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Citrine

Citrine

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Just had an amazing discussion with a sister we’ve know all our life! We haven’t spoken since 2020 and she lives within about 30 min from Bethel. She's always been a very by the book, rule follower type (high school teacher for 20+ years) and with her proximity to Bethel we just assumed she had gone along with the vx agenda. She contacted us about a minor health question unrelated to anything cvd and then the discussion started rolling! We did the usual tip toe comments and questions and then when we both figured out we were all 100% anti all thing cvd and vx she let the info fly! She is surrounded by all things Bethel and Bethelites and had an front row seat for all of the shenanigans! Here is what she reported -

There was huge conflicts with the vx within Bethel - it was not the smooth unity they want us to think it was!
Reports of sisters crying in their rooms not wanting the vx
Some passed out immediately after receiving the vx.
A brother mid 40s died in his sleep at Bethel and they’re keeping it quiet - that’s one that she knows of
The Bethelites in her congregation are experiencing massive sickness and disappear for weeks at a time
They had a recent local needs coming down HARD on social media and to only trust the MSM and to use Fact-check.com (she was appalled) they said that from the stage! 😳
The narrative has changed to the GB never said the vx was anything but personal choice
Many elders stepping down now.
She tried to warn a pioneer sister about the vx and was turned into the elders for “wild talk”! They contacted her husband to discuss this on a shepherding call and he told them no and that there was nothing to discuss! 👏👏
She is adamant the GB has no business going there with the vx and she now suspects a political motive! She’s almost there and I’m sure we helped give a little nudge😉
 
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SusanB

SusanB

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Citrine said:
Just had an amazing discussion with a sister we’ve know all our life! We haven’t spoken since 2020 and she lives within about 30 min from Bethel. She's always been a very by the book, rule follower type (high school teacher for 20+ years) and with her proximity to Bethel we just assumed she had gone along with the vx agenda. She contacted us about a minor health question unrelated to anything cvd and then the discussion started rolling! We did the usual tip toe comments and questions and then when we both figured out we were all 100% anti all thing cvd and vx she let the info fly! She is surrounded by all things Bethel and Bethelites and had an front row seat for all of the shenanigans! Here is what she reported -

There was huge conflicts with the vx within Bethel - it was not the smooth unity they want us to think it was!
Reports of sisters crying in their rooms not wanting the vx
Some passed out immediately after receiving the vx.
A brother mid 40s died in his sleep at Bethel and they’re keeping it quiet - that’s one that she knows of
The Bethelites in her congregation are experiencing massive sickness and disappear for weeks at a time
They had a recent local needs coming down HARD on social media and to only trust the MSM and to use Fact-check.com (she was appalled) they said that from the stage! 😳
The narrative has changed to the GB never said the vx was anything but personal choice
Many elders stepping down now.
She tried to warn a pioneer sister about the vx and was turned into the elders for “wild talk”! They contacted her husband to discuss this on a shepherding call and he told them no and that there was nothing to discuss! 👏👏
She is adamant the GB has no business going there with the vx and she now suspects a political motive! She’s almost there and I’m sure we helped give a little nudge😉
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I’d heard some rumors but thanks for the clarity. I would have suspected this is how it went. I don’t think things will smooth out anytime soon.
 
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Sutterhome

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Citrine said:
Just had an amazing discussion with a sister we’ve know all our life! We haven’t spoken since 2020 and she lives within about 30 min from Bethel. She's always been a very by the book, rule follower type (high school teacher for 20+ years) and with her proximity to Bethel we just assumed she had gone along with the vx agenda. She contacted us about a minor health question unrelated to anything cvd and then the discussion started rolling! We did the usual tip toe comments and questions and then when we both figured out we were all 100% anti all thing cvd and vx she let the info fly! She is surrounded by all things Bethel and Bethelites and had an front row seat for all of the shenanigans! Here is what she reported -

There was huge conflicts with the vx within Bethel - it was not the smooth unity they want us to think it was!
Reports of sisters crying in their rooms not wanting the vx
Some passed out immediately after receiving the vx.
A brother mid 40s died in his sleep at Bethel and they’re keeping it quiet - that’s one that she knows of
The Bethelites in her congregation are experiencing massive sickness and disappear for weeks at a time
They had a recent local needs coming down HARD on social media and to only trust the MSM and to use Fact-check.com (she was appalled) they said that from the stage! 😳
The narrative has changed to the GB never said the vx was anything but personal choice
Many elders stepping down now.
She tried to warn a pioneer sister about the vx and was turned into the elders for “wild talk”! They contacted her husband to discuss this on a shepherding call and he told them no and that there was nothing to discuss! 👏👏
She is adamant the GB has no business going there with the vx and she now suspects a political motive! She’s almost there and I’m sure we helped give a little nudge😉
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Do you happen to know the name of her congregation? Im in NY and know some teachers.
 
Jah-son

Jah-son

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Citrine said:
Just had an amazing discussion with a sister we’ve know all our life! We haven’t spoken since 2020 and she lives within about 30 min from Bethel. She's always been a very by the book, rule follower type (high school teacher for 20+ years) and with her proximity to Bethel we just assumed she had gone along with the vx agenda. She contacted us about a minor health question unrelated to anything cvd and then the discussion started rolling! We did the usual tip toe comments and questions and then when we both figured out we were all 100% anti all thing cvd and vx she let the info fly! She is surrounded by all things Bethel and Bethelites and had an front row seat for all of the shenanigans! Here is what she reported -

There was huge conflicts with the vx within Bethel - it was not the smooth unity they want us to think it was!
Reports of sisters crying in their rooms not wanting the vx
Some passed out immediately after receiving the vx.
A brother mid 40s died in his sleep at Bethel and they’re keeping it quiet - that’s one that she knows of
The Bethelites in her congregation are experiencing massive sickness and disappear for weeks at a time
They had a recent local needs coming down HARD on social media and to only trust the MSM and to use Fact-check.com (she was appalled) they said that from the stage! 😳
The narrative has changed to the GB never said the vx was anything but personal choice
Many elders stepping down now.
She tried to warn a pioneer sister about the vx and was turned into the elders for “wild talk”! They contacted her husband to discuss this on a shepherding call and he told them no and that there was nothing to discuss! 👏👏
She is adamant the GB has no business going there with the vx and she now suspects a political motive! She’s almost there and I’m sure we helped give a little nudge😉
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Its only a matter of time now. We need to keep praying for and visualizing the exposure and fall of WT. With eyes of faith we can see it as if its already happened. Feel how it will be when all of those innocent, honest hearted, lovely people are released from WT bondage. Its happening. Its glorious!
 
Paul H

Paul H

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Their advice to only listen to the trustworthy MSM news will fatally backfire as soon as that same MSM will be forced to admit that the vaxx operation was nothing more than a mass genocide. The downfall of the MSM will also mean the downfall of the WT.

@Citrine : Thanks for reporting whats happening at the frontline. (y)
 
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Yupyup_yup

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Paul H said:
Their advice to only listen to the trustworthy MSM news will fatally backfire as soon as that same MSM will be forced to admit that the vaxx operation was nothing more than a mass genocide. The downfall of the MSM will also mean the downfall of the WT.

@Citrine : Thanks for reporting whats happening at the frontline. (y)
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Especially when elections come through

They're going to rename it to the Trump vaccine and start spitting off all the problems in order to destroy his chances of winning the US election
 
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Soul Sage

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I'm not surprised they recommended fact check . Com
Shows how stupid they are. Heard some sisters recommending that website on a Zoom service call. I pushed back on that though, saying if you follow the money where fact check . Com gets their funding. You would see the conflict of interests across the board. You'll get more truthful news if you watch independent media online.
If you watch mainstream news channels and think they are more truthful, you are foolish. They literally hire all these news journalists with deep state ties to the CIA, FBI and military industrial complex. The very organizations that Christians need to keep an eye on. Religion won't be the ones to attack us in the end, as they will eventually attack that Harlot too. It would be a coalition of nations, they are the early stages of Gog of Magog.

Glad to hear about that conversation you had with her Citrine. Bethel doesn't want to admit it but some bethelites left bethel because they refused COVID mandates. Still they were a small number in comparison to those who complied anyways. It's especially sad too as some young wives in bethel were especially nervous about it affecting their chances of having children one day. I'm thinking that's why some young women in bethel were crying. They took it, and probably saw the difference in their period cycles and then had regrets taking the vaccine as they could see their body changes occur. Of course they are going to keep this private though. You don't talk about periods among bethelite men.
 
BagdadBill

BagdadBill

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Soul Sage said:
Bethel doesn't want to admit it but some bethelites left bethel because they refused COVID mandates. Still they were a small number in comparison to those who complied anyways. It's especially sad too as some young wives in bethel were especially nervous about it affecting their chances of having children one day. I'm thinking that's why some young women in bethel were crying. They took it, and probably saw the difference in their period cycles and then had regrets taking the vaccine as they could see their body changes occur. Of course they are going to keep this private though. You don't talk about periods among bethelite men.
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Is it just me? I have wondered why the JW.org site has no contact email account listed. No comments. No email function so as to leave a comment. That isn't coincidence. It matters not. "You can run but you can't hide" - Joe Lewis.
 
Carl

Carl

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Soul Sage said:
Bethel doesn't want to admit it but some bethelites left bethel because they refused COVID mandates. Still they were a small number in comparison to those who complied anyways.
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They can claim 99% of current residents took the shot, but they didn't tell us how many left. Studies show that people are more inclined to stand their ground when the have a least one ally. 99% makes you feel pretty alone if you're in the 1% group, so let's do some math... if Bethel has 1,000 people and 100 left due to the vax, while the remaining 891 took the vax and 9 declined for let's say health reasons that were excused... the GB can claim 99% of Bethel took the vax, but the true number would be 89%. Not a huge difference, but that 10% difference could have been a high enough number for some to refuse, but instead they took the shot because 99% made them feel alone. Just a thought...
 
BagdadBill

BagdadBill

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Carl said:
They can claim 99% of current residents took the shot, but they didn't tell us how many left. Studies show that people are more inclined to stand their ground when the have a least one ally. 99% makes you feel pretty alone if you're in the 1% group, so let's do some math... if Bethel has 1,000 people and 100 left due to the vax, while the remaining 891 took the vax and 9 declined for let's say health reasons that were excused... the GB can claim 99% of Bethel took the vax, but the true number would be 89%. Not a huge difference, but that 10% difference could have been a high enough number for some to refuse, but instead they took the shot because 99% made them feel alone. Just a thought...
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Elijah was almost completely alone. God sent him food via birds and made him aware that he wasn’t the only person serving Jehovah. This example at Bethel and throughout the congregations will be spoken of one day as a time when people were tested as to who they had faith in. God or man.
 
BagdadBill

BagdadBill

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Yupyup_yup said:
They said 99% for legal purposes.... if in the future someone try to sue them... now they can say it was personal choice... and can't be sue


Plausible deniability
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I would agree if I were not a JW. As you already know, there are certain things that the GB can say to invoke fear in the average JW. After all, it’s Jehovah’s spirit directed organization, right? Splane made the strongest claim as to the jab being from God. He will pay for that sin.
 
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