died! omg how tragic. 54 years old.

i was listening to HRR this evening and his guest made a really good point- he posited that only Satan and the demons hate humanity enough to come up with a scheme such as this- men alone could not have done it- they had to have been assisted by intelligent demonic forces to pull this whole thing off- they exploited our fears, exploited our natural love for one another, they used it to cause people to turn a deadly weapon on themselves without realizing.

they are murdering babies and children without blinking an eye, and the untold suffering of those who survived but are living with painful, debilitating chronic conditions.

This isn’t just murder, it is also unfathomable hatred for God’s human creation that he loves deeply- this a type of hatred is one that only Satan himself has for humanity and only he can engender.
 

evw

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i heard she died! omg how tragic. 54 years old.

i was listening to HRR this evening and his guest made a really good point- he posited that only Satan and the demons hate humanity enough to come up with a scheme such as this- men alone could not have done it- they had to have been assisted by intelligent demonic forces to pull this whole thing off- they exploited our fears, exploited our natural love for one another, they used it to cause people to turn a deadly weapon on themselves without realizing.

they are murdering babies and children without blinking an eye, and the untold suffering of those who survived but are living with painful, debilitating chronic conditions.

This isn’t just murder, it is also unfathomable hatred for God’s human creation that he loves deeply- this a type of hatred is one that only Satan himself has for humanity and only he can engender.
It makes me sooooo angry that the GB is going along with this, but also incredibly sad that, still, brs and zrs are queuing for their next poison shot, without thinking where their fatigue, extremely low blood counts and constantly feeling sick e.g. comes from so suddenly
 

Liz

Active member
It makes me sooooo angry that the GB is going along with this, but also incredibly sad that, still, brs and zrs are queuing for their next poison shot, without thinking where their fatigue, extremely low blood counts and constantly feeling sick e.g. comes from so suddenly
Some of the covid-19 vaxxed (and one unvaxxed sister that is married to an elder) brothers and sisters in my city and beyond have been frequently getting sick with various viruses since they have had their fake covid-19 "vaccines", but they have not yet connected the dots and ascertained their frequent viruses are from the covid-19 "vaccines" and the unvaxxed sister is getting shedding from her vaxxed elder husband. There is one brother that I think his cancer turned up after he had his last covid-19 "vaccine", as his cancer turned up last year and as he is an elder he would have got all his 3 covid-19 "vaccines" in 2021. You may know that our Governing Body mandated all our Jehovah Witness elders to get the covid-19 "vaccine". It is pathetic that many people in my congregation got their covid-19 "vaccines" and they were not mandated by our government because they were either on a government pension or they worked in a covid-19 non-mandated job. But as these stupid GB obeying JWs have not had severe side affects, they are heartless to the large amount of death and injury caused by these covid-19 vaccines. Their attitude is "It hasn't happened to me, so it doesn't involve me and these people are maybe making it up" even though the GB obeying JWs like to tell me about their health problems and with one of these JWs (an anointed JW) I have heard since 2009 the many health problems that they have had, and how they have been badly treated by some JWs, and also told me multiple times "MY ROLE IS PRAYER AS MY HEALTH DOES NOT ALLOW TO ME TO DO MUCH IN THE MINISTRY." When I asked this anointed JW to pray to get the covid-19 "vaccines" stopped the person replied with 'We are alright, nothing has happened to us with these vaccines.' How unChristian!!!
It seems to me these unChristian JWs actually think are being Christian by being unChristian. They have no conscience as they do not seem concerned by the large death and injury happening to people from the covid-19 "vaccines". I can see in their facial expressions they are not concerned for people who have had death or injury in their family. These fake Christians also have no concern for me wanting to obey God as ruler than men and obey I Corinthians 3:17 "If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy that person; for God’s temple is sacred,... " https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/bible-verses-about-your-body/ by not getting injected the with fake covid-19 "vaccine".
Our GB are teaching their flock to be unloving and unChristian to people who have been "vaccine" injured, and most JWs cannot discern what the GB said regarding the covid-19 "vaccines" is based upon the lies that gov and big pharma have told them. Our GB have no excuse to treat their flock badly by ignoring their need for legal support before the government including the courts, as they know they have had multiple legal wins over the last 100 years particularly the flag salute and the blood issue. The GB cannot claim they do not have the expertise to deal with medical issues, as they have dealt with the blood issue for years with great courage, time and effort. The GB had to go against the gov and MSM (including medical) narrative regarding the blood issue particularly back in 1950s and before, but with the covid-19 "vaccines" the GB have done the opposite and thereby treated their flock badly by not supporting us legally, but encouraging their flock to get injected with the fake covid-19 "vaccines"!!!:mad: The GB constantly threw their unChristian attitude in our faces since August 2021 when the first atrocious covid-19 "vaccine" video was uploaded on jw.org These covid-19 "vaccine" stayed on jw.org till at least August 2022, but by October 2022 they were taken off jw.org and replaced with other videos that had the label November 2021, December 2021 etc and have nothing to do with the covid-19 "vaccines" and are on more appropriate subjects - like the GB are trying to tell people these are the videos they uploaded in that month. I got news for the GB " I DOWN LOADED ALL YOUR ATROCIOUS VIDEOS PUSHING THE COVID-19 "VACCINES"!!!:eek: "
Jehovah is going to hold the our GB to account before the end or when the end comes. :eek::mad: There are scriptures that foretold what the GB is doing ie wolves in sheeps clothing, weeds and the wheat growing together and then the weeds are pulled out at the harvest, separated and burn with fire etc.
 

evw

Well-known member
Some of the covid-19 vaxxed (and one unvaxxed sister that is married to an elder) brothers and sisters in my city and beyond have been frequently getting sick with various viruses since they have had their fake covid-19 "vaccines", but they have not yet connected the dots and ascertained their frequent viruses are from the covid-19 "vaccines" and the unvaxxed sister is getting shedding from her vaxxed elder husband. There is one brother that I think his cancer turned up after he had his last covid-19 "vaccine", as his cancer turned up last year and as he is an elder he would have got all his 3 covid-19 "vaccines" in 2021. You may know that our Governing Body mandated all our Jehovah Witness elders to get the covid-19 "vaccine". It is pathetic that many people in my congregation got their covid-19 "vaccines" and they were not mandated by our government because they were either on a government pension or they worked in a covid-19 non-mandated job. But as these stupid GB obeying JWs have not had severe side affects, they are heartless to the large amount of death and injury caused by these covid-19 vaccines. Their attitude is "It hasn't happened to me, so it doesn't involve me and these people are maybe making it up" even though the GB obeying JWs like to tell me about their health problems and with one of these JWs (an anointed JW) I have heard since 2009 the many health problems that they have had, and how they have been badly treated by some JWs, and also told me multiple times "MY ROLE IS PRAYER AS MY HEALTH DOES NOT ALLOW TO ME TO DO MUCH IN THE MINISTRY." When I asked this anointed JW to pray to get the covid-19 "vaccines" stopped the person replied with 'We are alright, nothing has happened to us with these vaccines.' How unChristian!!!
It seems to me these unChristian JWs actually think are being Christian by being unChristian. They have no conscience as they do not seem concerned by the large death and injury happening to people from the covid-19 "vaccines". I can see in their facial expressions they are not concerned for people who have had death or injury in their family. These fake Christians also have no concern for me wanting to obey God as ruler than men and obey I Corinthians 3:17 "If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy that person; for God’s temple is sacred,... " https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/bible-verses-about-your-body/ by not getting injected the with fake covid-19 "vaccine".
Our GB are teaching their flock to be unloving and unChristian to people who have been "vaccine" injured, and most JWs cannot discern what the GB said regarding the covid-19 "vaccines" is based upon the lies that gov and big pharma have told them. Our GB have no excuse to treat their flock badly by ignoring their need for legal support before the government including the courts, as they know they have had multiple legal wins over the last 100 years particularly the flag salute and the blood issue. The GB cannot claim they do not have the expertise to deal with medical issues, as they have dealt with the blood issue for years with great courage, time and effort. The GB had to go against the gov and MSM (including medical) narrative regarding the blood issue particularly back in 1950s and before, but with the covid-19 "vaccines" the GB have done the opposite and thereby treated their flock badly by not supporting us legally, but encouraging their flock to get injected with the fake covid-19 "vaccines"!!!:mad: The GB constantly threw their unChristian attitude in our faces since August 2021 when the first atrocious covid-19 "vaccine" video was uploaded on jw.org These covid-19 "vaccine" stayed on jw.org till at least August 2022, but by October 2022 they were taken off jw.org and replaced with other videos that had the label November 2021, December 2021 etc and have nothing to do with the covid-19 "vaccines" and are on more appropriate subjects - like the GB are trying to tell people these are the videos they uploaded in that month. I got news for the GB " I DOWN LOADED ALL YOUR ATROCIOUS VIDEOS PUSHING THE COVID-19 "VACCINES"!!!:eek: "
Jehovah is going to hold the our GB to account before the end or when the end comes. :eek::mad: There are scriptures that foretold what the GB is doing ie wolves in sheeps clothing, weeds and the wheat growing together and then the weeds are pulled out at the harvest, separated and burn with fire etc.
I feel for you Liz and that's why the love e-moji. It's so frustrating to see what's happening and being told 'to work hard on my trusting the GB, "becauce as long as I don't trust them, I don't trust Jehovah". The brother stopped me in front of my house to lecture me in this way: Christian you said? Well I'll leave it at that ;)
 

Liz

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I feel for you Liz and that's why the love e-moji. It's so frustrating to see what's happening and being told 'to work hard on my trusting the GB, "becauce as long as I don't trust them, I don't trust Jehovah". The brother stopped me in front of my house to lecture me in this way: Christian you said? Well I'll leave it at that ;)
 

Liz

Active member
I do not intend leaving the Jehovah's Witness organisation, as I can see the real attitude of the GB is coming to the surface Remember the scripture about the dross coming to the surface. This is foretold at "Remove the impurities from silver, and the sterling will be ready for the silversmith." https://biblehub.com/proverbs/25-4.htm and the wheat and the weeds growing together till the harvest, and they will be taken out and burned with fire at Matthew 13:24-30 I wish other people that leave jw.org because they are hurt by various things that have happened to them would see the broader picture and context of how Jehovah's hand is working.
I am a victim of child sex abuse by a JW in my local cong. I have been able to the get the police to investigate my sex abuse case twice but both times the JW org gave the police the run around and fobb off. My sex offender has managed to get the largest cover army I have ever seen, as his cover army consists his other victims, family (including his wife), friends, allies (including elder buddies) and enemies. I have never see anything like it in regards conning a large army to cover a criminal. Nobody covers pedophiles better than JWs at is known as a pedophiles paradise. So I know more than most people inside and outside JW org what is actually going with the child sex abuse issue and it's not good. Jehovah may use me to clean up the pedophile problem in the JW org- just wait see what is coming on this issue.
I do not intend leaving Jehovah's organisation even though the false Christians that would not help me last year when I needed their help in regards to the covid-19 vaccine mandate refused to help by supporting me legally not to take the vaccine - I will not be there to help them when they need it. I will just tell them "Remember you were not there to help me when I needed you, you chose not to help. I will not be helping you."
I can also see Jehovah's hand in the way things are moving ie all the atrocious covid-19 "vaccine" videos were uploaded on jw.org from August 2021 to August 2022, but we were able to download all these videos as are they are in MP4 format. I might be used to help remove the GB as I have proof of their behaviour which is actually criminal, because it is breaking the work, health and safety laws that your company has to abide by. Telling anyone to kill yourself or injure yourself is criminal, and if it is not criminal in your country they definitely will be liable in a civil court. The vax injury lawsuits will be a volcano and make the child sex abuse lawsuits seem like a hill in comparison. I believe the GB's manner of dealing with the child sex abuse is negligent, but it is not done to cause harm to the victims. But it appears to me the GB knew their flock were getting injured and maybe dying from these fake covid-19 "vaccines", but they continued to leave their atrocious "vaccine" pushing videos on jw.org. Remember I downloaded all their atrocious covid-19 fake "vaccine" videos. Hence Jehovah may use me to help clean up jw.org Jehovah set it all up for the GB and other religions to be enticed to push these fake covid-19 "vaccines". “He catches the [so-called] wise in their own shrewdness, And the advice of the devious is quickly thwarted." https://biblehub.com/job/5-13.htm
In my country we have very high work health safety laws that haven been thrown in the rubbish bin since early 2020 in regards to the "pandemic" and particularly with the covid-19 "vaccine" mandates. But I hope and pray that the government and big pharma are brought to justice - maybe Gov Ron DeSantis's grand jury investigation will help push this along. Japan is doing a probe on the covid-19 "vaccines". Remember prayer can move issues forward🙏.
The covid-19 "vaccine" mandates problem has shown to me and maybe many other JWs that the GB and elders talk alot about courage and praying and that Jehovah will always be there for you, but you have to pray for Jehovah to help you. But when the elders are put to the test they can't cope if they see that the GB are telling them to do something is the opposite of what Jehovah tells us to do. Most elders just do what the GB tell them to regardless of what the right thing to do is. The child sex abuse in the jw.org is a classic example of this.
You maybe already know that the GB has told the elders that they have to call the legal department in their branch office and ask what they should do when they have child sex abuse case, because the GB will not allow elders to report child sex abuse to the authorities if there is no written law to do so. But in 2019 there was a series of Watchtower study articles dealing with the child sex abuse. In one of these articles the GB said that anyone is free to report child sex abuse to authorities, but the GB still has the elders under their thumb and will not let the elders report child sex abuse to the authorities without a written law to telling them do so. One of the elders in my local congregation told me after the last of these Watchtower study articles dealing with the child abuse issue in 2019, nothing has changed in relation to elders reporting child sex abuse to authorities:eek:.
I have not informed you of the above information to bore you or to make you feel sorry for me. I informed you to let you know that I serve Jehovah - not men. Hence I OBEY GOD AS RULER RATHER MEN. I am in the JW org for friendship (although it is nice to have friends), I am in JW org as I feel this is where Jehovah wants me. JW has hit the nail on the head with a number of other issues ie the blood, the trinity, living forever, there will be people on the earth etc but we will be go through a very rough patch before we get into the new system. JWs may turn on us (this was foretold but I can't find the scripture🤣) maybe because they are doing what the government tells them to - this became very obvious during this "pandemic" with the GB mandating elders to the get "vaccine" and telling us wear masks in the Kingdom Hall after the government masks mandates had stopped when there is medical proof of the harm of facial masks. The JWs in my local area are not doing their own research in regards to the fake covid-19 "vaccines" even though we have told to "make sure of the more important things" Philippians 1:9,10 These lazy JWs believe what the GB and our government is telling them in regards to the fake "vaccines" despite the large scale injury and death these "vaccines" have caused. Can someone please explain to me how JWs can be so conned and fooled by the GB and our government that these fake "vaccines" are not vaccines even after I have given some of these JWs information about the death and injury caused by these fake "vaccines"??? :eek::eek::eek:
 

Sundial

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@Liz You have my sympathies, and you are now seeing most of the challenges involved in opening your eyes. This jump to understanding is hard and even painful but necessary in order to consolidate our love and devotion to Jehovah yet divorcing ourselves from what we now see is corrupt within the organization. As humans, we cannot believe evil and good about something at the same time and must eventually choose or go crazy. The journey for others to come to a decision regarding the examination of the organization is entirely personal. I really believe Jehovah wakes us up when we are ready.
 

Liz

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@Liz You have my sympathies, and you are now seeing most of the challenges involved in opening your eyes. This jump to understanding is hard and even painful but necessary in order to consolidate our love and devotion to Jehovah yet divorcing ourselves from what we now see is corrupt within the organization. As humans, we cannot believe evil and good about something at the same time and must eventually choose or go crazy. The journey for others to come to a decision regarding the examination of the organization is entirely personal. I really believe Jehovah wakes us up when we are ready.
You are another JW that is awake to the real JW org and it appears you are choosing to stay in the organisation and not leave - which shows you are spiritually mature.
 

Yupyup_yup

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comes from so suddenly
@Liz

Isaiah 47:9-11

But these two things will come upon you suddenly, in one day: Loss of children and widowhood. In full measure they will come upon you Because of your many sorceries and all your powerful spells. 10 You trusted in your wickedness. You said: “No one sees me.” Your wisdom and knowledge are what led you astray, And you say in your heart: “I am the one, and there is no one else.” 11 But calamity will come upon you, And none of your charms will stop it. Adversity will befall you; you will not be able to avert it. Sudden ruin will come upon you like you have never known
 
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TheJehuChariot

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stay in the organisation and not leave
Though I appreciate your heartfelt post and expressions and find it substantive, this expression you've used numerous times "staying in the organization" and in conjunction "spiritual maturity", are disconcerting. What exactly does it mean to "stay in the organization "? (Rhetorical question btw). Jehovah is the examiner of hearts. His people are those whom "think upon His name and strive to live whole souled in mind, heart and soul. "Staying in the Organization" terminology stems from indoctrination. That being said, Yes, I agree....if one can stay associated for a healthy routine, IF newly interested ones are found, then direct them to it for the basic elemental truths, etc. But correlating "staying in the Org" to "spiritual maturity" is like telling someone "staying on the sinking Titanic" is the "wisest course of action". In the end, it won't matter. Every person is different based on their life, experiences and relationship with God. If people stay away from the Organization because they have disdain for God, He will known it. But since we are not judges, it's best to leave that to Him. I for one no longer attend. But it's not due to bitterness. Rather more sadness and somewhat disgust by the elementary things taught and what has become cult like behavior. Though I don't label the latter broadly. It is however hard to stomach. I'd like to think there are numerous ones quite "spiritually mature" and astute with a deep connection to Jehovah, simply waiting. Similar to Moses in the desert, Job under trial, Elijah, Elisha, Enoch, Paul after his Damascus encounter. Just a thought to consider :)
 

Nomex

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Though I appreciate your heartfelt post and expressions and find it substantive, this expression you've used numerous times "staying in the organization" and in conjunction "spiritual maturity", are disconcerting. What exactly does it mean to "stay in the organization "? (Rhetorical question btw). Jehovah is the examiner of hearts. His people are those whom "think upon His name and strive to live whole souled in mind, heart and soul. "Staying in the Organization" terminology stems from indoctrination. That being said, Yes, I agree....if one can stay associated for a healthy routine, IF newly interested ones are found, then direct them to it for the basic elemental truths, etc. But correlating "staying in the Org" to "spiritual maturity" is like telling someone "staying on the sinking Titanic" is the "wisest course of action". In the end, it won't matter. Every person is different based on their life, experiences and relationship with God. If people stay away from the Organization because they have disdain for God, He will known it. But since we are not judges, it's best to leave that to Him. I for one no longer attend. But it's not due to bitterness. Rather more sadness and somewhat disgust by the elementary things taught and what has become cult like behavior. Though I don't label the latter broadly. It is however hard to stomach. I'd like to think there are numerous ones quite "spiritually mature" and astute with a deep connection to Jehovah, simply waiting. Similar to Moses in the desert, Job under trial, Elijah, Elisha, Enoch, Paul after his Damascus encounter. Just a thought to consider :)
Excellent points. I'd like to add this as well. Why is it we do not observe Holidays? Is there something wrong with gathering together as family and friends? Of course not. It's because said Holidays include acts of worship to demons. One of the reasons I no longer attend is because of the blatant GB worship that is going on. I no longer see it as "borderline idolatry" it is open idolatry and fulfillment of the prophecy that they have put themselves on the seat of Moses. To expand on this further,when it comes to birthdays, the reason we do not for example eat a birthday cake, or even later after the birthday celebration, or if someone gives us a piece of that cake, is because that cake is a "thing sacrificed to idols."

However, I would never tell someone else they shouldn't attend the meetings if that's what they want to do and if they can stomach the idolatry!
 
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Medi-tator

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Excellent points. I'd like to ad this as well. Why is it we do not observe Holidays? Is there something wrong with gathering together as family and friends? Of course not. It's because so Holidays include acts of worship to demons. One of the reasons I no longer attend is because of the blatant GB worship that is going on. I no longer see it as "borderline idolatry" it is open idolatry and fulfillment of the prophecy that they have put themselves on the seat of Moses. To expand on this further,when it comes to birthdays, the reason we do not for example eat a birthday cake, or even later after the birthday celebration, or if someone gives us a piece of that cake, is because that cake is a "thing sacrificed to idols."

However, I would never tell someone else they shouldn't attend the meetings if that's what they want to do and if they can stomach the idolatry!
If it's carrot cake with that yummy cream cheese frosting and it has been in the fridge at the office for a few hours having survived being gobbled up at an office b-day party which I did not attend and I see it, I am going in. Fork and all. :cool:😅😃
 

Nomex

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If it's carrot cake with that yummy cream cheese frosting and it has been in the fridge at the office for a few hours having survived being gobbled up at an office b-day party which I did not attend and I see it, I am going in. Fork and all. :cool:😅😃
OK, so I will also amend my statement to say, if you really love carrot cake, and you didn't sing "happy birthday" and it's left over in the fridge and you just can't help yourself....who am I to judge? :unsure:
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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@Liz You have my sympathies, and you are now seeing most of the challenges involved in opening your eyes. This jump to understanding is hard and even painful but necessary in order to consolidate our love and devotion to Jehovah yet divorcing ourselves from what we now see is corrupt within the organization. As humans, we cannot believe evil and good about something at the same time and must eventually choose or go crazy. The journey for others to come to a decision regarding the examination of the organization is entirely personal. I really believe Jehovah wakes us up when we are ready.
Wise advice.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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I feel for you Liz and that's why the love e-moji. It's so frustrating to see what's happening and being told 'to work hard on my trusting the GB, "becauce as long as I don't trust them, I don't trust Jehovah". The brother stopped me in front of my house to lecture me in this way: Christian you said? Well I'll leave it at that ;)
“To work hard on trusting the GB”!!!! ?? If one has to “work hard in trusting“ someone, then clearly there is a problem with what they are saying. Do they not ever stop to think what they are saying, these elders? If it is remotely difficult to trust another then we should heed the warning that our conscience is giving us, not suspend belief. The rubbish that elders can conjure up in their efforts to lead and control is no more than a Neverland of epic Micheal Jackson proportions. I can imagine the conversation: Elder. “Are you coming on the ministry today brother?” Targeted victim “No. I have heard all about the child abuse issues surrounding the GB, and that Christ begun ruling in 1914 well over a hundred years ago and nothing has happened; that the generation seeing these things is suddenly lengthened and that we are being coerced to inject ourselves with toxic vaccinations and so I am staying at home to work hard on making myself ignore all these alarming contradictions to faith and fool myself into trusting in and believing what they say. Every fibre of my body is screaming “beware” but I’m going to ignore this and just convince myself against all biblical advice that they are right because I know I’ll get disfellowshipped or labelled as ’weak’ if I question them. After all, they say that they are personally directed by Holy Spirit so I should believe that.” Elder “Well done brother. You will go far in the organisation etc etc.” A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi” as the Romans were fond of saying. “A precipice in front and wolves behind.”
 

Shekinah

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Their advice to only listen to the trustworthy MSM news will fatally backfire as soon as that same MSM will be forced to admit that the vaxx operation was nothing more than a mass genocide. The downfall of the MSM will also mean the downfall of the WT.

@Citrine : Thanks for reporting whats happening at the frontline. (y)
So true, I believe the whole WHO getting religious bodies involved was bait to be used against them come the time.
 
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