Stepping down as an elder

Liz

Active member
Hi @Liz are you new to the forum? Didn't see any introduction for you in that thread. Anyway, can totally empathize with your situation. It is unfortunate that many elders (generalizing) don't measure their words or reflect on how they can hurt more than motivate or encourage. You are not alone by no means. Perhaps if you would like support, feedback, advice or comments on how best to handle your major issue, etc. perhaps create a new Thread to create discussion? Psalms 119:165, applied generally, focuses in on us continuing to love Jah and follow/live by his laws, wherever you are. In that respect, no one can be stumbled by the actions of another as we don't serve man/men, but yet only the father, Jehovah.
Thank you for your kind words, but know that I am not stumbled. Although I am angry at the GB for their atrocious behaviour in regards to a personal issue that I have been dealing with for over 30 years. Since late 2011 I particularly needed the support of the local JWs in my area, but I got the exact opposite!!! This personal has not yet been finished - it still ongoing 😭 . It would achieve nothing and help no one if I left JW org, but I know that many JWs in my local area would rather I was not at their meetings so that they would not see a constant reminder of their atrocious behavior they have done to me. But that is their problem - not my mine. As I serve Jehovah - not men or the GB or the JWs causing me trouble.
But more importantly the GB's behavior in regards to the covid-19 "vaccine" not protecting and supporting their flock from this "vaccine". Instead the GB have been actively encouraging their flock to take this "vaccine", and mandating the elders to take this "vaccine"!!! Jehovah will hold the GB to account. The GB will not escape Jehovah's wrath!!!
 
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BARNABY THE DOG.

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This should be interesting! I’m sure you know what to avoid saying but at some point the question will probably come up if you still feel Jehovah is directing the organization. That’s definitely a trap to take things further. As an update my husband avoided all discussions with the elders after he submitted his letter in November. Last week after many requests to meet he texted several of them back saying after the December letter from the org about all schools require the vx his decision was reinforced and there was no need to talk. They finally announced he was no longer an elder this week. It’s over and he’s relieved. Please update us how it goes with them!
That must have been a dreadful time for you both. When I left I still remember the mental agony to this day. Never doubt that you did the right thing. The improved relationship with Jehovah and understanding of the truth is simply incomparable to what it was when living in shadow of watchtower. I never believed it possible, but it was and remains so.
 

Liz

Active member
Take this with you and play it for them.😀
There is alot of parallel in this video with how some JWs behave, while thinking they are behaving as Jehovah and Jesus have taught them to behave. It has become very clear to me that many JWs worship the GB regardless of what the GB says. The JWs worshipping the GB do not see that they are worshipping the GB. By worshipping the GB these false JWs are behaving very badly by protecting and supporting their fellow JWs who need them 😭 .
It has become very clear to me with the covid-19 "vaccine" mandates that many JWs are worshipping the GB as most of the JWs in my local area have taken this fake "vaccine". None of the JWs in my local that have taken the fake "vaccine" have died from the fake "vaccine" or have had major side affects. Hence these JWs have no compassion for people who have died or have had major side affects from the fake "vaccine", even though some of these JWs have had major health issues leading up to taking the fake "vaccine" and like to talk about their health issues and want and need compassion. As they have no compassion for other people with health problems caused by the fake "vaccine", they are not behaving in a Godly manner/Christlike manner. These fake JWs are behaving very badly and doing what Satan wants be not doing what Jesus and Jehovah tell to do when people need compassion.
 

Liz

Active member
That must have been a dreadful time for you both. When I left I still remember the mental agony to this day. Never doubt that you did the right thing. The improved relationship with Jehovah and understanding of the truth is simply incomparable to what it was when living in shadow of watchtower. I never believed it possible, but it was and remains so.
I am angry at the GB for their atrocious behaviour in regards to a personal issue that I have been dealing with for over 30 years. Since late 2011 I particularly needed the support of the local JWs in my area, but I got the exact opposite!!! This personal has not yet been finished - it still ongoing 😭 . It would achieve nothing and help no one if I left JW org, but I know that many JWs in my local area would rather I was not at their meetings so that they would not see a constant reminder of their atrocious behavior they have done to me. But that is their problem - not my mine. As I serve Jehovah - not men or the GB or the JWs causing me trouble.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

Well-known member
I am angry at the GB for their atrocious behaviour in regards to a personal issue that I have been dealing with for over 30 years. Since late 2011 I particularly needed the support of the local JWs in my area, but I got the exact opposite!!! This personal has not yet been finished - it still ongoing 😭 . It would achieve nothing and help no one if I left JW org, but I know that many JWs in my local area would rather I was not at their meetings so that they would not see a constant reminder of their atrocious behavior they have done to me. But that is their problem - not my mine. As I serve Jehovah - not men or the GB or the JWs causing me trouble.
I cannot help but agree with your anger over the blindness shown by otherwise well meaning witnesses. It is a contradiction in terms of the principles of truth yet necessary in the prophesy of our times to illustrate the need to “get out” of the corruptive running sore that the watchtower has become. Were that not the case, how would we be warned of the coming catastrophe? As the scripture says, “…do not be terrified….but to lift your head up for your deliverance is near.” Your anger is righteous, just as it was with Jesus when he took apart the money changers in the temple. If you were not angry, you would have cause for concern. Therefore, rejoice in your anger for you have been shown the truth. You will feel better for it as it is rightly placed and by doing so, your anger will be channeled into joy at having been enlightened by understanding. The bible tells us that the yoke of Christ is easy, undoubtably meaning that the understanding of truth and compliance with it, though hard at times when we fail - but also when we are alive to the situation in watchtower, gives us an inner peace. The battle is not ours to fight, but if you are still working at the coal-face, then you are constantly at war with it. That is a hard but honourable path to choose so take care of yourself not to loose the joy of peace that comes with the understanding that we have been given. It is key to our endurance. 👍
 

Liz

Active member
I cannot help but agree with your anger over the blindness shown by otherwise well meaning witnesses. It is a contradiction in terms of the principles of truth yet necessary in the prophesy of our times to illustrate the need to “get out” of the corruptive running sore that the watchtower has become. Were that not the case, how would we be warned of the coming catastrophe? As the scripture says, “…do not be terrified….but to lift your head up for your deliverance is near.” Your anger is righteous, just as it was with Jesus when he took apart the money changers in the temple. If you were not angry, you would have cause for concern. Therefore, rejoice in your anger for you have been shown the truth. You will feel better for it as it is rightly placed and by doing so, your anger will be channeled into joy at having been enlightened by understanding. The bible tells us that the yoke of Christ is easy, undoubtably meaning that the understanding of truth and compliance with it, though hard at times when we fail - but also when we are alive to the situation in watchtower, gives us an inner peace. The battle is not ours to fight, but if you are still working at the coal-face, then you are constantly at war with it. That is a hard but honourable path to choose so take care of yourself not to loose the joy of peace that comes with the understanding that we have been given. It is key to our endurance. 👍
I am still at the coal face (in the JW org) dealing with the major problem I mentioned above that has been ongoing for over 30 years. Last year the real face of the JWs in my local area came to the surface due to the covid-19 "vaccine" mandates that I was forced to endure with no help from anyone in the JW org. I did not take the covid-19 "vaccine", but it caused me alot of stress when I had to get the covid-19 to finish my health certificate. Our government required people doing this health certificate to get the covid-19 "vaccine", but I could not take this covid-19 "vaccine" due to following a clear instruction from Jehovah at 1 Corinthians 3:16,17 - not to ruin our body, or God will destroy us.
The JWs in my local area think the GB are correct in telling us to take the covid-19 "vaccine" and about 95% have taken this bioweapon. Most of these people have not done any research that is out there on the internet, and there is alot of information on the internet that these covid-19 "vaccines" are injuring and killing people on a large scale, although not large enough for robot JWs to think for themselves :eek: :ROFLMAO:.
The covid-19 "vaccines" are now going to be investigated in Florida in a grand jury as they are killing and injuring people.
https://greenmedinfo.com/blog/flori...antis-request-investigate-covid-vaccine-manuf
Japan has launched an official investigation into the the covid-19 "vaccines".
Since early 2020 the GB have consistently called the inflated influenza statistics a pandemic. I know that is what governments and main stream news were calling the flu outbreak, but a few people knew early on in the "pandemic" that it was a scam/fake. Some of these people had medical training, but not every person that saw the pandemic as scam had medical training. These people that saw the pandemic as a scam knew things were not adding up and could see through the pandemic scam. I knew by mid 2020 that the lockdowns were not needed, but I was not able to do anything the change lockdowns. So the GB have had success with the blood issue even though they have no medical training in a university, but they could not see the pandemic as a scam???!!!:eek::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
You can see by the 2 attached files that the inflated influenza was made in a lab and the US patent for vaccine nanotech an agent of biowarfare. I did not make these documents. I downloaded these documents from twitter.
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Sutterhome

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They were in shock when I told them I no longer wanted to serve as elder after 24 years. We met at my home. 80% of the convo was about red pilling them on the vax and mandates. One said it was like wearing a seat belt. Smh. They just think WT is trying to be extra safe, nothing nefarious. I just made the theme about control. Tried to talk me about of it, but that was pointless.
They think I am spiritually weak, which is 100% false.

SH
 

Citrine

Well-known member
They were in shock when I told them I no longer wanted to serve as elder after 24 years. We met at my home. 80% of the convo was about red pilling them on the vax and mandates. One said it was like wearing a seat belt. Smh. They just think WT is trying to be extra safe, nothing nefarious. I just made the theme about control. Tried to talk me about of it, but that was pointless.
They think I am spiritually weak, which is 100% false.

SH

That sounds about right. We too are getting messages from the elders that they’re worried for us. 🙄 One elder even left a message that they’ve been watching for us on Zoom and have been keeping track that we are no longer logging in - not creepy at all! 🙄🫣
Do you think you made a dent with them or is it too much for them? Did they accept your letter?
 
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KevinB

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I have tried to talk to a few JWs in my local area regarding the covid-19 "vaccines" not being safe for us and the GB should not be telling anyone or even suggesting to take this medical injections/"vaccines". All the JWs I spoke to regarding the covid-19 "vaccines" totally refused to consider what I was trying to tell them. This is exactly like trying to tell people who are not JWs that there is no hell, and no trinity etc!!! It also has shown that most JWs are sheep and do what ever the GB tell them to without doing any research for themselves if what the GB tells to is correct. For along time the GB have told us do your own research using the Bible and other tools and make your own decisions if this is a correct option for you. But with the covid-19 "vaccines" the GB did not force us to take the covid-19 "vaccines", but they definitely tried to encourage us take the covid-19 "vaccines", by their multiple videos on jw.org talking about the benefits of these "vaccines":eek:. It is their job to take care of their flock and defend us and support us if needed in court or suchlike, by using their lawyers to help us. We have helped the GB financially and with prayers for years, and in return they have thrown us to the wolves and lions😭. Jehovah sees all the GB have done and will hold them accountable in the future🙏.
I know some will disagree, but just as JW's use to encourage people to leave Christendom, I would encourage people to leave that dead org.

Personally I feel that to continue viewing them as "God's people" is dangerous. Some forget Christ's congregation started in 33 C.E., not in 1919, and false religion hasn't been judged yet. "God's people" are and will be defined by their faith in God and Chris and their love for Jah. Those leaving that org because of their faith in God and Christ and their love for Jah more closely resemble God's people than those remaining in the org who tacitly perpetuate that vax nightmare. Also if people leave it, they can always return if it is set straight and reformed according to the truth. People leaving in droves may even shock the brothers and cause them to wonder what's going on and ask questions and demand answers from the GB.

Unfortunaly I feel that the GB is separating the faithful out of the org using this vaccine mandate issue. Like a cult, they want to get rid of anybody who doesn't follow them blindly. Sooooo are "God's people" proving to be on the inside or the outside of that org?

I'm sure the GB will do just as the WHO encourages, to view anti-vaxxers as terrorists - https://newspunch.com/anti-vaccine-activism-is-deadlier-than-global-terrorism-says-who/
 

Yupyup_yup

Well-known member
Personally I believe when they identified themselves as the "faithful slave" back in 2012 that was the straw that broke the camel's back, or Jehovah's last straw, because they took Christ's place "over" his congregation, apparently by a direct appointment from Christ

Matthew 23:2
"The scribes and the Pharisees (God's religious leaders at that time) have seated themselves in the seat of Moses."

Jehovahs religious leaders have always turned away from Him at key points in history.... At their own peril after being warned...

Why would it be any different at this time?

God is saving those with a "ear to listen" and not incorporated organizations of men

Rev 13:7
 
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Yupyup_yup

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I wonder who the faithful and discreet slave will be when Jesus comes. The GB have shown to us with their atrocious behavior with the child sex abuse issue and the covid-19 vaccines that they are not behaving like the faithful and discreet slave, as they have not been faithful to their heavenly father Jehovah and to their flock in these major issues.


Matthew 24:48-50
But if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’ 49 and he starts to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, 50 the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, and he will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his place with the hypocrites. There is where his weeping and the gnashing of his teeth will be
 

SusanB

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Matthew 24:48-50
But if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’ 49 and he starts to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, 50 the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, and he will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his place with the hypocrites. There is where his weeping and the gnashing of his teeth will be
However, Luke clarifies there are some who didn’t do the right thing out of ignorance and they will receive a few strokes:

Luke 12:47-48: “Then that slave who understood the will of his master but did not get ready or do what he asked will be beaten with many strokes. But the one who did not understand and yet did things deserving of strokes will be beaten with few. Indeed, everyone to whom much was given, much will be demanded of him, and the one who was put in charge of much will have more than usual demanded of him.”
 

Yupyup_yup

Well-known member
Unfortunaly I feel that the GB is separating the faithful out of the org using this vaccine mandate issue. Like a cult, they want to get rid of anybody who doesn't follow them blindly. Sooooo are "God's people" proving to be on the inside or the outside of that org?


Jeremiah 23:1-40 "Woe to the shepherds who are destroying and scattering the sheep of my pasture!” declares Jehovah...."

Isaiah 30:15 - but you (gb) were not willing.
 

Liz

Active member
I know this is not going to be a popular nor widely accepted method of exit... but if I were you and in your position of relative authority, I would go out with a bang... if you still have speaking privileges, I would wait til your next assigned talk and write two talks, submit one on the topic you are given for review and give another talk full of useful information on the vaccines to the congregation. That way you would not just be getting yourself out quietly but you would have a chance to rouse some other sheep to perhaps follow your lead. Jehovah’s people are being misled and strongly deluded by the GB who appear to be under Satan’s control and influence. If you do choose to go this route, please video record it and share it with the world. The GB wants nothing more than to silence people like us and you make their job very easy when you just submit a letter and slink off in the dark, leaving the rest of your congregation in the dark as well.
I know it is an extreme way to go out but if we keep dropping out silently without a fight then Satan wins on a technicality. Recall how bold Jesus was when he went and spoke to the congregations in the synagogues, often in direct opposition to the Pharisees and their mind control slave grip they had over Jehovah’s people.
Who said the "vaccine is a gift of Jehovah"?
I know some JWs are stupid enough to think the vaccine is a gift of Jehovah as they believe they have been protected from a possibly deadly virus that doesn't exist. Even though we have been taught to make sure of the more important things, to take care of our bodies, and not to smoke and take recreational drugs as these products damage your body. Buy our GB have mandated our elders even when there was no government making our elders in my local area get the "vaccine".
 

Liz

Active member
However, Luke clarifies there are some who didn’t do the right thing out of ignorance and they will receive a few strokes:

Luke 12:47-48: “Then that slave who understood the will of his master but did not get ready or do what he asked will be beaten with many strokes. But the one who did not understand and yet did things deserving of strokes will be beaten with few. Indeed, everyone to whom much was given, much will be demanded of him, and the one who was put in charge of much will have more than usual demanded of him.”
The GB have judgement coming to them due to their atrocious behaviour mandating elders to get the covid-19 fake "vaccines", and not defending us legally to not take vaccine. As these fake "vaccines" are dangerous the GB should be defending us, they choose to do the opposite. Hence Jehovah will hold our GB accountable, as these vaccines have killed and injured many millions of people around the world. :eek:
 
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