Stuck between Scripture and a hard place

Sunshower

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I heard that WT had to hire some ‘outside‘ helpers to come in on their building project at Ramapo.
It was in a video shown at one of the meetings. We frowned upon it as we took it as the brothers and sisters should remain safe but outsiders can get C19 and die. How loving.

But then we heard of what we call “Jesusville in the Outback”, that new project they’re building in Australia for the filming of Jesus’ life (you know, for the people that are ressurected 🤯🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️) Brothers working there have to be tested twice a week while working there. And I’ve read so many stories about the harmful things in those swabs and why they put in so far up your nose, I can’t imagine that not causing damage.
 

Jah-son

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I will say that Samuel Herd did not look well on the last video he did and I haven’t seen him since the Annual meeting videos.
Strange, as I was thinking the same thing in the back of my mind. I know he is getting up there in years so I didn't really think much of it. I'm glad you pointed it out. My wife accuses me of blaming all maladies on the jabs (which I proudly do) so at times I tend to doubt my intuition on these things.
Speaking of Sam Herd, I was listening to an ex JW / Bethelite YTber called watchingtheworld. He claims that Herd is their "token black" GB member and when Herd dies they will have to convince another black brother that he is "of the anointed" to fill the roll so they can meet their "diversity quota". He claims that they tend to convince brothers who they want to promote to GB status that they are anointed. I think he claimed that they did so with Kenny Cook who wasn't a partaker prior to his GB role.
If that practice is true, its despicable.
 

יהוה_saves

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I will say that Samuel Herd did not look well on the last video he did and I haven’t seen him since the Annual meeting videos.
is that the one where he said you can feed a pig slop and something something but don’t give it to a cow or shell ignore it, or something?

All eight of them appear to be in the range of unhealthy body mass index.

Morris looked hungover in his last GB update.

Lett’s voice shook during his delivery of his 2021 annual meeting talks- esp the one where he admonishes JWs not to be materialistic.
 

4JahandChrist

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I love that .."Sarcasm ON" ...."Sarcasm Off". 😁 Sarcasm is my default with Convid so no switch necessary. ;)

My take is that many Brothers around the World including Elders were on to the Covid sham and were bombing Bethel with emails letting them know that this Pandemic was orchestrated and planned.

The Brothers had no doubt already planned their Pro Jab Campaign and therefore had to gag and shut down independent thinking especially from free thinking Elders who could potentially sway many of the flock.

When Jehovah's "Channel" starts holding up the Luciferian UN as the Trusted Source and using Orwellian Labelling to silence debate you know something very smelly is going on at HQ and it's not because Anthony Morris is on a diet of Scotch and Beef Jerky. :poop:

If indeed the UN Conspiracy Article was placed to silence dissent this is absolute evidence that they knew of the potential dangers with the Covid Agenda. They must of had knowledge of all the available "conspiracy theories" otherwise why plant an article to try and counter them?

Howdy Folks. Driven pointed out that the UN conspiracy article came out in 2019 so I thought I'd better retract my post. I actually wasn't made aware of it til 2021. A MS friend of mine pointed me to it in response to my concerns about Convid.

That being the case in relation to Convid I don't think any meaning can be attached to it other than happenstance/coincidence.

In the broader context though I still think it is problematic as it effectively silences Brothers from referring to sources outside of MSM. It also undermines scriptures like 1 John 5:19 and 2nd Corinthians 4:4 which show that the first century Christians were "conspiracy factualists" .
 
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Medi-tator

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Strange, as I was thinking the same thing in the back of my mind. I know he is getting up there in years so I didn't really think much of it. I'm glad you pointed it out. My wife accuses me of blaming all maladies on the jabs (which I proudly do) so at times I tend to doubt my intuition on these things.
Speaking of Sam Herd, I was listening to an ex JW / Bethelite YTber called watchingtheworld. He claims that Herd is their "token black" GB member and when Herd dies they will have to convince another black brother that he is "of the anointed" to fill the roll so they can meet their "diversity quota". He claims that they tend to convince brothers who they want to promote to GB status that they are anointed. I think he claimed that they did so with Kenny Cook who wasn't a partaker prior to his GB role.
If that practice is true, its despicable.
"It is time for you to start partaking at the memorial Jah-son. We want you to have a seat at the table."
 

Sunshower

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I think he claimed that they did so with Kenny Cook who wasn't a partaker prior to his GB role.
If that practice is true, its despicable.
I read they did the same with Ted Jarocz. He was a friend of Nathan Knorr and started to use the symbols in 1974 just as his friend told him the GB would be expanded. He sure got a wonderful brochure when he died. My dad didn’t get one when he passed away, I wonder why 🤔
 

Ms_ladyblue

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Rumor is Ted was a terrible man. Perhaps, he's on the secret database.
@PJ54 That’s probably true. I saw in a video on YT years ago someone approached him at a convention about his terrible act with a child. And I‘m not sure about now but protesters against the WT were shown outside HQ having signs about these known abuse, including T.J. He probably is on the database.
 

SusanB

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True. But I referenced it inaccurately so I thought I'd better correct it. I presented it as fact rather than a suggestion.....just me playing lawyer. 🙂
After refreshing my memory and talking to my husband I need to correct that it was likely December 2020 when I first saw the article on Conspiracy Theories/Misinformation. I have found the article online, which was the only place that I saw it and it does not have a date.
 

Sunshower

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After refreshing my memory and talking to my husband I need to correct that it was likely December 2020 when I first saw the article on Conspiracy Theories/Misinformation. I have found the article online, which was the only place that I saw it and it does not have a date.
It occurred right after the article about the jabs was put on the site. December 2020 sounds right as they started injecting people around that time.

I checked my phone and I sent a warning from a Dutch professor with a lot of letters behind his name to two elders on January 4th 2021. So the article must have appeared around that time.
 

PJ54

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Wouldn’t surprise me at all.

It seems he was at the convention here in Holland in 2005 but I can’t remember. He didn’t make much of an impression on me 😁
@PJ54 That’s probably true. I saw in a video on YT years ago someone approached him at a convention about his terrible act with a child. And I‘m not sure about now but protesters against the WT were shown outside HQ having signs about these known abuse, including T.J. He probably is on the database.
Apparently Pat Garza had some testimony. It's pretty bad from what I hear.
 
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