The beast's timeline Part 1 : Elite numerology and the 1914 deception

David1982

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Following my previous post about September 23, 2023, I had this feeling that I had stopped halfway in my explanations. I mentioned the elite's timeline along which world events are scripted, but didn't expand on it. It's not an easy topic to deal with, and I'm normally reluctant to expose this kind of information to JWs. I know that people here are open-minded and think for themselves, but sadly that's not the case with "regular" JWs. Whether they realize it or not, they are usually under a very strong groupthink and mind-control spell. They've been trained to self-censor themselves in their pursuit of the truth, and to only consider whatever emanates from "God's Channel".
To me however, it is a central question to those whose hope is in Christ, in these last days, to understand the kind of deceptions that are coming our way. With or without the Watchtower's blessing and authorization, which has made it a taboo to look where we are going to look. And for a very good reason, as these forbidden sources reveal the true origins of their deceptive narrative. Using the elites' numerology, we are going to see how the WT's, "Christ's presence" 1914 timeline, and the NWO's takeover timeline, are one and the same. But first, let's start by summarizing briefly what the coming world government is about.


Annuit Coeptis

According to the Watchtower's end times perspective, as the world descends into the chaos and despair of the great tribulation, Christ will eventually step in. He will trigger the war of Armaggedon and end the rule of evil, forever. Seems simple enough, yet there are a number of things that are not right with that chronology. If Jesus comes at a time mankind is in dire straits, and desperately waiting for a savior, how is it that he said that he comes at an hour no one will be expecting him, not even his followers? With Christ's return would come the hope of peace and order being restored. All humans would be welcoming, not rejecting him. In that case, why would they battle him at Armaggedon? If the post-tribulation world is in disarray, what structure would be powerful enough to wage that war in the first place?

What the study of prophecy and of world's affairs reveals is a very different picture. Satan is preparing an alternative to Christ's rule, a powerful global system described as a wild beast and an eighth king in the book of Revelation, that will subjugate and mesmerize the world with great signs and wonders. As Jesus told Peter, "Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat". This scheme comes as his challenge against Jesus: "Of course all humans are going to follow you if you end hardship and promise them everlasting life. Now, let me impersonate my own depiction of you and offer them all these things, and see if they remain faithful to you".

Humanity's woes find their source in a spiritual disease, man being alienated from God and in a state of imperfection. During his millenial Kingdom, Christ will apply the value of his perfect sacrifice to humble humans willing to follow his leadership. Truth, justice, love, will prevail, allowing humans to heal spiritually, and be reconciled with God, which in turn will make the Earth and all earthly life heal physically as well.
Satan can't offer such spiritual healing, but he can create a world light years better than what we have today. He can throw at us all the toys and wonders at his disposal, including mind-blowing advanced technology, and supernatural "alien" knowledge, similar to what his demons brought to the pre-flood world. He can solve a lot of the damage that his agents are working overtime to create today, for example, unlocking new health and energy paradigms, and reverting ecological damage. That's what his wild beast is about, with a universal new age religion component added into the mix, make-believe justice and peace, preached by "false Christs and false prophets, so as to fool, if possible, even the very elect".

To understand better where we are in the birth process of this new order, let's consider one of its most famous depictions.
The all-seeing eye on top of the pyramid represents Satan's final goal, a world united under luciferian illumination. That illumination could not be unveiled in the primitive world that existed back then in the 1700s, while most everyone was living peacefully in their towns and farms. To make a full impact, it needed to take place in a world that has been previously prepared, indoctrinated into a "one-world" mindset, with advanced lifestyles and technology, and the ability to convey instant propaganda everywhere, through the magic of information networks and screens. This is what the lower stone degrees depict, centuries of required material development, produced by infinite growth schemes of fiat currency printing and endless economic expansion.

Today however, we find ourselves at the point in time where the world's setting that Satan envisioned is almost complete. The perpetual growth mindset, no longer needed, is being replaced by environmental awareness, "sustainable development" and "green" everything. Under the guise of climate change, covid, and now war and energy scarcity, a controlled shutdown of the global economy has been initiated.
Now, instead of the picture on the dollar bill, imagine one that represents our current situation. The project looking anything but finished, with the capstone missing, lots of scaffolding and building material waste everywhere, idle workers fooling around...
Satan can't unveil his new world utopia in today's mess. The success of that advanced world requires an equally advanced citizenry, capable of evolving to a superior, non-materialistic paradigm. A global, traumatic cataclysm, a "cleansing" fire unlike anything in history, will transform the world and "reshape" human population, eliminating those not resilient enough to survive, and refining the rest. The Bible describes this process as the Great Tribulation, "a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then".

While the stone degrees of the pyramid were being built, Satan has misled mankind primarily by removing God out of the picture, corrupting Christianity, and pushing atheism, consumerism and all kinds of degeneracy onto the world. But the final luciferian deception is something else. Its main target are those who weren't corrupted by the previous permissive era, and standing out among those, of course, the great crowd that belongs to Christ, and comes out of the great tribulation. Such an advanced deception cannot be achieved by the current godless system, but requires its meltdown, a seemingly "divine" removal of evildoers, and a spiritual rebirth of mankind.
 

David1982

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Numerology and 911 symbolism

For JWs, there can be no such thing as a timeline that Satan has authority over during these times of "Christ's invisible rule". He's just doing as much harm as he can, "a roaring lion looking for someone to devour", until Jesus intervenes and kicks him into the abyss. But where would the rule of the wild beast take place in that picture? The Watchtower has solved the problem by making everything in the book of Revelation an allegory revolving around themselves, with the United Nations playing the role of a sort-of wild beast.
The truth is, a fair conclusion to the sovereignty challenge demanded that Satan knew a very long time in advance the time he had to prepare his final move. Otherwise, he would be justified to complain, that he could not organize properly, that he could have been successful had he been given more time. Christ's Kingdom (the real one) will be ruled from heaven, and Jesus doesn't have to let his subjects know in advance of any timeline or date. For Satan the situation is very different, his "kingdom" will mostly be an earthly construct, and his human minions have to know the time they have to do their jobs, the targets they have to reach and the schedule they have to follow.

These elites' actions are synchronized globally along a timeline they follow, and its master numbers are on display everywhere, but hiding in plain sight, really accessible only to the initiated and those who can crack their code. This is what I wanted to share with you here. It's very difficult to translate into plain text information that belongs to the non-verbal language of symbols and numbers, but I'll try my best.

Temporal information can be encoded in numbers. The number that defines the stage of the timeline we're at is 911, and we are going to decode it to see why. In luciferian symbolism, everything has a double meaning, one visible, obvious, superficial, for the layman, and one hidden, symbolic, its real nature, for the insiders only. The same applies for numbers. Any number can be encoded into another through a substitution rule or a cipher, to represent something else than its face value. In this case, this "code" is not intended to be beyond human reach, it uses a simple substitution rule of numerology, through prime numbers.
Prime numbers are the real elementary numbers, because unlike composites they are not the product of other numbers but stand on their own, each one with its own "personality" and mathematical characteristics. For instance, 10 is a composite, as it can be decomposed as 2 x 5, but 11 is a prime. 911 is a prime too, the 156th prime number. So that in numerology, 911 is a concealed 156, and these two sides of its nature are intertwined.

The 9/11 events were a symbolic marker indicating the time left to the plan's completion. The number 156 tells us the remaining duration. It happens to be the number of weeks in three Earth years (3 x 52). This indicates three years, but not Earth years, because the timeline is built upon solar symbolism. The 11-factor of the sun's 11-year cycle can be found by compressing the number, something commonly done in numerology: 9+1+1 = 11. Through this multiplier, each 52-week period of the timeline becomes 11 Earth years, and each symbolic week out of the 156, 11 Earth weeks.
In other words, the 911 number contains the encoded information about the timeline's duration and cycles, its solar 11-factor, and most importantly, its starting point, as an actual date, 9/11 (2001). When the world entered this final 33-year timeline, from September 2001 to September 2034, through an "opening ceremony" event watched by about everyone on earth. That's why the 911 number became a symbol of the NWO/beast project and of its assured accomplishment, and was made to appear everywhere prior to 9/11 and after.

Understand that we're not talking here about THE end, as Christ's ending of human rule, taking place in 2034. Only about a point in time at which whatever endeavor these elite people are working on will be completed. Maybe that date will intersect with biblical prophecy, like the start - or end - of the beast's 42 months rule in Revelation 13. Maybe not.

If 911 is the symbolic number of our current stage, 11 is the master number of the whole timeline. So let's see if the prime numbers associated with the following 11 years thresholds reveal similar symbolic information or dates. That would be prime numbers ranked 104 (2 x 52) and 52, which are respectively 569 and 239. The second one is quite fascinating, and will remind you of things we talked about in my previous post. Like for 911, it matches an actual date, but also a month/year couple opening the final 11-year period of the timeline: 23/9/23. The day of the fall equinox, when opposite principles of darkness and light are in balance. Besides, that number can be decomposed as two "complementary" numbers, because 23 is also the 9th prime number.

Like the number 911 became a dark symbol, associated with the evil NWO and the spell of fear and control it unleashed upon the world, I assume the number 239 will become the opposite. A symbol of freedom, hope and rebirth, crystallized by whatever event happens on the "opening of the gates" date, 9/23/23.
 

David1982

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The 1913 timeline

But you must be asking, how does that relate to 1914? The 33-year stretch that started in 2001 is the final one of Satan's project, but the full timeline goes back a long time in the past. As we have seen, the timeline is built upon the number 11. So we need to go back a full solar "zodiac", or 11 x 11 (121) years prior to its end, to see when it started. This brings us to September 1913, which indeed was a pivotal time in modern history. That fall, the Federal Reserve System was created.
It gave full control to the international banking cartel to the money supply of the nation that would become their vessel, the engine of their global domination project: the United States. Now in control of the western world's entire banking and political systems, these people quickly started to carry out the nefarious plans they had intended. Before that first year was out, WW1 had started, ultimately destroying the old rival powers of Europe, and making the US, after WW2, the sole global superpower.

But the story doesn't end there either. Going back further in the past, 121 years before, we get to September 1792. A time of great changes and upheaval as France, the superpower of that time, was in the middle of its revolution. To symbolize that a new world had begun, a new revolutionary calendar was introduced. The monarchy was abolished on September 21, and the next day, September 22, 1792 (the day of the equinox that year) became the first day of the new calendar:
A few months later in January, the king Louis XVI was decapitated, sending shockwaves of horror accross all european monarchies. The new overlords were not joking around. Over time, monarchies and nobility everywhere started to be replaced by absolute freemason/bankers rule, aka "constitutional republics".

What I want to help you realize with this information, is that these periods of power shifts and upheaval don't happen at random, they are made to happen by hidden powers, secret societies channelling demonic knowledge and instructions. These events are all scripted, and take place along a mathemagical chronology that these beings and their minions revere. That remains true going back a long time in the past. Now, if we only go as far back as 1913, we can build the following table to summarize the ongoing countdown:

Year​
Number of years elapsed​
Number of years remaining​
Number of symbolic solar "weeks" remaining
(x11 for real duration in Earth weeks)​
Prime number encoding
the time remaining​
Super magical date
"Opening of the gates"​
1913​
0​
121​
572​
4157​
1924​
11​
110​
520​
3727​
1935​
22​
99​
468​
3323​
1946​
33​
88​
416​
2861​
1957​
44​
77​
364​
2459​
1968​
55​
66​
312​
2069​
1979​
66​
55​
260​
1657​
1990​
77​
44​
208​
1123​
2001
88
33
156
911
9/11/01
2012​
99​
22​
104​
569​
2023
110
11
52
239
23/9/23
2034​
121​
0​
0​

It's interesting to note that both these magical dates had a symbolic "announcement" 11 years before to the day. On 09/11/90, president George H. W. Bush announced in a speech America's pursuit of a "New World Order". This was an american announcement for an american event, 9/11.
The coming event will likely be a global one, and like I mentioned in my previous post, it was announced by a global kabbalistic event on 09/23/12, a worldwide Jewish prayer for the return of the Messiah.

 

David1982

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The Watchtower's 1914 deception and the future

It is already puzzling to see how the start of this timeline is eerily similar to the one pushed by the WT. But the story gets weirder. I don't know if it ever appeared in WT publications, but I've already heard brothers mention that the end has to happen in 2034, even September 2034, as it matches September 1914 + the 120 years mentioned in Genesis 6:3. Our present day end times being, as Jesus said, "like in the days of Noah".
The 1914 narrative was made believable by the world-changing events that actually started to unfold then. The Watchtower was right: in 1913/14, the world entered a new era. An extremely powerful spiritual being acted decisively towards his full dominance over the human realm. The only problem is that it was never Christ, but Satan...

So the following questions arise: who really devised the WT 1914 chronology? Why is it so similar to the NWO's timeline above? Did it originate from the same secret societies, these organizations that the WT has never mentioned in 140+ years of publishing?
Trying to wrap your mind around this incredible deception that Satan has created, and looking at the WT's purposely misleading picture of end times events, a very disturbing picture emerges. It's as if the Watchtower has always been subtly programming JWs, to welcome Satan's great deception as Christ's Kingdom. Why they have completely erased from their doctrine notions familiar to many other churches, like a great deception, an antichrist, or the mark of the beast.

They can't fix the 1914 "mistake", because it's not a mistake, but a willful deception, and it's still ongoing.

The Watchtower's "Christ's presence" 1914 timeline IS the beast's takeover timeline.

Now let's have a look at the future, and think where this could be going. The WT has been repeating over and over which events will precede (in their view) the GT. A peculiar announcement of peace and security, and the UN turning against organized religion. Despite their deceptive prophetic perspective, what if they were right? What if that information was channeled to them by a very well informed source, the same that created the 1914 timeline? Not only would their prophetic perspective be vindicated, but their authority and power of mind-control over those under their spell would become stronger than ever. If "Babylon the Great" is destroyed and biblical prophecy has "ended", then the new world that emerges after the GT must be from Christ, right?

The new universal religion will "fulfill" the expectations created by today's false religions and entertainment. Christians will get their second coming of "Christ", Jews the return of the Messiah, Muslims the appearance of the Mahdi, and other faiths like Buddhism or Hinduism will be fine with this new supernatural source of wisdom and peace. Everyone will be in awe with the advanced knowledge and superhuman abilities displayed. It will feel like being in a science-fiction or superhero blockbuster movie, but in real life.
The Vatican and the rest of today's organized religion are not needed in that picture. I personally think that no organization that endorsed the covidian cult and the injections will survive the coming years, and that includes the Vatican and the Watchtower. Today's outdated materialistic creed, and its gatekeepers holding mankind back, politicians, big pharma "doctors", big business management, media figures, celebrities, religious leaders, law enforcement, etc., have all been compromised by the ongoing vaccination genocide. This is a part of the reset, to ensure that infuriated people eventually remove them and the worldview they stood for, clearing the way for brand new power structure and belief system.

Satan always looks to first and foremost corrupt what has been set apart to belong to Jehovah. In my view, JWs are a "nation" separated and consecrated to God, like the ancient Israel was, or Levites within Israel. They don't make up all those who belong to Christ, but were set apart to be at the forefront, to offer in these last days the purest form of worship to Jehovah. Despite the apostasy of the WT, growing from the beginning, there were still many sincere brothers and sisters within that nation, offering a regular and acceptable sacrifice to God. That was all suddenly stopped.

This brings us back to Daniel's 1290 days topic that I mentioned in my previous post. Now you probably understand better what I meant when I said that 9/23/23 was a very familiar date to me, and that I expected some symbolic event linked to the appearance of the new beast to happen on that day. What were the odds, that the rollout of global lockdown policies, and the stopping of the "regular sacrifice" by the Watchtower, would happen exactly 1290 days before that date?

The Bible doesn't give us a timeline to Christ's return. But it provides a few clues, temporal markers, like Daniel's 1290 days, to help us recognize prophetic events and act upon them. In that case, the "disgusting thing" being established, and the instruction, when we see it "standing in a holy place", to leave the apostate "Jerusalem". Though we'll only know what it all means when we get there, there was enough uncanny evidence around 9/23/23 to deserve a mile-long post or two :)

Looking back sometimes at what we were taught by the Watchtower regarding prophecy, I smile at the total nonsense of it all and think: "What were we thinking?" lol. But then I remember that my outlook on prophecy was very different just 3 years ago. We all had to start at some point, and grow in our understanding, through trials and grief sometimes. The spiritual beings behind this global conspiracy were already there in 1913, in 1792, and before. They were masterminding today's events long before any of us was born. While we humans are only here for a short time, and the amount of knowledge we can acquire in the meantime is very limited.

As much as we would all love to see Jesus intervene tomorrow and end this crazy world, that's not what is in store. Satan will first take his place and appear as an angel of light, Lucifer, to mislead humans. He will end the madness and hardship that his evil alter ego Satan has created. Evil rulers and their matrix of total enslavement will fail, and a new world will emerge. "A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries, a world where anything is possible", the "System 239", the eighth king.



Because all these numerological explanations are quite abstract, in part 2 we'll make the numbers above come to life, considering a few examples of predictive programming where they appear prominently, like this one from The Matrix, and what world-changing events are announced through them.

Thank you for reading.
 

Carl

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Satan is preparing an alternative to Christ's rule, a powerful global system described as a wild beast and an eighth king in the book of Revelation, that will subjugate and mesmerize the world with great signs and wonders.
I agree 100%
He can throw at us all the toys and wonders at his disposal, including mind-blowing advanced technology, and supernatural "alien" knowledge, similar to what his demons brought to the pre-flood world.
I've been thinking this will occur during the HOT myself.
That's what his wild beast is about, with a universal new age religion component added into the mix, make-believe justice and peace, preached by "false Christs and false prophets, so as to fool, if possible, even the very elect".
I believe this will trick the GB into declaring the HOT as the beginning of the 1,000 Kingdom.
whatever event happens on the "opening of the gates" date, 9/23/23.
I guess we'll see in 55 days, but I'm no fan of predicting dates myself. As for numerology, I'm not sure about it one way or the other, but I know a lot of Satan's minions believe in it, so IMHO it's wise to understand what they're saying and doing if we want to avoid their traps.
It's as if the Watchtower has always been subtly programming JWs, to welcome Satan's great deception as Christ's Kingdom.
I agree with this hypothesis. CTR was most likely a 33rd degree Freemason. Whether or not he created the Watchtower to deceive Jehovah's people or to shepherd them is not for me to conclude. If he was a satanic agent meant to corral and mislead Jehovah's sheep, his plans have worked and failed, as the WT led me and many others to the Truth, but it's also deceived millions. Maybe this was Jehovah's plan all along, to test our love of the Truth? After all, didn't the Jewish Temple arrangement always have both righteous and unrighteous truth believers?
The Vatican and the rest of today's organized religion are not needed in that picture. I personally think that no organization that endorsed the covidian cult and the injections will survive the coming years, and that includes the Vatican and the Watchtower. Today's outdated materialistic creed, and its gatekeepers holding mankind back, politicians, big pharma "doctors", big business management, media figures, celebrities, religious leaders, law enforcement, etc., have all been compromised by the ongoing vaccination genocide. This is a part of the reset, to ensure that infuriated people eventually remove them and the worldview they stood for, clearing the way for brand new power structure and belief system.
This could explain the over the top actions and lies pushed by the power structure over COVID. I must admit I would enjoy seeing those behind these lies go down, but I won't take their side against Jehovah and Jesus though. It could be that Satan will offer a cure to the COVID vax damage in exchange for taking the MOTB. This would explain their almost panicked push for everyone to take it. It also explains why they've allowed us to see all their lies. Satan could have easily shut down all alternative media, but he's allowed controlled opposition to leak out information.
They don't make up all those who belong to Christ, but were set apart to be at the forefront, to offer in these last days the purest form of worship to Jehovah.
I agree
The Bible doesn't give us a timeline to Christ's return. But it provides a few clues, temporal markers, like Daniel's 1290 days, to help us recognize prophetic events and act upon them. In that case, the "disgusting thing" being established, and the instruction, when we see it "standing in a holy place", to leave the apostate "Jerusalem". Though we'll only know what it all means when we get there, there was enough uncanny evidence around 9/23/23 to deserve a mile-long post or two :)
Glad you mentioned this, because we all know that no one knows the date he will return, not even him... only Jehovah. BUT, we were given information about the signs to look for indicating his return was near. Again, we'll see if your research is correct in about 55 days. Thanks for the work though, it was interesting to read... and it stimulated me to look into what you've written.
As much as we would all love to see Jesus intervene tomorrow and end this crazy world, that's not what is in store. Satan will first take his place and appear as an angel of light, Lucifer, to mislead humans. He will end the madness and hardship that his evil alter ego Satan has created. Evil rulers and their matrix of total enslavement will fail, and a new world will emerge. "A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries, a world where anything is possible", the "System 239", the eighth king.
Many claim the name Lucifer was incorrectly inserted into the Bible, but I believe it was put there by Satan as part of his plan. Sir Isaac Newton was reportedly a 33rd degree Freemason. He had the KJB for over a year, as he was tasked with proof reading it, so I believe it's possible he inserted a few changes as directed by Satan.
 

David1982

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I guess we'll see in 55 days, but I'm no fan of predicting dates myself. As for numerology, I'm not sure about it one way or the other, but I know a lot of Satan's minions believe in it, so IMHO it's wise to understand what they're saying and doing if we want to avoid their traps.

Thank you for your reply Carl. Not 55 days, this is next year, 60 weeks from today ;)

Because the elites are in love with their numbers and dates, that was a large part of this post. But we will not go from everything fine and suddenly wake up that day and something crazy happens. The western world's collapse that will lead to the planned turnaround is already happening and will only accelerate. That date just seems to be a very symbolic threshold, and I tried to explain the numerological reasons, the belief system of the elites that explains why. I don't plan to sell everything and run for the hills before that date though :)

If he was a satanic agent meant to corral and mislead Jehovah's sheep, his plans have worked and failed, as the WT led me and many others to the Truth, but it's also deceived millions. Maybe this was Jehovah's plan all along, to test our love of the Truth? After all, didn't the Jewish Temple arrangement always have both righteous and unrighteous truth believers?

I see it as Jesus explained, both groups would be allowed to grow together until the time of the harvest. It seems that day is getting nearer, and everyone will have to show where their loyalty is, following men and the group, or following Jehovah, and stand for the truth whatever it takes. A difficult predicament that the WT has definitely never prepared us to face...
 

Carl

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The problem with the elite's supposed plan and their timeline is that even if such exists the world is subject to God's timeline. And no one knows the day and hour, not the angels, not even the Son and certainly not the Devil or any of his crew.
I agree, no one but Jehovah knows the time Jesus returns... but that doesn't mean Satan isn't allowed a timeline to trick Jehovah's people. The difference being he had to provide one that the spiritually discerning eye could see, unlike Jehovah's which is unknown. Satan used a timeline of sorts for the 1914 operation of error, which you and others have been able to see, while so many of Jehovah's people can not. I believe he was also behind the 1975 scam as well, which undoubtedly stumbled many sheep. I believe Satan's main goal is to trick Jehovah's people into taking his mark, since he already has the majority of the world under his spell. What better way than to fake the return of Christ and the beginning of the Kingdom?

As for numerology, we know Jehovah doesn't allow Satan to call the shots, but Satan's minions sure do believe he does, which may mean Jehovah is allowing Satan some leeway here. In order to test our love of the Truth, Jehovah may be allowing Satan more room than any of us can imagine. Maybe this is what Jesus meant when he talked about the master delaying? Either way I'm not going to focus on dates, but rather what I see in front of me. What I see is that the black hat NWO crowd seems desperate, which to me means they're being pushed by Satan. If Satan is desperate that would mean he's been kicked out of Heaven, but you and I both agree this isn't the case... correct? I certainly don't want to assume I know your mind in this matter. If the GB is being deceived, as Jesus warned would occur, then what if "Lucifer" convinces them he's Jehovah? His so called apostles of light could be convincing the "white hats" to sit back and allow the "black hats" to kick off the GT. Then they ride to the rescue with advanced tech, cures and maybe even new scrolls creating the one world religion doctrines?

I'm girding myself for the long haul, while hoping the GT and HOT are much sooner then later. Hopefully the Kingdom is here by 2030... but we must be prepared for the distant possibility that it won't arrive until later then we can imagine. I'm very tired of living as if the end is tomorrow, which is something Satan wants us to feel. I'm doing everything I can to rid my life of all things Jehovah hates so that Satan won't be able to trick me. I place my complete faith in Jehovah and Jesus, but even in that I will test what I feel they're telling me to do, in order to make sure it comes from them and not some imposter. I'm preparing for the greatest deception imaginable, while hoping it's an easily identifiable con game. Basically I'm preparing for a fake GT as inconceivable as that may sound.
 

BagdadBill

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Can you support that? What did they bring?

Also I think you give Satan way too much credit for following a timeline. Jehovah is the one who will bend Satan to his will, not the other way around.

ETA: RK beat me to the last point by seconds.
The house takes all pushes.
 

Truthseeker

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I agree, no one but Jehovah knows the time Jesus returns... but that doesn't mean Satan isn't allowed a timeline to trick Jehovah's people. The difference being he had to provide one that the spiritually discerning eye could see, unlike Jehovah's which is unknown. Satan used a timeline of sorts for the 1914 operation of error, which you and others have been able to see, while so many of Jehovah's people can not. I believe he was also behind the 1975 scam as well, which undoubtedly stumbled many sheep. I believe Satan's main goal is to trick Jehovah's people into taking his mark, since he already has the majority of the world under his spell. What better way than to fake the return of Christ and the beginning of the Kingdom?

As for numerology, we know Jehovah doesn't allow Satan to call the shots, but Satan's minions sure do believe he does, which may mean Jehovah is allowing Satan some leeway here. In order to test our love of the Truth, Jehovah may be allowing Satan more room than any of us can imagine. Maybe this is what Jesus meant when he talked about the master delaying? Either way I'm not going to focus on dates, but rather what I see in front of me. What I see is that the black hat NWO crowd seems desperate, which to me means they're being pushed by Satan. If Satan is desperate that would mean he's been kicked out of Heaven, but you and I both agree this isn't the case... correct? I certainly don't want to assume I know your mind in this matter. If the GB is being deceived, as Jesus warned would occur, then what if "Lucifer" convinces them he's Jehovah? His so called apostles of light could be convincing the "white hats" to sit back and allow the "black hats" to kick off the GT. Then they ride to the rescue with advanced tech, cures and maybe even new scrolls creating the one world religion doctrines?

I'm girding myself for the long haul, while hoping the GT and HOT are much sooner then later. Hopefully the Kingdom is here by 2030... but we must be prepared for the distant possibility that it won't arrive until later then we can imagine. I'm very tired of living as if the end is tomorrow, which is something Satan wants us to feel. I'm doing everything I can to rid my life of all things Jehovah hates so that Satan won't be able to trick me. I place my complete faith in Jehovah and Jesus, but even in that I will test what I feel they're telling me to do, in order to make sure it comes from them and not some imposter. I'm preparing for the greatest deception imaginable, while hoping it's an easily identifiable con game. Basically I'm preparing for a fake GT as inconceivable as that may sound.
"I'm doing everything I can to rid my life of all things Jehovah hates so that Satan won't be able to trick me."
What things should we be getting rid of Carl? Are you talking about material things or ...?
 

coinlady

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I thought according to the UN 2030 Agenda that the worlds population has to be 500 million by 2030. It's obvious that the powers that be are in a panic to establish the NWO. Very interesting about the 1914 connection. I agree with Robert Satan's time line does not effect Jehovah's timeline. One thing is for sure....everything is in focus now...Satan's plan and Bible prophecy are lining up
 

Carl

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What things should we be getting rid of Carl? Are you talking about material things or ...?
I’ll list what I’ve isolated in myself and where I’m at with controlling it:
1. Lust- finally under control. I can look at beautiful women and not have any intrusive thoughts. Before I would have lustful thoughts and needed to consciously flush them out… whereas now I don’t even have those thoughts anymore, which is a pleasant change.
2. Patience- mostly under control. I was just in a debate with my son who isn’t where I am faith wise. Instead losing my patience, I was able to accept his views when they challenged mine. Even though I know the Truth… I realize everyone around me doesn’t.
3. Temper control- my sons challenge my temper unconsciously as do other family members. Knowing Satan uses them to provoke me helps me stay calm and not allow myself to be triggered.
4. Appetite control- I’m getting there! Lol
 

Truthseeker

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I agree, no one but Jehovah knows the time Jesus returns... but that doesn't mean Satan isn't allowed a timeline to trick Jehovah's people. The difference being he had to provide one that the spiritually discerning eye could see, unlike Jehovah's which is unknown. Satan used a timeline of sorts for the 1914 operation of error, which you and others have been able to see, while so many of Jehovah's people can not. I believe he was also behind the 1975 scam as well, which undoubtedly stumbled many sheep. I believe Satan's main goal is to trick Jehovah's people into taking his mark, since he already has the majority of the world under his spell. What better way than to fake the return of Christ and the beginning of the Kingdom?

As for numerology, we know Jehovah doesn't allow Satan to call the shots, but Satan's minions sure do believe he does, which may mean Jehovah is allowing Satan some leeway here. In order to test our love of the Truth, Jehovah may be allowing Satan more room than any of us can imagine. Maybe this is what Jesus meant when he talked about the master delaying? Either way I'm not going to focus on dates, but rather what I see in front of me. What I see is that the black hat NWO crowd seems desperate, which to me means they're being pushed by Satan. If Satan is desperate that would mean he's been kicked out of Heaven, but you and I both agree this isn't the case... correct? I certainly don't want to assume I know your mind in this matter. If the GB is being deceived, as Jesus warned would occur, then what if "Lucifer" convinces them he's Jehovah? His so called apostles of light could be convincing the "white hats" to sit back and allow the "black hats" to kick off the GT. Then they ride to the rescue with advanced tech, cures and maybe even new scrolls creating the one world religion doctrines?

I'm girding myself for the long haul, while hoping the GT and HOT are much sooner then later. Hopefully the Kingdom is here by 2030... but we must be prepared for the distant possibility that it won't arrive until later then we can imagine. I'm very tired of living as if the end is tomorrow, which is something Satan wants us to feel. I'm doing everything I can to rid my life of all things Jehovah hates so that Satan won't be able to trick me. I place my complete faith in Jehovah and Jesus, but even in that I will test what I feel they're telling me to do, in order to make sure it comes from them and not some imposter. I'm preparing for the greatest deception imaginable, while hoping it's an easily identifiable con game. Basically I'm preparing for a fake GT as inconceivable as that may sound.
What I don't understand is WHY Jehovah would allow Satan to deceive his people? If it is a true deception, it isn't really fair is it? I knew about the jab & saw how others were clearly deceived into taking it. When it comes to The mark of the beast...I truly hope that I am again discerning enough to know better! I am continually praying that we won't be deceived but know clearly what the choices are.
 

Truthseeker

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I’ll list what I’ve isolated in myself and where I’m at with controlling it:
1. Lust- finally under control. I can look at beautiful women and not have any intrusive thoughts. Before I would have lustful thoughts and needed to consciously flush them out… whereas now I don’t even have those thoughts anymore, which is a pleasant change.
2. Patience- mostly under control. I was just in a debate with my son who isn’t where I am faith wise. Instead losing my patience, I was able to accept his views when they challenged mine. Even though I know the Truth… I realize everyone around me doesn’t.
3. Temper control- my sons challenge my temper unconsciously as do other family members. Knowing Satan uses them to provoke me helps me stay calm and not allow myself to be triggered.
4. Appetite control- I’m getting there! Lol
I get it. I admire you. You are very brave to list your weaknesses or past weaknesses. You sound like a very humble man.
I too REALLY need to work on Patience! It's funny I was just reading about a teaspoon of raw mustard seeds controlling appetite. So, there you go! (I Haven't tried it yet tho).
 
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