The beast's timeline Part 1 : Elite numerology and the 1914 deception

David1982

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Indeed, but why? My feeling is, the demons had so corrupted mankind, and "taken wives for themselves, namely all whom they chose," that there wasn't anyone left that the demons didn't control or had bred out! I think the theory that the Nephlim could not bread is also in error.
These topics always end up in discussions about the pre-flood world :)
So many breathtaking remains and so little said in the Bible, it fires up our imagination.

Honestly, I hope David1982 is wrong about his conclusions, because being right means we have up to 12 more years until Paradise begins. That said, Jesus promised that Jehovah will have to cut things short, which to me means Satan's timeline gets cut due to the destruction it's bringing once it starts to affect Jehovah's people. So I imagine the truth lies somewhere in the middle of David's calculations and our expectations of the end coming sooner rather than later... but we must gird ourselves for the possibility it's later.
Well, it's not really my calculations, it's more like noticing a pattern, through the numbers the elites push forward and dates of past historical events. I guess when you've been making a living for 20 years juggling with numbers and algorithms, there are things you notice that the average person will not. Hence the analogy with Neo, who is a hacker and can see through the Matrix :)

As for the 12 years, again that's what their numbers seem to suggest as the time remaining to the conclusion of their timeline. Now will it be completed or cut short, and when does the real end happen in relation to it, I have no idea.

So with that being out of the way, I do want to state that I find this very interesting. We seem to be stuck in some way of thinking and posts like these make you step out of your comfort zone and look at things differently, for that I am thankful. Paul encouraged us to “Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine.”
I assume that everyone here is familiar with the Bible, the WT doctrine, and who Jehovah and Jesus are. My goal is to be thought provoking, to make everyone think outside of the frame laid out by the WT. To focus on the holes they have left in their doctrine, and encourage everyone to make sense of why.
The coming rule of the wild beast, the "false Christs and false prophets" Jesus warned about, should be topics familiar and well understood by JWs. Why is it not the case?
 

Sunshower

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The coming rule of the wild beast, the "false Christs and false prophets" Jesus warned about, should be topics familiar and well understood by JWs. Why is it not the case?
Well, as my husband and I witnessed this week “live in our living room” it seems that JWs aren’t that familiar with the scriptures. Just the regular ones that you hear repeated over and over again at the meetings. And even then they don’t know the meaning of them. When you state something that WT doesn’t support they cry out “Jehovah would never allow that” without even giving it a moment’s thought. Their faith is not based on facts or knowledge, it’s based on feelings. And their responses are one-liners the GB told them, not well thought out answers.

Look at the articles on jw.org, it’s all about the woke problems of the world. Not the actual problems the world is facing and certainly nothing to do with the point in time the Bible tells us where we are.

The wild beast, the false prophets or the second coming of Christ couldn’t be further from their minds cause WT has deluded them that it has already taken place.

They are waiting for the angels to wrap their arms around them to protect them from the “baddies” at Armageddon. It’s really sad.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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The issue I have with your conclusion here is the Bible does indeed use numerology of sorts, Daniel's timelines and those of Revelation come to mind. So IMHO, Jehovah placed them there for the spiritually discerning mind to decipher. I have to admit they are confusing. I enjoy discussing them with an open mind, such as this discussion, so long as things don't get heated. It's all conjecture at this point. Honestly, I hope David1982 is wrong about his conclusions, because being right means we have up to 12 more years until Paradise begins. That said, Jesus promised that Jehovah will have to cut things short, which to me means Satan's timeline gets cut due to the destruction it's bringing once it starts to affect Jehovah's people. So I imagine the truth lies somewhere in the middle of David's calculations and our expectations of the end coming sooner rather than later... but we must gird ourselves for the possibility it's later.

The fact that Jesus said most won't notice the "days of Noah," makes me pause and rethink what that could mean. His statement about the pre-parousia world being like Sodom makes me think his arrival is imminent due to today's LGBTQ focused world. Also, his words about only Jehovah knowing the time the parousia begins makes me rethink any discussions about numerology, but I can't totally dismiss all talk of timelines completely due to the Biblical timelines placed in the Bible by Jehovah Himself, as well as Satan's minions use of numerology being well documented. As long as we discuss these topics with humility, meekness and love, then I will continue to enjoy participating. David1982 put a lot of work into his post, so I appreciate that, as well as all the comments pro and con. This site is meant for building us up, not just venting about COVID and the evils of Satan's system.
I agree with what you say Carl, especially the bit about covid etc. I hope you don’t think I’m rubbishing what David 1982 said. I appreciate the work he put into it of course, but I do feel that the bible is somewhat plain in its advice about what is worthwhile and what is not. It seems that speculation related with authority is something of a snare, though it is natural for us all. Evidencing an opinion with a film as support; though it is not without some credence given that there is a degree of mockery by the deep state in such offerings, but using them to support biblical prophesy somewhat detracts from, rather than contributes to the message, don’t you think? It just reminds me of the latest watchtower dramas with their somewhat strange references to the bible. Be that as it may, I do tend think in black and white and worse, wonder why others do not. It’s a fault. If the bible says that no one knows the day and the hour, except Jehovah, I tend to think that as final. The bible says that the days will be cut short, but as they have not really begun, we cannot speculate on when they will be cut short. It may have something to do with human degradation as you say, but it seems to me that if the tribulation it is going to be war, homosexuality would be way down the list of people’s concerns. If no one will survive unless those times are cut short it indicates quite a significant issue if it requires Jehovah to intervene - that rather discounts in my opinion, a bunch of gays flouncing down the road in women’s underwear.

Jehovah has put times-lines in the bible, it’s true, but the fact that He has not chosen to do so in terms of the times of the end, appears of significance. In their stead, we are given signs. If Satan has put a timeline into the bible, I have no knowledge of that so cannot comment, but what I have understood is that the time of the end comes as a thief. If Satan has anything to do with time-lines, it is hardly something I would want to put any effort in to understanding as their goal is to kill followers of Christ. I have enough to do trying to get myself in order. My faith is very simple. I do not complicate it with speculation other than to remark about what is significant to everyone on occasion - assuming of course if anyone is interested in what I have to say. Numeration is not one of my concerns - those that were of interest, have long since past. i said to David that physics is far more important than mathematical timelines as they obeys laws set by Jehovah. Interpretation of dates etc, can be manipulated. Laws cannot be used to lie or mislead or be manipulated. There does appear to be some reference in the scripture to the laws of physics being employed or, that such will be evidenced by the wars of man, as for instance, the elements being intensely hot.

I am not sure that I can support the thinking that Jehovah would put numerology into the bible for the scripturally minded to decipher. The invitation is not to the mathematically gifted, or to the intelligent, but to the discerning as you point out. Discerning of what, then, is the question. There is no need to speculate on that because the bible is clear in that it has everything to do with the reflection of the attributes of the spirit, to learn about and emulate the attributes and in doing so, build faith and insight into those values. Yes, the site is about building up, but how does this include speculation in numerology when we know, for certain, that no one knows the day, nor the hour, only the Father? Pointing out conditions is helpful I agree, but to look for answers through numbers? I left that with watchtower who like divination to keep the flock bound. How one can not learn from that lesson is an anomaly to me.
 

Carl

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I am not sure that I can support the thinking that Jehovah would put numerology into the bible for the scripturally minded to decipher.
What's your opinion on Daniel's 1,290 and 1,335 days, and Revelation's "time, times and half a time?" Jehovah didn't put a timeline in for us to figure out the beginning of Jesus taking the throne, which would have gone against what Jesus said about nobody knowing the time. JWs have been burned by the 1914 fraudulent numerology, so I completely understand any reluctance at deciphering dates via numerology. I guess my take on David's work is that he's saying Satan is doing it outside of the Bible or by twisting the Bible. I'm trying to figure out what Satan's NWO timeline could be? And did he give clues to his minions? I wouldn't advocate Astrology, but if I knew Satan made plans based on the sun, moon and stars I would like to know what they are so I could avoid falling for his lies. But that's a slippery slope there.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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What's your opinion on Daniel's 1,290 and 1,335 days, and Revelation's "time, times and half a time?" Jehovah didn't put a timeline in for us to figure out the beginning of Jesus taking the throne, which would have gone against what Jesus said about nobody knowing the time. JWs have been burned by the 1914 fraudulent numerology, so I completely understand any reluctance at deciphering dates via numerology. I guess my take on David's work is that he's saying Satan is doing it outside of the Bible or by twisting the Bible. I'm trying to figure out what Satan's NWO timeline could be? And did he give clues to his minions? I wouldn't advocate Astrology, but if I knew Satan made plans based on the sun, moon and stars I would like to know what they are so I could avoid falling for his lies. But that's a slippery slope there.
I don’t wish to appear evasive, but I have no idea what Daniel‘s ‘days’ and Revelation’s ‘times, times and half a time’ refer to. I know what people have said what the ‘days’ are, and as Robert has proved himself to be reliable, I take to heart his explanation. Whether that is different to watchtower or not I don’t know because I can’t recall watchtower‘s explanation. I think as a rule, without judging in any way, anyone else’s opinion, that no one can be a hundred percent certain either, because the term is mercurial depending on the time allotted to it. E.g., the ‘days‘ of creation and the ‘days’ of Daniel‘s prophesy. A reasonable explanation has been proffered, and it has been filed in my mind as a reference, but that is all. Continuity is the key to establishing truth and I will be happy for all if it works out in the usual “told you so, didn’t I” after the event.

In the end analysis, prophesy delivers itself and it’s value when it does, especially in terms of faith is immeasurable, such as the birth of Christ. But he was identified because of the prophesy. He was the fulfilment, and for those watching, they could check the facts in retrospect and at that point only, is the truth evident. For me, that is where faith is found. It is not how, but when it is fulfilled, and that is when faith is fulfilled. We have pointers. Essentially, that is how I view prophesy, a guide, rather in much the same way when Jesus said “when you see ALL these things occur”. That is enough for me, not because I am a paragon of virtue, but because it is a simple act of faith to wait, because for faith to be of value, it has to be tested and for me at least, there is a dividing line between knowing and trust. I don’t want to believe because it’s a numerical fact, or because there is no food and I’m hungry. I want to believe because I want to believe in Jehovah, for what He is and that when He manifests Himself, to be there because I believed, not because I had worked out somehow, that he was coming at such and such an hour and altered my behaviour appropriately. He is not fooled. That would add an extra burden to faith in that if you know when a person is calling, you can dress for the occasion, mentally, physically and morally. I would rather use not knowing, but expecting, as a driver to building faith. I used to wait for my father to come home. Not because he was coming home, but to be there when he did because I wanted him home. Maybe I am simplistic.
 

The God Pill

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Indeed, but why? My feeling is, the demons had so corrupted mankind, and "taken wives for themselves, namely all whom they chose," that there wasn't anyone left that the demons didn't control or had bred out! I think the theory that the Nephlim could not bread is also in error. I think the real reason Noah, his sons and their wives were the only ones to make it on to the ark, is they were the only ones left that were not hybrid sons and daughters of demons., with the exception of those who were left that the demons allowed to live who worshiped them. Only by means of Jehovah protection did they survive. Not just by means of the flood, but certainly Jehovah had to protect them from the demons living in the flesh as "demi-gods" and indeed they were.
Yep on multiple generations the hybrids weren't sterile witnesses used to ask me all the time are Neanderthals nephilim I would often deny that possibility because they don't adequately contrast from modern man for that to be logical but when one has the context of three generations of hybrids while neanderthals were probably normal humans it's not inconceivable they were a line of elioud/eljo the 1/8 angel generation. Non sterile hybrids would make near eastern myths with demigods like gilgamesh make more sense where you read bizarre ratios like 2/3 God and 1/3 man etc.
 
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Sunshower

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Can we get a chart of these acronyms? I am having a hard time figuring them out and since I’m old, I forget. Seems like everything is abbreviated these days
I was thinking of doing that cause it’s hard for me as a foreigner. I shall start a new thread so people can add to it.
 

David1982

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I have enough to do trying to get myself in order. My faith is very simple. I do not complicate it with speculation other than to remark about what is significant to everyone on occasion - assuming of course if anyone is interested in what I have to say.
We're all different. If this topic disturbs you, maybe it's better to ignore it and focus on other things. Like I said, I tried my best but it's very hard to translate the language of numbers into text, and you may have got lost in my explanations.

The countdown I presented has nothing to do with the Bible, and I thought it was important to mention it because of how similar it is to the WT's 1914-centric prophetic interpretation. What will happen in the future of that timeline, I don't know, maybe it will fizzle out, but more likely it will end in a FAKE END and the great deception.

As I understand it, Daniel's 1290 days are a prophetic marker, not of the end, but of the start of the events described in Daniel 11 final verses and 12. Daniel 11:35 indicates that even after "the disgusting thing that causes desolation" has been put in place (11:31) "the time of the end (...) is yet for the time appointed".
That prophetic marker is defined by two events that are both engineered by Satan's system, not by Jehovah: the stopping of the regular sacrifice and the disgusting thing being established. I noticed how 1290 days was the duration between the stopping of global public worship and a very symbolic date cherished by Satan's team, and I presented the fact to everyone's scrutiny.

I'm just bringing these facts to everybody's attention because I'm convinced that the Watchtower's and masonic end times perspectives are one and the same, and it's very disturbing where this is leading. As for when THE end will happen exactly, as the real Christ ending Satan's world at Armageddon, I don't know and I have never tried knowing.
 

w_stone

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What I have a question about is Has the constant feature been taken away?Some think that is a future date Some think it has happen with the Preaching work being Stopped
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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Don’t worry Barn, you’re good. Daniel discusses 1,290 and 1,335 days as having significance during the final days. I still can’t figure out what they mean though. In Revelation we learn time, times and half a time equals 3 & 1/2 years. That’s what I was talking about.
You have reminded me of my days at school where the teacher would ask such questions; “You boy! What does X + Y - B squared equal and what is its tangent?” followed by the wooden blackboard duster hurled across the room at me, with the expletive of “idiot boy”. The school also had a book filled with numbers which I was told were “logarithms“ and which I was required to learn. I recall in in my final year at school, I scored 2% for maths. I got one question right by guesswork, and also put my name at the top of the paper. The mark may have been for that, rather than the question I answered. Not sure really. I have every sympathy for those with dyslexia.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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We're all different. If this topic disturbs you, maybe it's better to ignore it and focus on other things. Like I said, I tried my best but it's very hard to translate the language of numbers into text, and you may have got lost in my explanations.

The countdown I presented has nothing to do with the Bible, and I thought it was important to mention it because of how similar it is to the WT's 1914-centric prophetic interpretation. What will happen in the future of that timeline, I don't know, maybe it will fizzle out, but more likely it will end in a FAKE END and the great deception.

As I understand it, Daniel's 1290 days are a prophetic marker, not of the end, but of the start of the events described in Daniel 11 final verses and 12. Daniel 11:35 indicates that even after "the disgusting thing that causes desolation" has been put in place (11:31) "the time of the end (...) is yet for the time appointed".
That prophetic marker is defined by two events that are both engineered by Satan's system, not by Jehovah: the stopping of the regular sacrifice and the disgusting thing being established. I noticed how 1290 days was the duration between the stopping of global public worship and a very symbolic date cherished by Satan's team, and I presented the fact to everyone's scrutiny.

I'm just bringing these facts to everybody's attention because I'm convinced that the Watchtower's and masonic end times perspectives are one and the same, and it's very disturbing where this is leading. As for when THE end will happen exactly, as the real Christ ending Satan's world at Armageddon, I don't know and I have never tried knowing.
Your topic does not disturb me in the least. Why would arguing truth be disturbing? I don’t understand. I simply question the validity of the calculations you use to support your argument, not least using a Hollywood film plot to support your findings. I do not doubt your sincerity in the least, just your reference material. As I explained to Carl, we cannot know for certain because the information to the end day is not revealed to us, all the more so as no one could possibly know Jehovah’s mind as to when and why the day must be cut short. You seem to agree that now. I missed the point entirely that your countdown calculations were not from the bible, so I apologise for that.
 

Cristo

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But the story doesn't end there either. Going back further in the past, 121 years before, we get to September 1792. A time of great changes and upheaval as France, the superpower of that time, was in the middle of its revolution. To symbolize that a new world had begun, a new revolutionary calendar was introduced. The monarchy was abolished on September 21, and the next day, September 22, 1792 (the day of the equinox that year) became the first day of the new calendar:
Thank you for taking the time to write and research your ideas, and to explain them to us to ponder over. I enjoyed it very much, especially when I saw that you went back as far as the French Revolution, which I feel is the starting point in modern history that so much of our times is founded upon. The same ideology that created the bloodiest revolutions in French and Russian history, is the very same ideology that is soon to cause the collapse of the United States, just as it caused the collapse of those two prior nations before us, and it's NOT the British freaking empire, but the Satanic element within it that infiltrates into whatever it needs to in order to accomplish that which it has set out to do. Conquer the WORLD!!!

I'm sure your thesis has merit in it for the occult is rife with patterns, symbols, and numerology. Because the elite do not worship Jehovah, they must look elsewhere for the answers to the cosmos and life itself. Satan has constructed everything they need to look for to find the answers they seek within those patterns, symbols, and numerology. Of course the answers they find are not truth, but to them they are everything because that's all they have. Freemasonry and everything that it entails is founded on these things of the occult, and Satanic ideology.

Anyways, just wanted to say thanks for your efforts and the courage to post your thoughts. Well done...
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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Well, as my husband and I witnessed this week “live in our living room” it seems that JWs aren’t that familiar with the scriptures. Just the regular ones that you hear repeated over and over again at the meetings. And even then they don’t know the meaning of them. When you state something that WT doesn’t support they cry out “Jehovah would never allow that” without even giving it a moment’s thought. Their faith is not based on facts or knowledge, it’s based on feelings. And their responses are one-liners the GB told them, not well thought out answers.

Look at the articles on jw.org, it’s all about the woke problems of the world. Not the actual problems the world is facing and certainly nothing to do with the point in time the Bible tells us where we are.

The wild beast, the false prophets or the second coming of Christ couldn’t be further from their minds cause WT has deluded them that it has already taken place.

They are waiting for the angels to wrap their arms around them to protect them from the “baddies” at Armageddon. It’s really sad.
That is very a very astute observation: “Their faith is not based on facts or knowledge, it’s based on feelings.“ Essentially, it is a form of propaganda, where people are made to feel safe, that someone is in charge and doing all the work for you, and all you need to do is sit back and wait. They assume a greater knowledge, thus control, and punish any alternative answer. The only people more afraid of change than their subjects, are the ones exerting control. It takes courage to question, but being denied insight, few do and thus get comfortable in accepting what they need not worry about.
 

Truth_Seeker

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The way I see things, a lot of people that belong to the Watchtower are there primarily there for their salvation. They do not have the mindset Daniel's friends had:
"If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to rescue us from the furnace of blazing fire; and He will rescue us from your hand, O king. But even if He does not, let it be known to you, O king, that we are not going to serve your gods nor worship the golden statue that you have set up.”
Daniel 3:17‭-‬18. Serving Jehovah and Jesus it's about being on their side no matter what. If someone conditions their choice on their salvation they are in the wrong. That's why so many of them fell into this trap. People in other religions are captive to the organisations they belong to because they look primarily to their salvation, not at the vindication and the glory of God's name as Jesus did, and set an example for us.
The temple class have been credited righteousness so they can have a relationship with Jesus so they represent God's organisation on earth as long as they speak the truth.
Other sheep can be spared from death in Armageddon only if they flee to the city of refuge namely Jehovah organisation. As long as people identify Watchtower with God's organisation, and they can't see that heavenly Jerusalem is His organisation, they will follow Watchtower no matter what because they don't want to lose their salvation and they will accept everything.

Let them alone: they are blind guides. And if the blind guide the blind, both shall fall into a pit.
Matthew 15:14
 

Sunshower

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That is very a very astute observation: “Their faith is not based on facts or knowledge, it’s based on feelings.“ Essentially, it is a form of propaganda, where people are made to feel safe, that someone is in charge and doing all the work for you, and all you need to do is sit back and wait. They assume a greater knowledge, thus control, and punish any alternative answer. The only people more afraid of change than their subjects, are the ones exerting control. It takes courage to question, but being denied insight, few do and thus get comfortable in accepting what they need not worry about.
At first I was baffled by the fact that they know so little, but then I thought of my mother who’s been “in the truth” for over 40 years. Every week she faithfully does her homework but if we tell her anything from the Bible she looks at us like it’s the first time she’s heard it. And that’s not just now we’ve found the e-watchman site, it was before that but I never thought much of it.
It’s really, really sad that they just go through the motion and never understand the deeper meaning. My husband has suggested things that could happen, like a meteorite impact and my mother too would respond with: “Jehovah would never allow that.” When asked why not, she would answer that it would kill too many people. It’s because THEY don’t want it to happen, they project their feeling unto what Jehovah will and won’t allow.
I understand that it’s difficult because you don’t want people to die, but what do these folks expect to happen at Armageddon, I wonder? Or is it just the prospect of THEM losing their lives that worries them? If so, where is their faith in the God of resurrection?
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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At first I was baffled by the fact that they know so little, but then I thought of my mother who’s been “in the truth” for over 40 years. Every week she faithfully does her homework but if we tell her anything from the Bible she looks at us like it’s the first time she’s heard it. And that’s not just now we’ve found the e-watchman site, it was before that but I never thought much of it.
It’s really, really sad that they just go through the motion and never understand the deeper meaning. My husband has suggested things that could happen, like a meteorite impact and my mother too would respond with: “Jehovah would never allow that.” When asked why not, she would answer that it would kill too many people. It’s because THEY don’t want it to happen, they project their feeling unto what Jehovah will and won’t allow.
I understand that it’s difficult because you don’t want people to die, but what do these folks expect to happen at Armageddon, I wonder? Or is it just the prospect of THEM losing their lives that worries them? If so, where is their faith in the God of resurrection?
I can only judge by my own experience and those of the congregation where I attended. It’s just one long grim story. Certainly by the time I left boarding school all I wanted to do was find somewhere to hide and when I found watchtower, the prospect of the bible being real was just too good to be true. I joined to be able to live in peace, or in other words, for the reward. That appeared to be true of everyone, insofar as one could determine without being too judgemental, but in analysis, I never saw anything to make me think differently. No one ever uttered a word out of line, other than to confirm what watchtower said - and any gem of truth that fell from any one’s mouth, was really of what was written and in agreement with watchtower. No insight into prophesy.

Because all that was known of the bible in watchtower terms, was just the basic Christian faith (and which I knew already from school), the attributes of the spirit were never really discussed and what was significant in retrospect, about our congregation was the lack of those attributes. Of course, we all have a measure of these attributes, but the display of such in the congregation was no less outside of it, than in. Thus, the only divergence between the public and us, was the heavenly hope for some, and the earthly hope for others, and of course, that the public were evil, and we were good. What nonsense. So essentially, what you note about their dilatory attitude toward truth in its true sense, is barely enough to give them insight. There is no discernible insight to the attributes, that gives meaning to the Word. The attributes of Jehovah in the average person on the street is being whittled away - no one dare criticise morals, make comment on habits of ethnicity, it is practically an imprisonable offence in the USA to critique the need for guns, and every sexual perversion has become a sacred right that has to be welcomed into the community without comment. And now of course, watchtower has added “little opposers of Jehovah” to the mix as well as siding with the UN over the health of Jehovah‘s people. What hope for the witnesses?

What is on the side of witnesses, is the principles if not the insight into the attributes of Jehovah. I think that will save a lot of the brethren. That is not to say of course that we have any edge - that much depends on faith but at least discussion about the attributes that gives the meaning to life and faith can be freely discussed without being taken to task in ,”the back room” (usually). It is not a reward, but a way of life. I think that is where watchtower fails Jehovah’s people. ”without love, it is nothing…”. How can we have love without justice? And where is watchtower where it comes to being just? Selling halls, abused children, stealing what is Jehovah’s neglecting the flock….etc etc.
 

BARNABY THE DOG.

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The way I see things, a lot of people that belong to the Watchtower are there primarily there for their salvation. They do not have the mindset Daniel's friends had:
"If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to rescue us from the furnace of blazing fire; and He will rescue us from your hand, O king. But even if He does not, let it be known to you, O king, that we are not going to serve your gods nor worship the golden statue that you have set up.”
Daniel 3:17‭-‬18. Serving Jehovah and Jesus it's about being on their side no matter what. If someone conditions their choice on their salvation they are in the wrong. That's why so many of them fell into this trap. People in other religions are captive to the organisations they belong to because they look primarily to their salvation, not at the vindication and the glory of God's name as Jesus did, and set an example for us.
The temple class have been credited righteousness so they can have a relationship with Jesus so they represent God's organisation on earth as long as they speak the truth.
Other sheep can be spared from death in Armageddon only if they flee to the city of refuge namely Jehovah organisation. As long as people identify Watchtower with God's organisation, and they can't see that heavenly Jerusalem is His organisation, they will follow Watchtower no matter what because they don't want to lose their salvation and they will accept everything.

Let them alone: they are blind guides. And if the blind guide the blind, both shall fall into a pit.
Matthew 15:14
Absolutely!
 
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